I definitely think this is going to get worse again before it gets better, but we'll get there.

2 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

I definitely think this is going to get worse again before it gets better, but we'll get there.

Don't know about other states but looks like we might be finally bending the curve here in MI. If so, then I suspect NY and a couple other UK variant hit states aren't far behind, which means nationally we might be looking at sub 50k daily cases in the next few weeks.

1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Don't know about other states but looks like we might be finally bending the curve here in MI. If so, then I suspect NY and a couple other UK variant hit states aren't far behind, which means nationally we might be looking at sub 50k daily cases in the next few weeks.

Agreed all is well

6 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Don't know about other states but looks like we might be finally bending the curve here in MI. If so, then I suspect NY and a couple other UK variant hit states aren't far behind, which means nationally we might be looking at sub 50k daily cases in the next few weeks.

PA is steady but still high with the avg. close to 5k. I'm wondeirng if we'll see another surge or mini-surge in a few weeks, though, due to J&J dropping out of the supply chain.

2 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

PA is steady but still high with the avg. close to 5k. I'm wondeirng if we'll see another surge or mini-surge in a few weeks, though, due to J&J dropping out of the supply chain.

Yes

40 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

Now make this post again and write it as a percentage.

He can’t do that kind of math. 😂 

16 minutes ago, DBW said:

He can’t do that kind of math. 😂 

That is correct I do not know the exact % of 6000 out of 84 million without calculating it , oh well. But I can add

11 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

 

 

"The Party told you  to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."

4 hours ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Yes but a very small % of those 84 million have come in contact with the virus so we don't know how effective it is yet

Ok but you’re just making that up out of thin air, sooooooo.....

2 hours ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

That is correct I do not know the exact % of 6000 out of 84 million without calculating it , oh well. But I can add

Funny. Now do the math on how often the real world unvaccinated group contracts covid and compare the two percentages. Then come back and let us know if you still think the vaccines aren't effective.

6 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Funny. Now do the math on how often the real world unvaccinated group contracts covid and compare the two percentages. Then come back and let us know if you still think the vaccines aren't effective.

Hey I have seen the light, everything is great, never a cloudy day in my neighborhood. Those variants that are out  of control , no big deal, we will just get booster shots, there will be no issues vaccinating everyone all over again should take a few days at most, the sun never sets in my world

Wow!

11 hours ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Hey I have seen the light, everything is great, never a cloudy day in my neighborhood. Those variants that are out  of control , no big deal, we will just get booster shots, there will be no issues vaccinating everyone all over again should take a few days at most, the sun never sets in my world

What do you call routine that was old months ago, but keeps getting older and older? 

37 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Wow! Numbers confuse me! I am a stupid troll.

Wow! I know, right!!!

 

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Because of this, the CDC has several disclaimers plastered throughout their site:

• "The reports may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental, or unverifiable” HERE

• "Reports of death to VAERS following vaccination do not necessarily mean the vaccine caused the death.” HERE

• "The inclusion of events in VAERS data does not imply causality” HERE

You're welcome, F face.

Covid-19 in India: Why second coronavirus wave is devastating

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-56811315

 

Prolly cause they's all fat and Americany.

Succumbing to a hoax like a bunch of puss bags.

1 hour ago, Kz! said:

Wow!

You realize Alex is an uninformed hack that doesn’t know what he’s looking at, right?

23 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

Wow! I know, right!!!

• "Reports of death to VAERS following vaccination do not necessarily mean the vaccine caused the death.” HERE

You're welcome, F face.

Not sure how this works in the US, but Canada is counting Covid deaths as anyone that dies with the virus but not necessarily because of the virus. If that's how Covid deaths are being counted in the US, then logically it would make sense to count vaccine deaths in a similar manner.

6 minutes ago, Dawkins 20 said:

Not sure how this works in the US, but Canada is counting Covid deaths as anyone that dies with the virus but not necessarily because of the virus. If that's how Covid deaths are being counted in the US, then logically it would make sense to count vaccine deaths in a similar manner.

They're not. Are you saying if someone does in a car crash in Canada, shortly after testing positive, they consider this a covid death? 

5 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

They're not. Are you saying if someone does in a car crash in Canada, shortly after testing positive, they consider this a covid death? 

I remember that happened in Florida. Except it was a motorcycle accident.

5 minutes ago, mr_irie1 said:

I remember that happened in Florida. Except it was a motorcycle accident.

I'm sure there are errors or outliers, but as a matter of policy, no this is NOT how covid deaths are counted by any health department that I'm aware of. It would be asinine to count them this way for a variety of reasons.

10 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

They're not. Are you saying if someone does in a car crash in Canada, shortly after testing positive, they consider this a covid death? 

I'm not sure 100% how they would classify that, but here is a tweet from Toronto Public Health earlier on in the pandemic on how they count Covid deaths. To my knowledge, this practice is commonplace across the country and has not changed to date, but I could be wrong about that:

 

 

Just now, Dawkins 20 said:

I'm not sure 100% how they would classify that, but here is a tweet from Toronto Public Health earlier on in the pandemic on how they count Covid deaths. To my knowledge, this practice is commonplace across the country and has not changed to date, but I could be wrong about that:

 

 

Could be that they mean for deaths with typical indications common with covid deaths like pulmonary issues. I'd be extremely shocked if they're doing this for something like homicides or accidental deaths.

The whole "cancer patients dying with covid aren't really covid deaths" debate came up last spring but doing autopsies and establishing specific causes of deaths for every single dead body is impractical. We've done that enough to already know that covid can kill those with weakened immune systems or those other underlying conditions and co-morbidities. 

We have plenty of evidence of the causal relationship between covid and death, to the tune of hundreds of thousands of cases. Conversely, we have very little evidence to no evidence establishing the causal link between vaccines and deaths. 

around 2.85-2.9M people die every year in the US, in general. So about 740k every 3 mos, which works out - estimating US population at 350M - to about 2 out of 1,000 would naturally be expected to die every 3 mos. 

about 40% of the population has received at least 1 dose - meaning around 140m people have received at least one vaccine. given that this population tends older and less healthy, I'd bet their death rate would be much higher than the overall average, but to keep it simple and conservative this means we'd expect 280k of those vaccinated would die irrespective of the vaccine. 

basically take any sample of 140M people in the US, and within that sample size 280k will die in the next 3 mos. with or without the vaccine.

3,486 people dying after getting the vaccine is meaningless. come back when there is a scientific basis.

In just the past two days we've established vaccines aren't effective and they also killed 3k people. Who knows what scientific discoveries tomorrow will bring.

26 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

In just the past two days we've established vaccines aren't effective and they also killed 3k people. Who knows what scientific discoveries tomorrow will bring.

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