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8 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Wow, PA officials pulled their own family from nursing homes while forcing others to accept rona patients. These people are insidious. 

Yep - and Wolf is threatening to pull funding from certain counties if they don't do his bidding.  And these same people call Trump a dictator....

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6 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

Yep - and Wolf is threatening to pull funding from certain counties if they don't do his bidding.  And these same people call Trump a dictator....

You can have two dictators. More even. A Fed one, a State one, a County one. . . .

17 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

Yep - and Wolf is threatening to pull funding from certain counties if they don't do his bidding.  And these same people call Trump a dictator....

like I said before about this situation, say what you want about trump with the crisis, but there are failures and abuses at all levels of government.

3 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

like I said before about tis situation, say what you want about trump with this crisis, but there are failures and abuses at all levels of government.

Yep - they all have their own agenda and are using the guise of public health and safety as a means to push it

Stunninngly insidious. They literally want dangerous criminals freed. I mean, they're beyond parody at this point. Who could possibly support these literal demons?

37 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Wow, PA officials pulled their own family from nursing homes while forcing others to accept rona patients. These people are insidious. 

Accusations from the alt right without a shred of evidence. Wolf derangement syndrome level 1. 

1 minute ago, Kz! said:

Stunninngly insidious. They literally want dangerous criminals freed. I mean, they're beyond parody at this point. Who could possibly support these literal demons?

Against weed and diversity. Peak libertarianism here. 

Just now, Gannan said:

Against weed and diversity. Peak libertarianism here. 

I was referencing the segment on flooding the streets with hardened criminals, but, no, I don't think Tucker is a libertarian.

7 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Stunninngly insidious. They literally want dangerous criminals freed. I mean, they're beyond parody at this point. Who could possibly support these literal demons?

Calling out easing weed restrictions?  Tucker Carlson's a narc. 

Just now, Kz! said:

I was referencing the segment on flooding the streets with hardened criminals, but, no, I don't think Tucker is a libertarian.

Well once they started letting people like Flynn and Blagojevich out of prison, it opened the flood gates.

8 minutes ago, Gannan said:

Accusations from the alt right without a shred of evidence. Wolf derangement syndrome level 1. 

this claim aside, you think wolf is doing a good job with the crisis ?

6 minutes ago, Kz! said:

I was referencing the segment on flooding the streets with hardened criminals, but, no, I don't think Tucker is a libertarian.

The most incarcerated country in the world can stand to free a pretty good section of it's 2million plus prisoners.  No other country in the world needs that many prisoners, why do we?  We have more incarcerated people than China.  We have a higher rate of incarceration than Russia.  Land of the Free my hairy arse until that gets resolved.  We still have 100's of thousands of jailed citizens for possessing weed for F's sake.  The only good thing Trump has done in 3+ years was get Kim Kardishian and Kanye West to help him on a prison bill.

6 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

this claim aside, you think wolf is doing a good job with the crisis ?

Better than Mississippi, not as good as New Zealand.

7 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

this claim aside, you think wolf is doing a good job with the crisis ?

Yes. He's following the guidelines from the CDC which is what I would do. 

3 minutes ago, Gannan said:

Yes. He's following the guidelines from the CDC which is what I would do. 

I agree on that part, but I think he's failing on in how he's dealing with the individual counties and townships. it's a crap show no matter who would've been in charge. I just think overall everyone has to know from this that we are not prepared for this, or something even worse.

on that claim, im not surprise something like this is coming out considering the timing of the story. I hope its not true.

1 minute ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

I agree on that part, but I think he's failing on in how he's dealing with the individual counties and townships. it's a crap show no matter who would've been in charge. I just think overall everyone has to know from this that we are not prepared for this, or something even worse.

on that claim, im not surprise something like this is coming out considering the timing of the story. I hope its not true.

The counties were openly defying the order and endangering public health. If he lets that slide then it’s anarchy. I think we can either let our actions be dictated by science or emotion. I’m glad wolf is choosing the former over the latter. 

4 minutes ago, Gannan said:

The counties were openly defying the order and endangering public health. If he lets that slide then it’s anarchy. I think we can either let our actions be dictated by science or emotion. I’m glad wolf is choosing the former over the latter. 

the communication issues started well before this all blew up and any county refused an order. again, the country, which includes the people to the government, has to learn from all the mistakes it's making. wolf has made some of his own.

IMO he should sign whatever the best weed bill is in his office right now. tax revenue will boom to funds to help funds unemployment and we can all chill a little.

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It's hysterical to see the MAGA-bots and Fox News continuing to walk into Pelosi's trap so willingly and indignantly. Newsflash -- this is all politics for her base. Pelosi knows none of this will pass the Senate, or ever be signed into law. But now she gets to tell her liberal base that the House passed all these things they want, and the Senate and White House stopped them. So, it's a get out the vote ploy to push the narrative of needing to take back the Senate and Oval Office. As a bonus, it gets Fox News and others to attack her, which HELPS her with the far left that distrusts her. 

Finally, it gives her plenty of things to trade away if/when the time comes to work on an actual bi-partisan bill. She is giving herself all kinds of sacrificial pawns. She did the same thing last time, and Fox was ecstatic about how the GOP beat back all her crazy policies...that she never expected to get in the first place. 

I don't agree with her politics, but Pelosi is 10x the politician of anyone on the other side. 

Just now, Alpha_TATEr said:

the communication issues started well before this all blew up and any county refused an order. again, the country, which includes the people to the government, has to learn from all the mistakes it's making. wolf has made some of his own.

Everyone makes mistakes. No governor or president is perfect (despite what our resident Trumpbots may think). You asked me if I thought he was doing a good job and I said yes in that he’s doing more good than bad. I would rather live in a state that’s taking the PA or Michigan approach over the Georgia and Tennessee approach. Tennessee is seeing its covid cases sky rocket. 

4 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

It's hysterical to see the MAGA-bots and Fox News continuing to walk into Pelosi's trap so willingly and indignantly. Newsflash -- this is all politics for her base. Pelosi knows none of this will pass the Senate, or ever be signed into law. But now she gets to tell her liberal base that the House passed all these things they want, and the Senate and White House stopped them. So, it's a get out the vote ploy to push the narrative of needing to take back the Senate and Oval Office. As a bonus, it gets Fox News and others to attack her, which HELPS her with the far left that distrusts her. 

Finally, it gives her plenty of things to trade away if/when the time comes to work on an actual bi-partisan bill. She is giving herself all kinds of sacrificial pawns. She did the same thing last time, and Fox was ecstatic about how the GOP beat back all her crazy policies...that she never expected to get in the first place. 

I don't agree with her politics, but Pelosi is 10x the politician of anyone on the other side. 

Oh yeah, girl is a political beast and will go down as one the most formidable in the history of the country.

40 minutes ago, Gannan said:

Against weed and diversity. Peak libertarianism here. 

I couldn’t care less about the weed but the prison release restrictions? Yeah, no. 

37 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

Calling out easing weed restrictions?  Tucker Carlson's a narc. 

He’s just pointing out the pounds and pounds of pork. He’s not anti-weed. 

7 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

It's hysterical to see the MAGA-bots and Fox News continuing to walk into Pelosi's trap so willingly and indignantly. Newsflash -- this is all politics for her base. Pelosi knows none of this will pass the Senate, or ever be signed into law. But now she gets to tell her liberal base that the House passed all these things they want, and the Senate and White House stopped them. So, it's a get out the vote ploy to push the narrative of needing to take back the Senate and Oval Office. As a bonus, it gets Fox News and others to attack her, which HELPS her with the far left that distrusts her. 

Finally, it gives her plenty of things to trade away if/when the time comes to work on an actual bi-partisan bill. She is giving herself all kinds of sacrificial pawns. She did the same thing last time, and Fox was ecstatic about how the GOP beat back all her crazy policies...that she never expected to get in the first place. 

I don't agree with her politics, but Pelosi is 10x the politician of anyone on the other side. 

Yeah, obviously it's done to score political points. The fact that ideas like this score political points with her base is what should scare the ever-loving-crap out of every non-deranged leftist in the country. But no one cares. Only horrible Faux News will actually cover the lunacy, and then they'll have walked into Pelosi's carefully laid trap lmao. We get clown world proposals from clown politicians and somehow they're the politically savvy tacticians. :lol: 

40 minutes ago, Gannan said:

Well once they started letting people like Flynn and Blagojevich out of prison, it opened the flood gates.

Manafort just got released due to Corona fears

2 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Yeah, obviously it's done to score political points. The fact that ideas like this score political points with her base is what should scare the ever-loving-crap out of every non-deranged leftist in the country. But no one cares. Only horrible Faux News will actually cover the lunacy, and then they'll have walked into Pelosi's carefully laid trap lmao. We get clown world proposals from clown politicians and somehow they're the politically savvy tacticians. :lol: 

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3 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

I couldn’t care less about the weed but the prison release restrictions? Yeah, no. 

Non violent offenders over 50 don’t scare me much, but like Vikas said, its not going to pass. 

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