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Just now, Toastrel said:

That's how we felt after Peter Luger, a few years ago.

Another place that is good, but not nearly as good as the hype.

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17 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

I am  better than people like you. It is obvious to anyone.

 

Yep, better at denying science and not giving a damn about your fellow American. You've got me beat there, hands down.

1 minute ago, binkybink77 said:

Ohh my gosh... yeah that's a little too rigid on your brother's part and it's hard to stick to strict planning with multiple people.  I've never had In 'N Out and I've heard it's both awesome and overrated.. I want to try it just to see what the hype is, even though I don't eat a lot of fast food anymore.

I guess I'm kind of like your bro in that I like to plan things when I travel.. I always like to see or experience the best of a few things... but I'm also extremely spontaneous which actually drives paco nuts.  Oversleeping is common while on vacation.  paco and I stayed up almost all night in Rome one evening because we were enjoying the Grappa a little TOO much.  We were at the Waldorf and they have those iron clad electronic shutters that you can put down that shut out ALL light.  We woke up dazed and still drunk the next morning and I went into full panic mode because we missed our train to Venice - a first class with wine and meal experience I had all planned out.  Instead we were stuck with the Plebes in coach and handed one warm soda for the whole ride.  I was DYING but determined to stay awake and enjoy the Italian countryside.  paco was out and snoring the entire time. I'm sure our seat mates were impressed.  

In 'N Out is impossible to overrate. Those who claim it is overrated are butthurt New Yorkers trying to claim Shake Shack is better. 

2 minutes ago, paco said:

Ok schmoopie, its settled.  We go out to Napa, we are doing In N out in lieu of French Laundry.

Animal Style Fries > French Laundry

2 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

In 'N Out is impossible to overrate. Those who claim it is overrated are butthurt New Yorkers trying to claim Shake Shack is better. 

...their fries are kinda bad and only tolerable when drowned in meat sauce/cheese :ph34r:

8 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

In 'N Out is impossible to overrate. Those who claim it is overrated are butthurt New Yorkers trying to claim Shake Shack is better. 

It's over rated

Ugh you guys... fries should never be topped.  Cheese is fine if  you DIP it.  Same with ketchup.  Otherwise you turn delicious, golden, crispy on the outside fries into a hot mess :nonono:  I'm irish.. don't argue the rules of the potato with me. Tator tots btw can be topped.  They are inherently less crispy and the shape lends them to fork eating.  

Just now, binkybink77 said:

Ugh you guys... fries should never be topped.  Cheese is fine if  you DIP it.  Same with ketchup.  Otherwise you turn delicious, golden, crispy on the outside fries into a hot mess :nonono:  I'm irish.. don't argue the rules of the potato with me. Tator tots btw can be topped.  They are inherently less crispy and the shape lends them to fork eating.  

In and Out fries need to be topped with something.  Otherwise, they taste like cardboard.

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Just now, VanHammersly said:

In and Out fries need to be topped with something.  Otherwise, they taste like cardboard.

Then it's not a good fry in which case it's not worth eating.  Salt is the only thing a fry really NEEDS. 

12 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

In 'N Out is impossible to overrate. Those who claim it is overrated are butthurt New Yorkers trying to claim Shake Shack is better. 

Not a New Yorker, but I've had both and it's a close call. More of a 1A and 1B type of deal, but I'll give In N Out the slight nod since they do more with less (double double is like $4 compared to like $8 for a shack burger?)

When it comes to the fries and shakes though, it's Shake Shake hands down. In N Out can't compete there.

Just now, binkybink77 said:

Then it's not a good fry in which case it's not worth eating.  Salt is the only thing a fry really NEEDS. 

No, In and Out's fries are awful.  But their burgers are amazing.  Which is why they're both underrated and overrated.

1 minute ago, VanHammersly said:

No, In and Out's fries are awful.  But their burgers are amazing.  Which is why they're both underrated and overrated.

^this

Honestly, McDonald's has the best fries in the world.  Fight me.

3 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

Honestly, McDonald's has the best fries in the world.  Fight me.

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Shake Shack is good but way overpriced. One time I ordered some sort of ice cream dessert and it came out completely melted like soup I guess because they were busy. I did later email customer service and they gave me a free $20 voucher so I do respect them for that.

4 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

Honestly, McDonald's has the best fries in the world.  Fight me.

Why? You are already hampered by thinking McDonald's is the best at anything.

Doesn't seem fair to add to your misery.

Just now, BirdsFanBill said:

Shake Shack is good but way overpriced. One time I ordered some sort of ice cream dessert and it came out completely melted like soup I guess because they were busy. I did later email customer service and they gave me a free $20 voucher so I do respect them for that.

Never understood the cult of Shake Shack. And I'm in NYC, the friggin epicenter of it. A good burger, for sure...but not worth the hype or the price tag. 

Just now, BirdsFanBill said:

Shake Shack is good but way overpriced. One time I ordered some sort of ice cream dessert and it came out completely melted like soup I guess because they were busy. I did later email customer service and they gave me a free $20 voucher so I do respect them for that.

Concrete mixer made with frozen custard? Those are amazing. We usually got one of those and also a shake to share. When it comes to the overall meal, Shake Shack wins. When it comes to just the burgers, In N Out by a nose.

Shake Shack burgers are good. So are the custard shakes. I don't dig the crinkle cut fries. Fresh cut fries, like Five Guys, is where it's at.

2 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

Why? You are already hampered by thinking McDonald's is the best at anything.

Doesn't seem fair to add to your misery.

:lol:

They're awesome.  Obviously, everything else there is dog sheet, but their fries are the best.  Do they inject them with beef juice?  I don't know, the cow's not sacred to me, so I'm all for it.  Whatever they're doing, it's working.

1 minute ago, Lloyd said:

Never understood the cult of Shake Shack. And I'm in NYC, the friggin epicenter of it. A good burger, for sure...but not worth the hype or the price tag. 

My first time ever was at the Madison Square park location, which they claim was the OG shack. It was freakin awesome, I don't know how you can say it's overhyped. 

1 minute ago, toolg said:

Shake Shack burgers are good. So are the custard shakes. I don't dig the crinkle cut fries. Fresh cut fries, like Five Guys, is where it's at.

Agree, Five Guys has the best fries of the 3, but they're a distant third when it comes to the burgers. And their shakes suck ass.

1 minute ago, VanHammersly said:

:lol:

They're awesome.  Obviously, everything else there is dog sheet, but their fries are the best.  Do they inject them with beef juice?  I don't know, the cow's not sacred to me, so I'm all for it.  Whatever they're doing, it's working.

They are very good - for four minutes. After that they turn to cardboard shite

I also enjoy Freddys Steakburgers and their shoestring fries. 

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