May 14, 20205 yr should I expect better from this country's response ? yes am I surprised it's at the level it is ? no
May 14, 20205 yr 4 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: But we don't live in those countries. And we should expect better from the richest, most powerful country in the world. Why would you want to accept failure? Not sure where I said I accept failure, nor that I’d want to. We should want better, but also understand that seeing a number doesn’t tell a story.
May 14, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, Gannan said: Get off your high horse. Roadway deaths are down because of decreased lockdown traffic. Should we limit vehicles on the road moving forward?
May 14, 20205 yr I didn't realize so many in here didn't understand simple math and statistics, so I'll just bow out.
May 14, 20205 yr Just now, mikemack8 said: I didn't realize so many in here didn't understand simple math and statistics, so I'll just bow out. Good idea to run away when you bring nothing to the table.
May 14, 20205 yr https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/14/coronavirus-trump-slams-disgruntled-employee-rick-bright-house-hearing.html Trumps says whistle blower is disgruntled employee. Yes, moron, that is what a whistle blower is - an employee that is no longer gruntled. Probably the only factual thing Trump has said in weeks. Quote Lawyers for Bright say he was sidelined in retaliation for his pushback on the Trump administration’s efforts "to provide unfettered access to potentially dangerous drugs, including chloroquine ... which is untested and possibly deadly when used improperly.” In March and April, Trump repeatedly touted the anti-malaria drugs chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine as possibly being effective treatments for the coronavirus. "It can help them, but it’s not going to hurt them,” Trump said at a White House press briefing in early April. But Bright, in a statement first reported by The New York Times following his ouster as director, said he resisted pressure to spend money on the "potentially dangerous drugs.”
May 14, 20205 yr 5 minutes ago, DMMVP said: Get off your high horse. Roadway deaths are down because of decreased lockdown traffic. Should we limit vehicles on the road moving forward? A more apt analogy would be that we should let people drink and drive because people die in car accidents anyway. Very sound logic you have there.
May 14, 20205 yr 18 hours ago, VanHammersly said: Equal protections are being violated either way. If you put everything in lockdown, you're obviously not going to close essential services (police, fire, EMT's especially, grocery stores, drug stores, etc.). You're doing so because some services are in the interests of public's heath and some aren't. Choosing to allow a restaurant to open while not allowing a concert to take place is no different. Liquor store and vacuum repair shop should be treated equally, since they're essentially the same system: customer's come in, buy what they need, then leave. It can be done in an orderly fashion and with proper distancing. Church is a different story. It's about a lot of people gathering in a room together. Yea but they have the right to shut everything down for an emergency. They don't have the right to pick and chose what can be open. Either it's an emergency, or it isn't.
May 14, 20205 yr 13 minutes ago, mikemack8 said: I didn't realize so many in here didn't understand simple math and statistics, so I'll just bow out. you better run, forest!
May 14, 20205 yr 5 minutes ago, Perforator said: Yea but they have the right to shut everything down for an emergency. They don't have the right to pick and chose what can be open. Either it's an emergency, or it isn't. if they shut down everything including essential services, you'd have the military distributing food, meds, etc. would you rather that option?
May 14, 20205 yr 17 minutes ago, Perforator said: Yea but they have the right to shut everything down for an emergency. They don't have the right to pick and chose what can be open. Either it's an emergency, or it isn't. Basically what Hunt said, but there's just no way to do what you're saying without people starving in mass. If we didn't keep grocery stores open how would people get food? Also, why are you hoping for that vs. selecting services based on how essential they are? What does it gain us as a country trying to get through a crisis to be so rigid?
May 14, 20205 yr brain dead bucks county had a "we wanna go outside" protest yesterday. https://www.buckscountycouriertimes.com/news/20200513/commissioners-bucks-rapidly-moving-toward-reopening-phase
May 14, 20205 yr 29 minutes ago, Perforator said: Yea but they have the right to shut everything down for an emergency. They don't have the right to pick and chose what can be open. Either it's an emergency, or it isn't. This makes no sense. You mean the ONLY options are close nothing or close everything? Why do you think that?
May 14, 20205 yr 8 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: brain dead bucks county had a "we wanna go outside" protest yesterday. https://www.buckscountycouriertimes.com/news/20200513/commissioners-bucks-rapidly-moving-toward-reopening-phase that last pic says it all in regards to the collective brain power there.
May 14, 20205 yr 5 minutes ago, Gannan said: A more apt analogy would be that we should let people drink and drive because people die in car accidents anyway. Very sound logic you have there. Hardly. The virus curve, unfortunately, was only meant to spread out infections and not stop them. Comparing a virus spread in any way to allowing impaired driving is silly. With lesser traffic on roads we have saved lives. My question to you was should traffic go be allowed at former levels with the risk to lives?
May 14, 20205 yr 12 minutes ago, DMMVP said: Hardly. The virus curve, unfortunately, was only meant to spread out infections and not stop them. Comparing a virus spread in any way to allowing impaired driving is silly. With lesser traffic on roads we have saved lives. My question to you was should traffic go be allowed at former levels with the risk to lives? Your question is a stupid one and irrelevant to the discussion. Its reckless behavior. If you want to go out and infect yourself, be my guest. Stay away from me. And yes, we do need to spread out infections. The states that have reopened are seeing their numbers sky rocket.
May 14, 20205 yr Needed to do a Home Depot and Costco run today. Saw now fewer than two people at each place with masks on but their nostrils sticking out above them
May 14, 20205 yr 36 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: brain dead bucks county had a "we wanna go outside" protest yesterday. https://www.buckscountycouriertimes.com/news/20200513/commissioners-bucks-rapidly-moving-toward-reopening-phase Sadly, Bucks is Trumpbot country.
May 14, 20205 yr Also went to two giants to find coconut milk. (We are out and its out just about everywhere here for reasons) I noticed both of them removed the one direction requirements to their aisles.
May 14, 20205 yr 185,205 out of 1,380,763 national positive coronavirus cases (13%) are from the five boroughs of New York City. 15,233 out of 78,031 national coronavirus deaths (20%) are from the five boroughs of New York City. (5,083 are presumed to also be coronavirus deaths. If those are included in national deaths, which I am not sure of, then 26% of all deaths in the US are from the five boroughs of New York City.)
May 14, 20205 yr 4 minutes ago, paco said: Needed to do a Home Depot and Costco run today. Saw now fewer than two people at each place with masks on but their nostrils sticking out above them That's right up there with people taking it off and leaning in when they want to talk.
May 14, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, DEagle7 said: That's right up there with people taking it off and leaning in when they want to talk. Or people with gloves and a mask on walkig with their shopping bags and talking on their cell phoens.....
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