May 19, 20205 yr 3 hours ago, Green_Guinness said: Andrea Helfrich. Had to look it up. Oh forgot about her. Browsing her IG, she was in Italy in April. Not surprising that she caught it.
May 19, 20205 yr 15 hours ago, dawkins4prez said: I don't know why dr philly avoided the question but this was what I was getting at. He claimed we needed a year for this data to be relevant. I think the 6 month window is perfect to really gauge the death toll by total deaths and not just the covid deaths. I also believe the total death variance is going to be HIGHER than the official COVID #'s. I didn’t avoid it. Exactly the opposite as I introduced the topic which you said yourself. All I did was not put a specific timeline on it. I said "a year” simply because the stats are usually reported as an annual figure. I also didn’t want to get into a boob for tat regarding the value of extending a life by a certain amount of time.
May 19, 20205 yr Daily update from the doc https://www.nothingbutthetruthmd.com/2020/05/51820-covid-19-update.html?m=1 Good evening, Who was it that fiddled as Rome burned? The greatest evil......the indifference of good men I received a call this weekend from one of the large bookmaking operations in Vegas, the name is omitted to protect the guilty. With the absence of sports they are really hurting. They received their PPP money but their burn rate is chewing right through that, even though many of the beautiful amenities of Vegas life have been furloughed. They would very much appreciate my assistance in coming up with an odds scheme for catching the virus. I have already come up with an acronym. COVERS - Covid exposure risk score. I wasn't sure whether I wanted it to be a numerical score or put it into graphic form and I have decided that a Cartesian Coordinate System will work efficiently. More opportunity to wager! The "X" axis will measure the Covid-19 IQ. I had to make a decision to either use numbers or descriptions and I opted for descriptions. It will be directly proportional, so "enlightened" will be at the "X" - "Y" intersection and "dolt" will be at the top of the "X" axis. Still working on the "Y" axis. One of my trial lawyer friends, who has nothing to do at this time, is representing me in negotiating my percentage of the action. I am just so excited. Reopening The need to reopen and return individuals to work again is irrefutable. It will be a decision making adventure, with all involved. It appears that we are going to be smoldering with a level of new viral infections for some time. One to two years will not be surprising to me. As restrictions are being eased many are choosing to not wear masks, while other companies and business owners are mandating masks for all employees, irrespective of choices made by leadership. The mix of these opposing factions will determine the baseline activity that I expect to see for some time Clearly, we need to generate money, we desperately need economic activity. If we were to relieve all of the billionaires of their wealth (socialist dream come true) how long do you think the country would be able to fund its absolutely essential programs? The decisions that each individual, returning to the workforce chooses will have a bearing on outcomes. I doubt that we will see a return to the crisis conditions that generated the "shutdown." This is based on my observations of the effectiveness of masks in decreasing or halting the transmission of the respiratory virus. The evidence from other countries deploying tracking and tracing and quarantine protocols informs me of the possibilities of controlling viral transmission. The inertia, so evident in leadership at all levels, in the early phase of this pandemic, precipitated a crisis centered on the implosion of our healthcare system. Someone, at a high level, finally appreciated the rapid doubling rate and realized that in another week or two, case loads would reach a devastating level precipitating health issues unacceptable with our life style. There was no time to determine the effectiveness of masks at mitigation. Times are different now, we are no longer in danger of overwhelming the healthcare system. Certainly ,it is a different healthcare system than existed in November of last year. It is more costly and will remain so. Other societal changes, education, entertainment and gatherings will be the impetus for behavioral changes. The will of the people to tolerate lost norms versus accepting more temporary infringements on normality (wearing masks and quarantines) will strongly influence the actions we take as a society. The daily case counts and the fatality rates are additional facts of life that will cause some distress, others will be indifferent. Again, it will be the will of the people which will dictate what actions are driven by these ever escalating numbers. The background rate of infection must not reach a level jeopardizing the function of the economy or the workforce as was seen with mass transit workers or meat processors previously. The cumulative pressure exerted by lifestyle changes will determine which, and to what degree, mitigation efforts will be tolerated. It is heartening to read that the automobile manufacturers are instituting measures to help ensure the health of their workforce, including physical barriers, physical distancing and masks when physical distancing is not possible. It is interesting to note that they are designing future manufacturing plants with the next pandemic in mind. Numbers: 1600 from the Hopkins website Tests - 11,834,303 (335,303 tests in the last 24 hours) USA - 1,504,386 (up 1.31.%, down from 1.41%, 1122 fewer new cases than the ay before) New York - 351,371 (up 0.35%, down from 0.54%, 639 fewer cases than the day before) New Jersey - 148,240 (up1.18%,up from 0.97%, the second day in a row that New Jersey is up and there was an increase in bed utilization for the first time in a long time) Pennsylvania - 66,669 (up 1.47%, up from 0.79%) Maryland - (up 2.46%, up from 2.20%) California - 80,530 (up 1.16%, down from 2.18%, 374 fewer new cases than the day before) South Carolina - 8942 (up 3.24%, up from 3.02% the day before) Texas - (up 1.90%, down from 2.01%, 35 fewer new cases than the day before) World - 4,782,215 (up 1.69%, down from 1.76%, 1664 fewer new cases than the day before) Bed utilization was up in New Jersey, Pennsylvania, California and Texas Please forward this message to others Live Safely Be Well
May 19, 20205 yr 10 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said: The need to reopen and return individuals to work again is irrefutable. It will be a decision making adventure, with all involved. It appears that we are going to be smoldering with a level of new viral infections for some time. One to two years will not be surprising to me. As restrictions are being eased many are choosing to not wear masks, while other companies and business owners are mandating masks for all employees, irrespective of choices made by leadership. The mix of these opposing factions will determine the baseline activity that I expect to see for some time Clearly, we need to generate money, we desperately need economic activity. If we were to relieve all of the billionaires of their wealth (socialist dream come true) how long do you think the country would be able to fund its absolutely essential programs? The decisions that each individual, returning to the workforce chooses will have a bearing on outcomes. I doubt that we will see a return to the crisis conditions that generated the "shutdown." This is based on my observations of the effectiveness of masks in decreasing or halting the transmission of the respiratory virus. The evidence from other countries deploying tracking and tracing and quarantine protocols informs me of the possibilities of controlling viral transmission. The inertia, so evident in leadership at all levels, in the early phase of this pandemic, precipitated a crisis centered on the implosion of our healthcare system. Someone, at a high level, finally appreciated the rapid doubling rate and realized that in another week or two, case loads would reach a devastating level precipitating health issues unacceptable with our life style. There was no time to determine the effectiveness of masks at mitigation. Times are different now, we are no longer in danger of overwhelming the healthcare system. Certainly ,it is a different healthcare system than existed in November of last year. It is more costly and will remain so. Other societal changes, education, entertainment and gatherings will be the impetus for behavioral changes. The will of the people to tolerate lost norms versus accepting more temporary infringements on normality (wearing masks and quarantines) will strongly influence the actions we take as a society. The daily case counts and the fatality rates are additional facts of life that will cause some distress, others will be indifferent. Again, it will be the will of the people which will dictate what actions are driven by these ever escalating numbers. The background rate of infection must not reach a level jeopardizing the function of the economy or the workforce as was seen with mass transit workers or meat processors previously. The cumulative pressure exerted by lifestyle changes will determine which, and to what degree, mitigation efforts will be tolerated. Good to see the discussion move to this which was inevitable
May 19, 20205 yr 13 hours ago, EagleVA said: So you don't think what you're hearing on mainstream news is a conspiracy? There are many scientist and medical professionals who say what you're hearing in the mainstream media is the epitome of BS, you have to ask yourself, why aren't their voices being heard? Here's a 7 minute example of another point of view from those scientists and medical professionals. Is COVID-19 even real?
May 19, 20205 yr I am utterly shocked that the states that raced out to re-open early are .... being accused of suppressing numbers by the liberal media!! LIBERALZ HAVE NO SHAME
May 19, 20205 yr 14 hours ago, DEagle7 said: Covidiot he should definitely take it if he wants to. so should his supporters. this is 'murica. it's their right.
May 19, 20205 yr Just now, mr_hunt said: he should definitely take it if he wants to. so should his supporters. this is 'murica. it's their right. I highly doubt he's taking it, but he'll claim that's why he didn't catch the virus.
May 19, 20205 yr 32 minutes ago, Mike030270 said: I'd love the backstory to this @Outlaw @EagleJoe8 Outlaw, myself and a few others he had on ignore on the old board because we made him look bad. The others on that list, I’m sure he fears are out to get him.
May 19, 20205 yr 4 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said: This clown should think about this while they are spending money like drunken sailors and deficit spending us into record deficits and debt.
May 19, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, DEagle7 said: Damn liberals trying to boost their numbers to scare folks! Meanwhile... Did you see that graph from Georgia? It is cuckoo.
May 19, 20205 yr 50 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I am utterly shocked that the states that raced out to re-open early are .... being accused of suppressing numbers by the liberal media!! LIBERALZ HAVE NO SHAME Ive said it before. Once we get back to somewhat normality, we need to find and fire everyone who participated in the falsification of facts in regards to the covid-19 statistics. people can handle the truth. We just never know what the truth is.
May 19, 20205 yr 15 hours ago, mayanh8 said: I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't taking it and just lied to everyone. This is almost definitely the case. As soon as he said that, I'm like...
May 19, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, Gannan said: This is almost definitely the case. As soon as he said that, I'm like... He's probably taking Flintstones Chewables and his doctor says it's hydroxi.
May 19, 20205 yr this is definitely a deflection from the pompeo mess..he was up to some swampy, swampy stuff.
May 19, 20205 yr 4 minutes ago, Smokesdawg said: He's probably taking Flintstones Chewables and his doctor says it's hydroxi. Refuses to take anything but the purple Dinos.
May 19, 20205 yr 3 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: this is definitely a deflection from the pompeo mess..he was up to some swampy, swampy stuff. the swamp is drained, i guess the news hasn't reached you yet
May 19, 20205 yr 7 minutes ago, Gannan said: Pelosi is killing it I don't love that she said this but i chuckled. I've said from the beginning, Trump's election will begin to erode even the smallest amount of decency that is left in politics. It has now devolved into petty name calling. It started with Trump because that's all he's got. He doesn't have the intellect to do anything more than just name calling but now it's migrated to both sides and formerly "halfway decent politicians" have now followed his lead down the dark path.
May 19, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, DEagle7 said: Damn liberals trying to boost their numbers to scare folks! Meanwhile... Death Cult 45.
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