LaVine is a great target. Right now hes a value at 19.5M for the next 2 seasons. When he is due for a contract, hes only going to be 27. Ideal guy to extend. Not like wondering if we should extend Butler at his age, or like when we were discussing Paul here at his age...

 

9 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

You have Thybulle as your best defender and he is already elite at that. You start looking for those type of dudes and actually have a direction moving forward. 3 and D and a ball handling PG like Conley or Rubio

I think we get an unlocked Embiid. He absolutely could have a 3 5 year run where he is unguardable. Make him the face of the franchise and I think he will feed off of that. 

 

We have no idea how Kryie is going to be. Can he handle even Durant and his ego or is Kyrie best suited for the Magic where he is the man and no one cares in Orlando 

First I would not call thybulle an elite defender. Is he good? yes. And you’re under the assumption they did any trade a team is not going to ask for him. I’m under the assumption some team is going to want him as part of the deal to get that deal done. Elite is a little much. He had trouble in the postseason against Jayson Tatum and brown.o to say he’s elite is a little bit of a stretch. Ben Simmons is a better defender than thybulle is. 

and I don’t disagree that embiid would be even more of a monster. However you’re facing teams that have their own monsters that you’re going to deal with. When you get to the Lakers they have Anthony Davis he’s a neutralizer with that. So you gonna need a guy that could Guard and make LeBron James Life a living hell. Thybulle is not good enough to do that. Ben Simmons is not even good enough to do that but at least he could make life hard on LeBron James over the course of seven games.

even if Kyrie is not there’s some legitimate guys on the team beside Kyrie and Durant. That team has a nice set of wing players that can score and play defense.  add on they could still trade Kyrie Irving and bring in more players or another start with some of the depth that they have on that roster. I don’t think it’s out of the question that the nets attempt to trade kyrie to bring in James Harden with some of the guys they could package with Kyrie Irving

again I think the Sixers would be better but I don’t think you’re winning a title unless you figure out a way to get a third star to go with Embiid and Bradley Beal.

Question. I read people say that Ben and Joel don't work together because they both want to use the same space. So what type of centre then does compliment Ben?

11 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

If we get Lavine and Noel, this team is going to be fun to watch.  

Noel to me is a consolation prize. If we are looking at a LaVine deal, first Id be hoping for Markkanen to be thrown in. Id also take Kornett as a throw in instead. Or Daniel Gafford, their rookie from last year. 

 

Noel is fun for D and Lobs but Im not thrilled about him considering how bad his shot still is. Hopefully we can pull something better in whatever trade we might be working on.

 

Another nice idea would be LaVine and Satoransky, then go ahead and sign Noel.

been hearing a lot about lavine to the sixers on and off..  hopefully it's true.

i really think morey is NOT trying to dump either ben or joel and trying to build around them.

as hinkey noted, sixers did a lot of tanking to just acquire ben and joel.  i think whether we like it or not, they WILL be the cornerstones in a morey build.

or i could be way off and ben/joel will be gone by the end of the week.  i can't predict morey.

Just now, bbabraham said:

Question. I read people say that Ben and Joel don't work together because they both want to use the same space. So what type of centre then does compliment Ben?

A center that is a 3 point shooter. So ben can play the PF spot. The problem is that Joel does that for Ben but it completely wastes Embiid's post ability. 

12 minutes ago, Gannan said:

Why would the Bulls trade Lavine?

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

5 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

again I think the Sixers would be better but I don’t think you’re winning a title unless you figure out a way to get a third star to go with Embiid and Bradley Beal.

Raptors won a title with one star last year. You don't need three anymore. Roster fit is more important 

2 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Raptors won a title with one star last year. You don't need three anymore. Roster fit is more important 

The raptors only won a title cause Durant and klay died that series. Otherwise they lose. Also kawhi Leonard is better than embiid and beal even if those two are together. Also siakam played like a star that postseason. And Fred van fleet was on fire after the sixers series. And their roster actually had depth. The sixers don’t if you deal Simmons and pieces away. 

2 minutes ago, bbabraham said:

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

It just seems strange. Star player on a young team in a major market with cap flexibility. It's literally the situation that young stars want to be in, and Lavine is exactly the type of player a team on the rise like the Bulls wants build around. 

Simmons doesn't have the killer instincts/drive needed to win. Someone who is tentative/insecure in their shot and won't put the time in to fix it just doesn't have it and they are going to regret not moving on from him.

Just now, bbabraham said:

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

not 100% sure. LaVine's name gets brought up each trade deadline and summer for a couple years now. 

Ideas- they wont retain him when his contract expires (but he has 2 seasons left.)

-Hes said to be a bit selfish on offense, and not a great defender. (but I dont think hes a horrible ball hog, and I think his defense is at least ok, especially if he can be motivated). Hes also developed his playmaking ability to where he actually played plenty of PG this year. 

There are some reasons. Both are minor reaches....

I also think the Bulls are right up to the cap limit but arent particularly close to competing. They should really be open to anything. If they can clear some cap and be ready to poince in the Summer of Giannis.... they should. 

 

Just now, Diehardfan said:

Simmons doesn't have the killer instincts/drive needed to win. Someone who is tentative/insecure in their shot and won't put the time in to fix it just doesn't have it and they are going to regret not moving on from him.

He likes living the NBA superstar lifestyle more than he is driven to be a great NBA player. 

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

The raptors only won a title cause Durant and klay died that series. Otherwise they lose. Also kawhi Leonard is better than embiid and beal even if those two are together. Also siakam played like a star that postseason. And Fred van fleet was on fire after the sixers series. And their roster actually had depth. The sixers don’t if you deal Simmons and pieces away. 

But they beat a team with three stars. 

3 minutes ago, Gannan said:

It just seems strange. Star player on a young team in a major market with cap flexibility. It's literally the situation that young stars want to be in, and Lavine is exactly the type of player a team on the rise like the Bulls wants build around. 

I’m assuming the bulls want to clear cap space for the 2021 offseason so they can make a run at pairing two stars together. 

1 minute ago, Gannan said:

It just seems strange. Star player on a young team in a major market with cap flexibility. It's literally the situation that young stars want to be in, and Lavine is exactly the type of player a team on the rise like the Bulls wants build around. 

I think hes a star, but not a cornerstone superstar. I dont think hes a guy they think they should build around. If they can move him to have cap space to get a guy like Giannis thats what they need to do. 

9 minutes ago, bbabraham said:

Question. I read people say that Ben and Joel don't work together because they both want to use the same space. So what type of centre then does compliment Ben?

Porzingis

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’m assuming the bulls want to clear cap space for the 2021 offseason so they can make a run at pairing two stars together. 

yep. Chicago is an attractive franchise for stars. LaVine is really good. But in Chicago they can aim higher when youre talking about a player to build around.

4 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

But they beat a team with three stars. 

What three stars did the warriors have? Klay tore his acl otherwise they might have comeback and won that series. As soon as he did that in game 6 they had 2 if you consider draymond a star. Durant tore his Achilles. Also they had kawhi Leonard who could make curry work for everything. 

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

What three stars did the warriors have? Klay tore his acl otherwise they might have comeback and won that series. As soon as he did that in game 5 they had 2 if you consider draymond a star. Durant tore his Achilles. Also they had kawhi Leonard who could make curry work for everything. 

And Klay got hurt today  

Just now, Agent23 said:

And Klay got hurt today  

He’d fit in with the Philadelphia sports scene 

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

What three stars did the warriors have? Klay tore his acl otherwise they might have comeback and won that series. As soon as he did that in game 6 they had 2 if you consider draymond a star. Durant tore his Achilles. Also they had kawhi Leonard who could make curry work for everything. 

Simmons Embiid Butler 

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’m assuming the bulls want to clear cap space for the 2021 offseason so they can make a run at pairing two stars together. 

This and tank for draft picks. It's not like The Process is an actual new concept. It's just we were as obvious as possible about it. 

Just now, DaEagles4Life said:

Simmons Embiid Butler 

And they were a shot away from winning. And the sixers even with 3 stars couldn’t beat kawhi who’s a top 3 player in the league. So you think with two stars they can stop KD?

Just now, 20dawk4life said:

This and tank for draft picks. It's not like The Process is an actual new concept. It's just we were as obvious as possible about it. 

I mean we're discussions of Warriors 2nd pick for Wendall Carter and 4th pick. 

So they ain't too smart 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

And they were a shot away from winning. And the sixers even with 3 stars couldn’t beat kawhi who’s a top 3 player in the league. So you think with two stars they can stop KD?

Yes, because as I said fit is everything