43 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

yeah...that attitude is already running rampant. i see a lot of fb posts saying this is all about the gubbament controlling us & crap like that. 

It is truly mind boggling. Fatties can still get delivery or curb side pick up, Netflix/Hulu have enough shows and movies to last years, grocery stores are still open. 

Oh no, you can't waste 64 dollars at the movie theater watching a **** movie. I'm so sorry 

15 minutes ago, DMMVP said:

What data points to that? NYC is a population dense city incomparable to any other state.

 

 

C'mon man, spend a couple seconds on critical thinking first.  Nobody wants to be the next Milan or Tehran either.

1 minute ago, dawkins4prez said:

C'mon man, spend a couple seconds on critical thinking first.  Nobody wants to be the next Milan or Tehran either.

It's just highly unlikely.

Politicians need to lead a charge one way or another:

1 - if a vaccine is likely in the near future, we hunker down until available. It's just unlikely with the previous quickest vaccine being 3 years I believe.

2 - acknowledge to folks we can't stop it with lockdowns (half a** ones at that) and that we expect more cases and deaths as we work to re-open. As tragic as that is.

Better to get people to buy-in like they did in the beginning.

1 minute ago, DMMVP said:

It's just highly unlikely.

Politicians need to lead a charge one way or another:

1 - if a vaccine is likely in the near future, we hunker down until available. It's just unlikely with the previous quickest vaccine being 3 years I believe.

2 - acknowledge to folks we can't stop it with lockdowns (half a** ones at that) and that we expect more cases and deaths as we work to re-open. As tragic as that is.

Better to get people to buy-in like they did in the beginning.

Hey don't worry.  There absolutely will be a 2nd wave and it is highly unlikely the US goes back into shutdown when it comes.  So the army of armchair Monday morning Qb's will have their day and we will get a very good idea of what we avoided in the 1st wave.

4 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

Hey don't worry.  There absolutely will be a 2nd wave and it is highly unlikely the US goes back into shutdown when it comes.  So the army of armchair Monday morning Qb's will have their day and we will get a very good idea of what we avoided in the 1st wave.

Except nothing seems to be avoidable, only delayed. Which was the basis of the lockdown.

1 hour ago, Dave Moss said:

My gym is supposed to reopen May 24th.  They didn’t bill us this month (but we paid for April when they were closed the whole month).

Where is this?

1 hour ago, VanHammersly said:

No one's trying to hurt Trump in the upcoming election.  Trump's already done and has been for a while now.

I would agree he’s done but I still think the dems are using this to further their own agendas.

1 hour ago, probably said:

Did all those other countries in Europe and Asia go on extreme lock downs to use against Trump's election too? 

Can’t compare.  Politics are much different in those countries.  

1 hour ago, dawkins4prez said:

No it's not.  It's really not.  Governors are scared shiteless of being the next New York, as they should be.

Oh you mean they don’t want 67% of their Covid cases coming from people who are SITTING AT HOME?  

12 minutes ago, DBW said:

Where is this?

Houston, TX

58 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

It is truly mind boggling. Fatties can still get delivery or curb side pick up, Netflix/Hulu have enough shows and movies to last years, grocery stores are still open. 

Oh no, you can't waste 64 dollars at the movie theater watching a **** movie. I'm so sorry 

I think it's more about the small business owners who are suffering under this. 

Which I get is a problem, and I do think we could be more aggressive here. 

But you can't just ignore NH deaths because they're inconvenient.

21 minutes ago, DBW said:

I would agree he’s done but I still think the dems are using this to further their own agendas.

You think state governor's agenda is advanced by having people out of work/sitting in their homes/not spending money and improving their state's economy?

Not everything's about Trump, despite what he thinks.  State Governor's are just trying to keep their heads above water/balance saving lives and improving the economy.

12 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

Hey don't worry.  There absolutely will be a 2nd wave and it is highly unlikely the US goes back into shutdown when it comes.  So the army of armchair Monday morning Qb's will have their day and we will get a very good idea of what we avoided in the 1st wave.

A second wave may or may not be as bad TBH.  Lots of factors went into the second wave in 1918 being as devastating as it was and only one of which was a premature relaxation of the regulations. It could be, but we just don't know.  You're correct though in that a second shutdown would be very difficult to pull off.

Just now, DBW said:

 Oh you mean they don’t want 67% of their Covid cases coming from people who are SITTING AT HOME?  

Oh FFS this nonsense again. 

1)  That number was from a self reported survey of people who claimed they mostly stayed at home. 

2) You're sampling from a population in NYC that is almost entirely and very strictly shut down, so no sheet most people either fall into that category or are claiming they do. If you're trying to generalize this to a non-lockdown population that is a massive case of selection bias.

3) 67% of hospital cases in NY being people "mostly" staying at home should terrify people.  For all the pros/cons lockdown absolutely undeniably reduces spread in the short term.  That's clear if you look at Sweden vs the rest of Scandinavia.  The fact that this is virulent enough to still hit that many people who claim to mostly be staying at home, while still flirting with overwhelming the hospital systems of the area is possibly the greatest "pro lockdown extension" argument you could make.

There are plenty of reasonable arguments to make against extending lockdowns man.  You don't need to keep throwing out weak or disingenuous numbers to make your point.  It just makes you look silly.

Face recognition on the Iphone seemed a lot cooler before Corona

LMAO what a clown world. Then everyone at the press conference started clapping. @DEagle7

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WASHINGTON, May 11 (Reuters) - The White House has directed staff working in the West Wing, where the daily operations of President Donald Trump's administration are carried out, to wear masks at all times in the building, except when they are at their own desks, a senior administration official confirmed on Monday.

better really, really, really f'n late than never.   

7 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

Face recognition on the Iphone seemed a lot cooler before Corona

I got a google phone upgrde like a month before this sheet started that went from fingerprint recognition to face recognition.  Peak 1st world problems.

9 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

I got a google phone upgrde like a month before this sheet started that went from fingerprint recognition to face recognition.  Peak 1st world problems.

just point your phone at your arse...it probably won't know the difference. 

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

    

 

1 hour ago, DBW said:

 

Can’t compare.  Politics are much different in those countries.  

 

Exactly, despite political and cultural differences countries all around the world are having lengthy shutdowns just like us. Many of theirs are even longer and more rigid. So yeah, we aren't doing it to oust Trump. He already buried himself when it comes to covid-19 anyway.

32 minutes ago, Kz! said:

LMAO what a clown world. Then everyone at the press conference started clapping. @DEagle7

 

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Classic Kz.

Different strains of the virus. Strain in New York came through Europe. Strain in CA came directly from China. 

4 hours ago, DBW said:

The question is, how do we go back to normal life and protect those high risk communities at the same time?   Whether we open today or two months from now, are those communities at any less risk?  What have we really done with the 2 months of lockdown that has protected any of them?  They’re still getting sick and still firing at an alarming rate compared to the younger, healthier people obviously.  We haven’t and won’t eradicate the virus by locking down for 2 more or even 6 more months.  You could argue that by staying locked down we don’t run the risk of asymptomatically carrying the virus to our elders in those homes and you’d be right but I would argue that in another 6 months, you run the same risk of that versus today.  that’s why We need to be more conscious of our actions and our decisions to go into those places and protocols should be in place to prevent this or any other disease from entering those facilities.  But the fact is, those places have never been great in terms of keeping illness out.  Look at any given flu season (not comparing covid to flu) and you see how easily that gets in and runs wild, killing many.  So yeah this is worse if it gets in but again, another 6 months of isolation isn’t going to eradicate covid.  It’s here to stay.  

I still worry about some of my family that's in those communities

32 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

I got a google phone upgrde like a month before this sheet started that went from fingerprint recognition to face recognition.  Peak 1st world problems.

I still have the iphone 6s plus lol

Just now, probably said:

 

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Classic Kz.

Different strains of the virus. Strain in New York came through Europe. Strain in CA came directly from China. 

When did this info come out? They're saying there's 2 different types going around?

Just now, Mike030270 said:

When did this info come out? They're saying there's 2 different types going around?

I don't know exactly how it works but I did read last week there are multiple strains of the same virus and that's how they track back where they came from. 

4 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

When did this info come out? They're saying there's 2 different types going around?

The New York outbreak was traced back to Italian tourists. It's stupid to try to call it European or Chinese. It's covid-19 regardless of where the carrier came from. This was probably Cuomo trying to needle Trump. 

8 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I still worry about some of my family that's in those communities

I still have the iphone 6s plus lol

I don’t blame you and I would worry about them even when this goes away.  Not all nursing homes are equal.  Under funded, under staffed, over populated, neglected and many of the nurses at these places aren’t qualified or even certified to be doing some of the things they do.  I will never let my kids put me in a place like that.  I’ll die at home on my own bed thanks.