43 minutes ago, Eaglesfandan said:

Here in WA:

Under the restrictions, indoor social gatherings with people from outside the home are prohibited, unless participants quarantine for 14 days prior, or quarantine for seven days before the gathering and receive a negative Covid-19 test result no more than 48 hours prior. Outdoor gatherings will be limited to five people.

 

 

Directives like these are a waste of time since it is impossible top enforce

7 hours ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Directives like these are a waste of time since it is impossible top enforce

Disagree. I think it gives reasonable and considerate humans some sort of guidance as to how to behave

See, some people see the restrictions put in place and think, that's reasonable expectation to curb the spread of virus. It might be hard, but I'll try. Others think, well since they can't enforce it, I'm not going to follow it and I'll do what I want anyway. People who refuse to heed caution, won't stay away from others, who won't wear facemasks, because they feel it's unenforceable and against their "rights", is why we can't get a handle on the coronavirus spike.

Sheetz has an announcement they play in the store to wear masks.  They have signs on the doors.  They even have free masks at the entrance.  But only about 50% of people are wearing them in the store whenever I’m at one.  We’re doomed.

19 minutes ago, paco said:

 

This is what I try explaining when my MIL says she wants to keep Christmas as normal as possible this year.  The most frustrating part is that she has 3 daughters who are all healthcare professionals (one being my wife) and they all agree with her and want to gather. My SIL wouldn't send her kids around their neighborhood for Halloween because it was "too risky" but going to the in-laws for Christmas dinner/gifts and hitting up church is perfectly cool. It's the picking and choosing that drives me nuts, especially with people that should know better.

I think I've seen one person not wear a mask in a store.  It was in the Giant and I overheard the employees saying it's not worth it to get into the inevitable argument since he was in line and leaving.  I've seen people wear them inappropriately but I haven't seen any widespread refusal to have them on at all anywhere I've gone.  

At the school I work for, we've had 2 positive cases, both students.  And they both picked it up from their outside athletic club.  We offer both in school and virtual options.  Currently trying to figure out how to enforce students who attend team sports outside of the school to be restricted to virtual only learning.  I'm also a little nervous to see how the Thanksgiving holiday causes spikes within the school community.  As long as we are all here a majority of the time, we are kind of in a bubble that has kept infection rates low and our contact tracing and measures enforced for risk seem to be working.. but once everyone is off for a week, traveling, or having outside family come in, who knows what will happen.  I'm going to switch to working from home again I think. 

16 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

Sheetz has an announcement they play in the store to wear masks.  They have signs on the doors.  They even have free masks at the entrance.  But only about 50% of people are wearing them in the store whenever I’m at one.  We’re doomed.

I was at walmart the other day and there was definitely more people without masks then with them. 

29 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

Sheetz has an announcement they play in the store to wear masks.  They have signs on the doors.  They even have free masks at the entrance.  But only about 50% of people are wearing them in the store whenever I’m at one.  We’re doomed.

I see that at a lot of stores - none of the employees want to say anything and cause conflict.  I was at Walmart a few weeks ago and there was a lady at the door reminding everyone to wear a mask.  A group of teens walked past her without them on and completely ignored her - and that was where it ended.

The worst people I encountered were at the shore over the summer. About 2/3 of people were following the rules, wearing facemasks, staying distanced. But people were congregated around the food stands, pulling their masks down to eat. About 1/3 were not wearing masks, smoking on the boardwalk. Both are prohibited but not strongly enforced.

Locally: There was a guy who went into 7-11, pulled his t-shirt up over his nose to use as a face cover.   Another time, somebody walked into the store who clearly forgot to bring a mask. He feigned like he didn't notice, but employees saw it right away and refused to serve him. He left. I do see lots of people who choose poor face coverings, like scarfs, or wear masks incorrectly: their noses hanging out, or pull them down inside the store when they think nobody is looking.

Several people I know tested positive within the last week. It feels like this spike is going to be much worse than before.

The only time I've ever seen a store employee refuse to let someone in was at Sherwin Williams - dude told them to put on masks (the store offered them) and they refused because of a medical condition.  He politely told them they can order online then and get curbside pickup, and made them leave.  

39 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

Sheetz has an announcement they play in the store to wear masks.  They have signs on the doors.  They even have free masks at the entrance.  But only about 50% of people are wearing them in the store whenever I’m at one.  We’re doomed.

 

29 minutes ago, binkybink77 said:

I think I've seen one person not wear a mask in a store.  It was in the Giant and I overheard the employees saying it's not worth it to get into the inevitable argument since he was in line and leaving.  I've seen people wear them inappropriately but I haven't seen any widespread refusal to have them on at all anywhere I've gone.  

At the school I work for, we've had 2 positive cases, both students.  And they both picked it up from their outside athletic club.  We offer both in school and virtual options.  Currently trying to figure out how to enforce students who attend team sports outside of the school to be restricted to virtual only learning.  I'm also a little nervous to see how the Thanksgiving holiday causes spikes within the school community.  As long as we are all here a majority of the time, we are kind of in a bubble that has kept infection rates low and our contact tracing and measures enforced for risk seem to be working.. but once everyone is off for a week, traveling, or having outside family come in, who knows what will happen.  I'm going to switch to working from home again I think. 

I was about to say the same thing.  I've seen some chin diapers but everyone I've seen in public has been good about them.

12 minutes ago, toolg said:

The worst people I encountered were at the shore over the summer. About 2/3 of people were following the rules, wearing facemasks, staying distanced. But people were congregated around the food stands, pulling their masks down to eat. About 1/3 were not wearing masks, smoking on the boardwalk. Both are prohibited but not strongly enforced.

Locally: There was a guy who went into 7-11, pulled his t-shirt up over his nose to use as a face cover.   Another time, somebody walked into the store who clearly forgot to bring a mask. He feigned like he didn't notice, but employees saw it right away and refused to serve him. He left. I do see lots of people who choose poor face coverings, like scarfs, or wear masks incorrectly: their noses hanging out, or pull them down inside the store when they think nobody is looking.

Several people I know tested positive within the last week. It feels like this spike is going to be much worse than before.

It undoubtedly will be, primarily because the virus started with zero cases in Feb/March and then had to infect pockets of regions over the first month or two. So from an active case standpoint, it was still trying to gain a foothold in most of the country. But now it is fully entrenched, after having an eight month head start, so the number of cases, and thus the risk to all of us, will be much higher this time around. And it's not even about political statements anymore, I'm seeing neighbors get infected who should definitely know better, and I presume are just being reckless for reasons other than "muh freedumz".

3 minutes ago, paco said:

 

I was about to say the same thing.  I've seen some chin diapers but everyone I've seen in public has been good about them.

Where do the rest of these hooligans live that their neighbors are such goons  

I think I've seen one person not wear a mask indoors since the mask thing started months ago. In our area at least compliance is pretty high.

I did see a woman go full Karen on a hostess at a restaurant. They were at capacity indoors, and the woman was complaining that there was plenty of empty tables and that this was "communism"  

 

 

 

I had a fun time in Lowes this summer.  Had some brutal Kale gas and spent half the trip ripping ass near people with their nose out of the mask. Because apparently I'm still a petty child. 

But I've only seen a small number of people without masks in public. Distancing on the other hand has been much less consistent. Even with lines clearly marked. 

Vaccine race update: 

Now that we've gotten preliminary insight into the Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna trial data, the next ones we should be getting some word on soon come from Johnson & Johnson and AstraZeneca, both of which are viral vectors using variants of an adenovirus. Also, both of them had to halt their phase 3 trials due to adverse reactions in some patients, but have since resumed them. J&J's Ad26-SARS-COV2 candidate resumed earlier and might have a slight lead on AZ's ChAd-Ox1.

After those two, we should be getting word on Novavax's protein subunit Nvx-COV2373 which is maybe the most promising of any so far, and could provide even better efficacy than the already awesome results we've been told about from Pfizer and Moderna. They've got a phase 3 trial in Europe that should be wrapping up in the next couple months so by then we should have 5 candidates having completed phase 3 trials with a good idea of how far they can go to putting a sizeable dent into this ongoing nightmare.

Imagine if all these companies cared more about people and less about who can profit the most, and pooled their research and results together!

1 hour ago, Dawkins 20 said:

 

This is what I try explaining when my MIL says she wants to keep Christmas as normal as possible this year.  The most frustrating part is that she has 3 daughters who are all healthcare professionals (one being my wife) and they all agree with her and want to gather. My SIL wouldn't send her kids around their neighborhood for Halloween because it was "too risky" but going to the in-laws for Christmas dinner/gifts and hitting up church is perfectly cool. It's the picking and choosing that drives me nuts, especially with people that should know better.

I agree, the selective relaxation is frustrating. My mom is generally extremely careful and doesn't go anywhere or do much of anything. When I was visiting her recently, her sister stopped by with a couple of her close friends. The friends all wore masks while they were there, but my aunt didn't and I seriously doubt that she wears a mask around them when at her home. And those people specifically are very careful as well (the friend is a retired doctor and thought she had it at the initial peak but ended up being negative when she was finally able to get tested), but the picking and choosing that just doesn't make sense is frustrating. My mom even comments about how we always wear masks before we enter her house when my wife is a teacher...

1 hour ago, binkybink77 said:

I think I've seen one person not wear a mask in a store.  It was in the Giant and I overheard the employees saying it's not worth it to get into the inevitable argument since he was in line and leaving.  I've seen people wear them inappropriately but I haven't seen any widespread refusal to have them on at all anywhere I've gone.  

At the school I work for, we've had 2 positive cases, both students.  And they both picked it up from their outside athletic club.  We offer both in school and virtual options.  Currently trying to figure out how to enforce students who attend team sports outside of the school to be restricted to virtual only learning.  I'm also a little nervous to see how the Thanksgiving holiday causes spikes within the school community.  As long as we are all here a majority of the time, we are kind of in a bubble that has kept infection rates low and our contact tracing and measures enforced for risk seem to be working.. but once everyone is off for a week, traveling, or having outside family come in, who knows what will happen.  I'm going to switch to working from home again I think. 

Whenever I go into a store I typically see 1 or 2 people not wearing masks each time. Lowes and Home Depot are the worst. Grocery stores are generally pretty good. 

1 minute ago, mikemack8 said:

Imagine if all these companies cared more about people and less about who can profit the most, and pooled their research and results together!

They're already doing that, dingus. Read more, assume less.

Just now, we_gotta_believe said:

They're already doing that, dingus. Read more, assume less.

Where's the fun in that?

27 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

I had a fun time in Lowes this summer.  Had some brutal Kale gas and spent half the trip ripping ass near people with their nose out of the mask. Because apparently I'm still a petty child. 

But I've only seen a small number of people without masks in public. Distancing on the other hand has been much less consistent. Even with lines clearly marked. 

So you get close to people not wearing masks to fart on them.  Got it

I've only seen one or two anti-maskers in my travels around town.  I've been staying away from Walmart, it's always crowded.  I go to the drug store.  Much less crowded.  They may have things that the grocery store is out of too.  Grocery shopping I go as early as possible. Get in and get out.  Once I get my Thanksgiving stuff I shouldn't have a need to go back anytime soon.

I always pack up my desk every night in the event I don't feel good, or we are asked to stay home. My temperature this morning was 94.8.  WTH?  Something is wrong with that damn thing!

Anyway, I can easily keep doing these things for another 6 months.

3 minutes ago, SNOORDA said:

So you get close to people not wearing masks to fart on them.  Got it

Never got within 12 feet. 1 way aisles makes it easy to predict where people are going. Don't be pissy.