HazletonEagle Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Diehardfan said: What bench after these trades Rondo on a vet minimum Jordan Clarkson on MLE Norvell Pelle, or Nelens on vet min. Lob city. And of course Mike Scott and Furk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HazletonEagle Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 6 hours ago, Shocker54 said: Culd dat even fit da cap? Not really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20dawk4life Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 8 hours ago, HazletonEagle said: Foshbomb! If it were true, wonder what the picks would be. In today's market, thats likely a Jrue type package of picks. But it was too much for Jrue, and its too much for Lavine. If its a first, and a nicely protected future first thats ok with me. Dont want to do more than that. That's way too much for Lavine. Unless they're taking horford. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggs5008 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 1 hour ago, 20dawk4life said: That's way too much for Lavine. Unless they're taking horford. Is it? I guess it depends on what the multiple draft picks consist of but Richardson has one year left, Thybulle is a bench specialist and will never be a starter, Smith sucks. You are getting a 25 year old up and coming star that brings 3 things at the guard position that the sixers need: shooting, athleticism and someone who can take the last shot in a game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_hunt Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 gws2: Morey isnt dumb and isnt going to mortgage the future for mid-level type guys. They still are not willing to part with Ben so Harden isnt happening right now. They will make a move or two after the draft and the new year begins. The sooner some people realize that this team wont look much different, the easier it will be for those people to accept the reality of the situation. They have untradeable contracts but want to see how these guys fit with a new coaching staff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_hunt Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 gws2: From what I’ve very recently heard, there is no Nets deal. Rockets want Simmons and Morey knows this. Sixers aren’t willing to trade Ben at this time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20dawk4life Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 45 minutes ago, ggs5008 said: Is it? I guess it depends on what the multiple draft picks consist of but Richardson has one year left, Thybulle is a bench specialist and will never be a starter, Smith sucks. You are getting a 25 year old up and coming star that brings 3 things at the guard position that the sixers need: shooting, athleticism and someone who can take the last shot in a game. Yea it’s too much. He’s not a leader or willing a team to wins. He’s a nice complimentary player but not worth what was reported. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toughfighter83 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 30 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: gws2: Morey isnt dumb and isnt going to mortgage the future for mid-level type guys. They still are not willing to part with Ben so Harden isnt happening right now. They will make a move or two after the draft and the new year begins. The sooner some people realize that this team wont look much different, the easier it will be for those people to accept the reality of the situation. They have untradeable contracts but want to see how these guys fit with a new coaching staff. im so sick of sixers mentality of our guys are better than them, if our guys are better than them, why cant we get to the finals? ben cant or wont shoot the ball like what in universe does this fo see in that when you need shooters to win? i seriously think it's an ego with josh harris obbession with simmons that he just wont want to get rid of him. it has nothing to do with basketball. i think josh is still putting his nose into everything, this team will never win a championship as long as harris is here, it doesnt matter what great coaches and gms are here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20dawk4life Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 1 minute ago, toughfighter83 said: im so sick of sixers mentality of our guys are better than them, if our guys are better than them, why cant we get to the finals? ben cant or wont shoot the ball like what in universe does this fo see in that when you need shooters to win? i seriously think it's an ego with josh harris obbession with simmons that he just wont want to get rid of him. it has nothing to do with basketball. i think josh is still putting his nose into everything, this team will never win a championship as long as harris is here, it doesnt matter what great coaches and gms are here. Or they don’t want to give up on a good 24 year old player, plus more for a player who will most likely never win a championship and is on the back end of his career. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toughfighter83 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said: Or they don’t want to give up on a good 24 year old player, plus more for a player who will most likely never win a championship and is on the back end of his career. so you would rather have a player that wont shoot the ball over a player that can shoot the ball all because of this championship crap nonsense? you wanted butler gone, so i guess you are just happy with these players and not giving a crap about winning it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20dawk4life Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, toughfighter83 said: so you would rather have a player that wont shoot the ball over a player that can shoot the ball all because of this championship crap nonsense? you wanted butler gone, so i guess you are just happy with these players and not giving a crap about winning it all. When did I want butler gone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 I think it's fair of the new coaching staff and GM to see what they can get from Ben and Joel in a new system. I'd try and trade the dreck around them but you have to mortgage assets to do it which is not ideal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rambo Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mat said: I think it's fair of the new coaching staff and GM to see what they can get from Ben and Joel in a new system. I'd try and trade the dreck around them but you have to mortgage assets to do it which is not ideal People need patience. Morey and Doc just got here. They have a lot of crap to sort through. I know everybody is clamoring for a huge splash but lets start with getting through the draft tonight. This team needs shooters. Nobody was ****ing about Ben/Joel fit when they were surrounded by legit shooters (JJ, Ersan, Belinelli, etc...). Hope they come out of tonight with a legit shooter (like Joe or Terry) and a secondary creator (Anthony or Riller). Reality is we have two big negative contracts and it's gonna take sometime to move them. I also don't think Harden is going anywhere before the season. Houston's owner doesn't want to look anymore like a clown and given what Jrue fetched the price is astronomical right now. Nets don't have what it takes. If you look at when the picks/swaps the bucks traded for Jrue it was an absolute albatross. They got 4 unprotected picks/swaps from 2024-2027. When the bucks might start regressing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_hunt Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 if doc has a magic wand that miraculously turns ben into a jump shooter, give him his own wing in the nba hall of fame. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaEagles4Life Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 23 minutes ago, Mat said: I think it's fair of the new coaching staff and GM to see what they can get from Ben and Joel in a new system. I'd try and trade the dreck around them but you have to mortgage assets to do it which is not ideal No system will allow them to play together until Ben shoots. Spacing will always remain an issue especially in the playoffs where the game slows down. Embiid can't truly dominate the paint with Simmons on the floor. Nor, do you don't want Joel standing at the 3 point line as Ben jumps in the air and tries to find an open teammate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaEagles4Life Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 This is Ben and will always be Ben. Dude hasn't improved one bit in 3 years in the league 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_hunt Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Quote [Stein] The Celtics keep searching for trade pathways to get into the top three of tonight's NBA Draft, league sources say. 10-ish hours left to find one ... twitter.com/TheSte... for wiseman, i'm assuming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaEagles4Life Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: for wiseman, i'm assuming. Or the USC kid, Onyeka Okongwu. No one else makes sense. I guess Killian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rambo Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said: Or the USC kid, Onyeka Okongwu. No one else makes sense. I guess Killian This dude has a injured foot and teams are scrambling for medical info on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_hunt Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said: This is Ben and will always be Ben. Dude hasn't improved one bit in 3 years in the league yep...it's looking like more of the same for this upcoming season. embiid is winded after 3-4 minutes so he stands behind the 3 point line. simmons drives the lane & jumps (with his back to the basket)...flings the ball out to harris behind the 3 point line...he pumpfakes (because he's a reluctant 3 pt shooter) & drives into traffic where he misses a contested shot. that's our 76ers, folks! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 24 minutes ago, rambo said: People need patience. Morey and Doc just got here. They have a lot of crap to sort through. I know everybody is clamoring for a huge splash but lets start with getting through the draft tonight. This team needs shooters. Nobody was ****ing about Ben/Joel fit when they were surrounded by legit shooters (JJ, Ersan, Belinelli, etc...). Hope they come out of tonight with a legit shooter (like Joe or Terry) and a secondary creator (Anthony or Riller). Reality is we have two big negative contracts and it's gonna take sometime to move them. I also don't think Harden is going anywhere before the season. Houston's owner doesn't want to look anymore like a clown and given what Jrue fetched the price is astronomical right now. Nets don't have what it takes. If you look at when the picks/swaps the bucks traded for Jrue it was an absolute albatross. They got 4 unprotected picks/swaps from 2024-2027. When the bucks might start regressing. Yup i thought the bucks did themselves a disservice cause if Giannis leaves and i think he is going too then they are in a world of hurt giving up those picks and swaps. I wouldn’t have done that type of deal for jrue and i like jrue. Imo It feels like when we look back at the sixers in 10 years the crap show offseason of 2019 where we signed al horford to a dumb contract is going to be the thing that really prohibited what morey and the sixers could do going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20dawk4life Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 29 minutes ago, rambo said: People need patience. Morey and Doc just got here. They have a lot of crap to sort through. I know everybody is clamoring for a huge splash but lets start with getting through the draft tonight. This team needs shooters. Nobody was ****ing about Ben/Joel fit when they were surrounded by legit shooters (JJ, Ersan, Belinelli, etc...). Hope they come out of tonight with a legit shooter (like Joe or Terry) and a secondary creator (Anthony or Riller). Reality is we have two big negative contracts and it's gonna take sometime to move them. I also don't think Harden is going anywhere before the season. Houston's owner doesn't want to look anymore like a clown and given what Jrue fetched the price is astronomical right now. Nets don't have what it takes. If you look at when the picks/swaps the bucks traded for Jrue it was an absolute albatross. They got 4 unprotected picks/swaps from 2024-2027. When the bucks might start regressing. I’d hate to be from Houston right now with the way the Texans and rockets are going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaEagles4Life Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Sources: The Warriors and Bulls have discussed a trade that’d send the second pick in exchange for the fourth pick and Wendell Carter Jr. And old article on Terry bit good read https://www.theringer.com/2020/11/9/21555854/tyrell-terry-nba-draft-lottery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_hunt Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 the nbadraft.net mock has orlando taking cole anthony at pick 15....if that happens, maybe they'll trade fultz back to the sixers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaEagles4Life Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said: Yup i thought the bucks did themselves a disservice cause if Giannis leaves and i think he is going too then they are in a world of hurt giving up those picks and swaps. I wouldn’t have done that type of deal for jrue and i like jrue. Imo It feels like when we look back at the sixers in 10 years the crap show offseason of 2019 where we signed al horford to a dumb contract is going to be the thing that really prohibited what morey and the sixers could do going forward. Getting zero value for Fultz The draft night pick swap to get Fultz Giving up Covington, Saric for Butler then not signing him to an extension Drafting 53 big men in the last 5 years Inability to actually draft nba ready guys instead of projects Knowing Harris isn't worth the max but commuted to him because of the trade. This team needed Morey in the worst way 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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