May 14, 20205 yr To show the bigly brilliance of our leader: The United States has less than 5% of the world's population, but more than 28% of the world's coronavirus deaths. Because stupid.
May 14, 20205 yr I never realized how close workers in meat-packing plants stood next to each other. Honestly sounds like that industry took very few precautions and then paid the price for it.
May 14, 20205 yr 54 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: you sure he said that? https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4875636/user-clip-dr-fauci-opening-school-fall Are you suggesting that people are twisting his words?
May 14, 20205 yr 9 minutes ago, Toastrel said: To show the bigly brilliance of our leader: The United States has less than 5% of the world's population, but more than 28% of the world's coronavirus deaths. Because stupid. Trumpbots love failure.
May 14, 20205 yr 11 hours ago, Green_Guinness said: Here in South Jersey I have seen 2 Home Depot stores where there are lines to get inside because they are only allowing a certain amount of customers to go in at any one time. Lowe's on the other hand, I've seen 3 that are open where it's 'business as usual' letting customers in and out with no waiting in line to get in just like it's a normal day in a normal time. And both stores are busy. I can see loads of people who haven't been working finally having the time to do all those home projects they've wanted to do. People are at home more so i guess they are finding things around the house they want to address. Look at Paco. He’s practically remodeling during the pandemic. Makes sense if you can afford it. One of the contractors i work for just got a nice project. We are retrofitting all the lighting at every YMCA in LA (like 25 big facilities) to LED. thank goodness. It was starting to get slow and i was getting nervous.
May 14, 20205 yr 12 hours ago, Outlaw said: This was in response to our supreme intelligence Dr. Fauci stating that he thinks schools SHOULD NOT REOPEN IN THE FALL. Let that sink in...the one guy that is arguably one of the most powerful people in the world (unelected by the way), who has been wrong about multiple things regarding Covid as much as anyone else, "thinks” that schools should not reopen...FOUR MONTHS FROM NOW. F that dude. Glad Rand told him to learn a little humility. 1) Dr. Fauci isn’t one of the most powerful men in the word. I don’t even know what you are talking about here. 2) He did not say that schools shouldn’t open in the fall. 3) He has been wrong about COVID as much as anybody else? Lol what? Come on dude....... If your takeaway from that back and forth was that Rand put him in his place, then I just don’t know what to say to you.
May 14, 20205 yr The funny thing about Trump criticizing Fauci is that up to this point in time he had been getting away with claiming to be an expert on everything. The Coronavirus crisis has really exposed how dangerous that kind of thinking is for a President to engage in. He’s come up woefully short at every step. Countries that opened back up already have had to close back down. You can see where this is going.
May 14, 20205 yr 18 minutes ago, Toastrel said: To show the bigly brilliance of our leader: The United States has less than 5% of the world's population, but more than 28% of the world's coronavirus deaths. Because stupid. Sure - if you think the #s China gives are accurate
May 14, 20205 yr 3 hours ago, Toastrel said: Dr. Faucci is powerful? The reason he is wrong, is that unlike Trump or the rest of his dingbats, is that as a scientist, you make models and predictions based on available data. China and the WHO (while Trump was slobbering all over their knobs) gave bad data and that was what Faucci had - as new data came, predictions and models (these are educated guesses, not facts) changed to fit the facts. You know who was really, insanely wrong? The President. It didn't go away. It didn't disappear with warm weather. While and his pals circle jerked, Americans started dropping like flies. You know who's actually powerful? Donald Trump. The President of the United States. The boss of Dr. Faucci. I've never seen anything like the way Trump supporters go after people within the administration while simultaneously absolving the boss of the people they're going after. The FBI. The CDC. The FDA. In their mind, these agencies have no connection to the Administration and Trump is powerless against them. Except he's their boss. The responsibility for any failure made by them falls on him. That's how it works in every business and in every Presidential administration (hell, right now they're attacking Obama for something the FBI did under his watch). Somehow, in their minds, Trump is exempt from that rule. It's delusional. 3 minutes ago, mikemack8 said: Sure - if you think the #s China gives are accurate No matter what China's numbers are, ours are pathetic. We've performed like a 3rd world country in this crisis.
May 14, 20205 yr 12 hours ago, Outlaw said: This was in response to our supreme intelligence Dr. Fauci stating that he thinks schools SHOULD NOT REOPEN IN THE FALL. Let that sink in...the one guy that is arguably one of the most powerful people in the world (unelected by the way), who has been wrong about multiple things regarding Covid as much as anyone else, "thinks” that schools should not reopen...FOUR MONTHS FROM NOW. F that dude. Glad Rand told him to learn a little humility. I'll preface this by saying that I hate the idea of my kinds not going back to school in the fall. If my wife somehow gets called back to work, I don't know how we'd manage this online school thing with my kids. That said, there's nothing on the horizon between now and the fall that's going to make it safe for them to do so. If kids go back to school in the fall, some of them will die. His responsibility is to present what the data informs. Rand Paul is F'n grandstander, and should arguably face criminal charges for recklessly spreading this disease. Because he recovered relatively quickly, he thinks its no big deal to infect everyone else with it. The epitome of a selfish a hole.
May 14, 20205 yr 11 hours ago, DMMVP said: Prez on point. Lockdowns don't cure the virus. Vaccine is neither guaranteed to come or be fully effective. June 4 in PA has no data backing. Time to start opening up.
May 14, 20205 yr 10 hours ago, Outlaw said: The four of you should have a choice on whether you stay in or not, just like my family of four should. Nobody will ever force you to go out, but a hell of a lot of us are being forced to stay in. Hell, the Mayor of LA came out today and said that LA will not fully reopen until there is a CURE. How’s that cure for AIDS going? Cancer? The common cold? He basically said he’s cool with LA potentially never going back to normal. All of these stay at home orders were to flatten the curve. We did. Keep the CDC protocols and recommendations in place. I don’t care about wearing a mask. I don’t care about 6 feet apart. Obviously everyone should be washing the ish out of their hands. But to keep entire states essentially on lockdown for the foreseeable future? I mean JFC one of the most powerful unelected people in the US, Dr. Fauci, came out and said he doesn’t even think schools should reopen NEXT school year! I’m not painting my face blue and yelling freeeeeedom in front of the state capital, but I’m sure as hell tired of being forced to stay in my home against my will. And again, those of you who want/need to continue doing that would not be forced to change that. I’m tired of being forced to do the reverse, and I don’t believe I’m part of a minority. There will be a vaccine within 9-10 months. There are a few that are really close. Oxford is in human trials.
May 14, 20205 yr 29 minutes ago, mikemack8 said: Sure - if you think the #s China gives are accurate You might not be aware, but China is only one country. If their toll is worse, we are second to China. Feeling good about having the second best death toll? Better?
May 14, 20205 yr 31 minutes ago, mikemack8 said: Sure - if you think the #s China gives are accurate I don't but someone sure thinks they're doing a great job with their transparency.
May 14, 20205 yr I have been able to stay working, hell I even have OT, so I cant begin to put myself in somebody's shoes that lost their job during this. I still think there is more to this virus then we are being told. im not speaking about some Chinese or soros conspiracy, im mean the virus itself. like the concern is if they don't stop this now, the next round will be 1000 times worse.
May 14, 20205 yr I queefed about people using total numbers when talking about testing so I'll try to be consistent and queef about using total death toll in the US. We're #1 in total reported deaths, but something like 9th (varies if you want to include dependencies or microstates or not) in per capita deaths. Still not good, but not #1 in the a more representative measure either.
May 14, 20205 yr 7 minutes ago, Toastrel said: You might not be aware, but China is only one country. If their toll is worse, we are second to China. Feeling good about having the second best death toll? Better? Yeah, but what's important is Trump. American lives? Big deal. Most of them are old. But if we deflect to China, Trump will like that. Must impress Dear Leader.
May 14, 20205 yr 3 minutes ago, Toastrel said: You might not be aware, but China is only one country. If their toll is worse, we are second to China. Feeling good about having the second best death toll? Better? Lots of countries apparently have struggled with the death toll. Some countries whose death toll, per capita, are worse than the US include Italy, UK, France, and Sweden. The US hasn’t handled this well, much like most of the world.
May 14, 20205 yr 6 minutes ago, RPeeteRules said: Lots of countries apparently have struggled with the death toll. Some countries whose death toll, per capita, are worse than the US include Italy, UK, France, and Sweden. The US hasn’t handled this well, much like most of the world. But we don't live in those countries. And we should expect better from the richest, most powerful country in the world. Why would you want to accept failure?
May 14, 20205 yr 11 minutes ago, Toastrel said: You might not be aware, but China is only one country. If their toll is worse, we are second to China. Feeling good about having the second best death toll? Better? One country with a population that is over a BILLION higher than the US. All I'm saying is there's a very good chance that their #s are astronomically higher than they report, just based on the sheer size of the population. Taking that into account, the US having 28% of the world's deaths would be much lower.
May 14, 20205 yr 18 minutes ago, mikemack8 said: One country with a population that is over a BILLION higher than the US. All I'm saying is there's a very good chance that their #s are astronomically higher than they report, just based on the sheer size of the population. Taking that into account, the US having 28% of the world's deaths would be much lower. SO, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE USA HAVING THE SECOND HIGHEST DEATH TOLL?
May 14, 20205 yr Just now, Toastrel said: SO, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE USA HAVING THE SECOND HIGHEST DEATH TOLL? I mean I guess since we're the 3rd largest country in the world, we should be 3rd, not 2nd. OK, you got me.
May 14, 20205 yr 5 minutes ago, mikemack8 said: I mean I guess since we're the 3rd largest country in the world, we should be 3rd, not 2nd. OK, you got me. Wow. You have really low expectations for our country.
May 14, 20205 yr 3 minutes ago, mikemack8 said: I mean I guess since we're the 3rd largest country in the world, we should be 3rd, not 2nd. OK, you got me. So, our response being on the level of the third world is okay? Since we have the people, they should die like we live in Turdistan?
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