May 21, 20205 yr @DEagle7 - "Nursing homes employ trained professionals who are equipped to deal with coronavirus patients." Nursing home employees -
May 21, 20205 yr 2 hours ago, Tnt4philly said: It sucks a little that the people my company furloughed are making more than those of us still working. I have also heard of people with PT jobs receiving partial UE along with the $600/wk. It’s a good thing the FED has a money tree. These programs are going to hurt more businesses than it helps, especially the small ones. And we wonder why the big companies keep getting bigger. I keep hearing this from my clients all day. they have work, but cant get their employees to come back.
May 21, 20205 yr yes a video of an abusive orderly definitely proves that all nursing facilities can't be trusted to take care of sick and old folks. Sure showed me. Surely that video proves we must shut em all down! Still waiting on that alternative solution on where to put those patients KZ. Been awhile, it must be really well researched and flushed out by now
May 21, 20205 yr 26 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said: I keep hearing this from my clients all day. they have work, but cant get their employees to come back. Pay more.
May 21, 20205 yr 6 minutes ago, Ride the Walrus said: Pay more. damn, why didn't everyone else think of that ?
May 21, 20205 yr 4 hours ago, mayanh8 said: You think that's bad. Here in York our Mayor furloughed 103 employees and said they will make more on UE so it's a win-win situation. This is pathetic and no one bats an eye at this crap. "It was an easy decision because the unemployment compensation system pays them more than what they were getting paid as city employees. It’s a win-win. The employees get extra money and the taxpayers don’t have to pay for it,” he said. https://local21news.com/news/local/york-plans-to-furlough-103-workers
May 21, 20205 yr 58 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said: damn, why didn't everyone else think of that ? Then don't whine cause employees don't want to work for peanuts It's pretty simple if they won't come back cause they make more and feel safer not at that job, then said job needs to increase incentives to get employees. It's the same argument that we need illegals to pick our crops. No, they're the only ones that will do it for the peanuts being offered. If that job paid 100K a year then I guarantee you'd be able to find people.
May 21, 20205 yr Just now, Ride the Walrus said: Then don't whine cause employees don't want to work for peanuts It's pretty simple if they won't come back cause they make more and feel safer not at that job, then said job needs to increase incentives to get employees. It's the same argument that we need illegals to pick our crops. No, they're the only ones that will do it for the peanuts being offered. If that job paid 100K a year then I guarantee you'd be able to find people. im glad you saw the flaw in your narrative. I was worried you missed it.
May 21, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, Ride the Walrus said: Pay more. You seriously expect private companies to be able to compete with the government handing out money like it grows on trees? Sure many of the larger corporations could afford to pay more, but how do you think small businesses will compete?
May 21, 20205 yr Just now, Tnt4philly said: You seriously expect private companies to be able to compete with the government handing out money like it grows on trees? Sure many of the larger corporations could afford to pay more, but how do you think small businesses will compete? Innovate? Or if they were relying on cheap labor and got priced out of business then guess what go out of business. Isn't this what "capitalist" want? Where is the free market? Or is this more well we need wage slaves to pad our wallets.
May 21, 20205 yr 4 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said: im glad you saw the flaw in your narrative. I was worried you missed it. yes, employer whines we can't get employees to come back but won't raise benefits/pay to incentivize this. Brilliant!
May 21, 20205 yr Just now, Ride the Walrus said: Innovate? Or if they were relying on cheap labor and got priced out of business then guess what go out of business. Isn't this what "capitalist" want? Where is the free market? Or is this more well we need wage slaves to pad our wallets. Free market capitalists want fair competition without the government picking the winners and losers.
May 21, 20205 yr 3 minutes ago, Ride the Walrus said: yes, employer whines we can't get employees to come back but won't raise benefits/pay to incentivize this. Brilliant! You keep missing the point about the governments endless supply of money.
May 21, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, Tnt4philly said: Free market capitalists want fair competition without the government picking the winners and losers. Government wouldn't be picking winners or losers. The losers would be the companies that can't make a profit, innovate, raise prices, etc. to keep in business. Labor having power isn't a bad thing and raising wages for those isn't bad either. The companies that would struggle again aren't doing enough to make profit necessary to compete in and of itself. All systems have some kind of rules and regulation, so if you can't compete in them then oh well.
May 21, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said: You keep missing the point about the governments endless supply of money. Except the maximum someone taking home in PA with SUI and the "bonus" $600 is $60,944. The median household income in PA is $59,195. Sorry, I'm not going to boot lick or have any sympathy for "job creators". If your business can't afford to make up the difference, having either furloughed or laid me off and expect any kind of loyalty, then you're on crack. They can suck a chode. They failed by their own greed and incompetence not by the government.
May 21, 20205 yr 4 minutes ago, Ride the Walrus said: Government wouldn't be picking winners or losers. The losers would be the companies that can't make a profit, innovate, raise prices, etc. to keep in business. Labor having power isn't a bad thing and raising wages for those isn't bad either. The companies that would struggle again aren't doing enough to make profit necessary to compete in and of itself. All systems have some kind of rules and regulation, so if you can't compete in them then oh well. https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/exposing-the-minimum-wage-fallacy-its-an-ironclad-law-of-economics-that-to-stimulate-one-group-you-have-to-un-stimulate-another-group/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/adammillsap/2018/09/28/how-higher-minimum-wages-impact-employment/amp/ https://epionline.org/oped/o78/
May 21, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, Ride the Walrus said: Except the maximum someone taking home in PA with SUI and the "bonus" $600 is $60,944. The median household income in PA is $59,195. Sorry, I'm not going to boot lick or have any sympathy for "job creators". If your business can't afford to make up the difference, having either furloughed or laid me off and expect any kind of loyalty, then you're on crack. They can suck a chode. They failed by their own greed and incompetence not by the government. Expecting most businesses to be able to increase the pay of all their employees amidst a massive economic crisis is just ridiculous. There are plenty of predatory businesses out there but the vast majority of small businesses/practices etc, even very benign ones, absolutely do not have the margins to do that right now.
May 21, 20205 yr How does the government pick winners and losers? Let me count the ways https://www.freedomworks.org/content/government-picks-winners-and-losers-covid-19-relief-what-else-new https://www.google.com/amp/s/americansforprosperity.org/afp-there-is-nothing-fair-about-government-picking-winners-and-losers/amp/ https://www.aei.org/events/victims-of-cronyism-government-cannot-pick-winners-without-making-losers/
May 21, 20205 yr 38 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: Expecting most businesses to be able to increase the pay of all their employees amidst a massive economic crisis is just ridiculous. There are plenty of predatory businesses out there but the vast majority of small businesses/practices etc, even very benign ones, absolutely do not have the margins to do that right now. "They'll figure it out"
May 21, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, Ride the Walrus said: Except the maximum someone taking home in PA with SUI and the "bonus" $600 is $60,944. The median household income in PA is $59,195. Sorry, I'm not going to boot lick or have any sympathy for "job creators". If your business can't afford to make up the difference, having either furloughed or laid me off and expect any kind of loyalty, then you're on crack. They can suck a chode. They failed by their own greed and incompetence not by the government. why do you hate small businesses so much ?
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