2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

yeah they already showed it on ESPN. Pick is in. meh... I waited up for Riller and he got snagged 2 picks ahead of us.

Im surprised we didnt sell that pick. Not sure how Paul Reed ever factors in. 

His nbadraft.net comparison is Christian wood lol. 

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Oh i didn’t say what morey did wasn’t the right thing to do. It clearly was with how the season played out. Agreed he’s not done. I don’t think there’s going to be a major move. But some pieces added here and there free agency and trade. 

However it’s still hard to ignore the sixers completely blew a chance last offseason to put themselves into a much better position than they currently sit right now even with morey doing the right thing. 

here's the rub...  without the sixers doing what they did last season..  we prob. don't have morey, doc, and the changes in the f.o. we have today.  if you woulda told me last offseason the loss of jj, jimmy..  suffering through horford and richardson not fitting..  would net me morey, doc, changes in the front office..  and shooters finally being added to the team to surround ben/joel..  i'd prob. take it.

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

His nbadraft.net comparison is Christian wood lol. 

He's a free agent. Should sign him. 

Thought wood was a 7 footer though.  Reed isn't close to that. 

From John Hollinger article in April on the Athletic:

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A tale of two power forwards

Check out the stat line on these two players:

Player A: 27.4 PER; 26.7 pts, 18.8 reb, 2.9 ast, 3.3 st, 4.5 bk per 100; 30.8% on 3s

Player B: 23.3 PER; 28.4 pts, 19.4 reb, 1.7 ast, 2.0 st, 3.4 bk per 100; 32.5% on 3s

It’s close, but Player A’s line is superior. Player A also played a harder schedule — the nation’s 28^th most difficult schedule, according to KenPom, while Player B played the 80^th toughest schedule.

These two are similar beyond stats: Both are the same size, although Player B is a bit thicker in the shoulders and might be five pounds heavier, and they reported the same wingspan. They’re also the same age.

They play similarly too, profiling as almost exactly the same type of player — a highly switchable, multi-positional defensive weapon with offensive question marks centered on iffy shooting and a questionable handle and feel.

Believe it or not, Player B is seen as a lottery pick by many, while Player A is universally pegged as a late second-rounder.

This makes no sense.

If you haven’t figured it out by now, Player A is DePaul’s Paul Reed. And Player B? That is Memphis’s Precious Achiuwa.

 

continued:

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I’m guessing that much of the perception difference between the two is that Achiuwa is a one-and-done and Reed is a junior. Reed, indeed, is older than Achiuwa … by three whole months. They both will be 21 on opening night. The biggest "difference” between the two is an insignificant one.

Meanwhile, let’s talk about defense, since that’s the main selling point of each. Achiuwa is indeed quite good at this end. But Reed is a freaking beast. I don’t think you need to devour tape 24/7 to conclude that Reed is a superior defender; though both players can harass guards effectively with their long arms and lateral quickness, Reed is the better of the two and his fast hands are a game-changer. The numbers back it up too: He had the highest steal rate of any significant draft prospect at any position, despite playing inside on a terrible team that rarely left him in position to succeed.

Reed, incidentally, had little to do with his team’s woes. As our Sam Vecenie recently noted, DePaul outscored opponents by 7 points per 100 possessions when he played … and got rocked by 22 per 100 when he sat.

To be clear: I like both of these guys. They are extremely similar and both should go in the first round. But to the extent you can divine any differences, all the advantages point to Reed. That makes it really odd that he appears about 40 spots lower on draft boards.

This is the biggest point of cognitive dissonance in the draft right now. Personally, I will have Reed a few spots higher than Achiuwa on my final board.

 

Just now, JayEcho said:

here's the rub...  without the sixers doing what they did last season..  we prob. don't have morey, doc, and the changes in the f.o. we have today.  if you woulda told me last offseason the loss of jj, jimmy..  suffering through horford and richardson not fitting..  would net me morey, doc, changes in the front office..  and shooters finally being added to the team to surround ben/joel..  i'd prob. take it.

 that’s one way to look at it. and I’m not saying you are wrong at all and there’s plenty of truth in it  

But to me if they would’ve ran it back with the same team the year before you might’ve made the NBA finals with how everything played itself out in the East. I don’t even think it’s a question the 76ers with the roster that lost to the raptors would have been the best team in the East or at least second assuming Ben didn’t get hurt twice. (I only says this based off what i was told happened with the sixers FO/ownership and butler)

And if they failed miserably likely having change at coach and I’m guessing if morey left the rockets they still go after him. 

76ers get: Danny Green, Terrance Ferguson

Thunder get: Al Horford, draft rights to Vasilije Micic, 2020 No. 34 pick (Theo Maledon), protected 2025 first-round pick

 

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Philadelphia 76ers: A-

We knew there would be trades with Daryl Morey taking over as Philadelphia's president of basketball operations. I still didn't think he could move Al Horford this quickly or this cheaply.

The book is now closed on Horford's brief, disappointing stint with the Sixers. I get what the Sixers were thinking when they signed him. Horford would be insurance for Joel Embiid after Philadelphia had collapsed with Embiid on the bench in the 2019 playoff loss to the Toronto Raptors, then also provide value playing next to Embiid as a power forward. The latter idea simply never worked out.

Lineups with Horford and Embiid last season were outscored and ranked in the 10th percentile among all lineups offensively, according to Cleaning the Glass. In practice, there just wasn't enough floor spacing with Embiid, Horford and Ben Simmons all on the court despite Horford's ability to shoot the 3. And of those three, Horford was clearly the odd man out. Horford still had value to the 76ers as a backup center but not enough to justify a $27.5 million salary for a team deep in the luxury tax.

The first, most obvious benefit of this deal is indeed financial. The Sixers were set to start the offseason a minimum of $17.2 million into the luxury tax before attempting to fill out the roster or upgrade it. Taking back Green ($15.4 million) and Ferguson ($3.9 million) cuts that down to $8.2 million, and also breaks it into smaller chunks that could more easily be moved in the future. Trading Ferguson, Mike Scott ($5.0 million) and Zhaire Smith ($3.2 million) would get Philadelphia at least temporarily out of the tax without appreciably harming the team's rotation.

In the long term, the savings could be bigger. Green and Ferguson are both on expiring contracts, while Horford is due $27 million in 2021-22 and has $14.5 million of his $26.5 million salary for 2022-23 guaranteed. Although the Sixers could have stretched that guaranteed portion, it still would have left Horford on the team's books for years.

Above and beyond that, the 76ers might have gotten a better fit in Green. Another 3-and-D wing fits the bill for Philadelphia, which can never have enough shooting or defenders with size. If the Sixers get anything like the 45.5% 3-point shooting Green posted two seasons ago for the Toronto Raptors, they'll have come out ahead both on the court and financially in this deal.

After all, replacing Horford as a backup center should be doable for Philly using the taxpayer midlevel exception. Already, fans were buzzing about Sam Hinkie-era 76ers center Nerlens Noel posting a Facebook message last week that said, "Cant wait to be back" (sic) with a photo of him in a Philadelphia uniform. My ESPN colleague Tim MacMahon has indicated that Noel was one center Morey's Houston Rockets were considering acquiring at the trade deadline after giving up starter Clint Capela, so the dots would connect.

Given all that, I think giving up a first-round pick my colleague Adrian Wojnarowski reports is "lightly protected" in 2025, this year's No. 34 pick (one of four Philadelphia held in the second round) and the rights to Micic is a reasonable price.

 

76ers get: Seth Curry

Mavericks get: Josh Richardson, 2020 No. 36 pick (Tyler Bey)

 

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Philadelphia 76ers: B

Daryl Morey's goal during his first offseason running the 76ers' basketball operations is clear: upgrade the team's shooting. After adding 40% career 3-point shooter Danny Green in a swap for Al Horfordearlier Wednesday, Philadelphia has now acquired one of the NBA's best pure shooters: Curry's 44% career 3-point accuracy ranks second in NBA history among qualifying players, per Basketball-Reference.com.

Offensively, Curry looks like an ideal fit for the Sixers. With 6-foot-10 Ben Simmons and 6-foot-5 Shake Milton as its primary ball handlers, Philadelphia can afford to have the undersized Curry (6-foot-2) space the court in an off-ball role.

There's a trade-off at the defensive end of the court. The past couple of seasons, the 76ers prized collecting as much size and physical skills as possible, which caused the smaller Toronto Raptorsproblems during their seven-game series in the 2019 conference semifinals. By contrast, Curry's small stature for a shooting guard is why he has primarily been a reserve during his NBA career.

On the plus side, Philadelphia did need someone to match up with opposing point guards, who caused the team's bigger defenders problems at times last season. And Curry's on/off numbers on defense haven't been especially weak. Still, Richardson has generally been considered the better player of the two. So why were the Sixers willing to give up a second-round pick in this deal?

Aside from shooting, Curry's contract was probably especially appealing for Philadelphia. While Richardson can become an unrestricted free agent next summer if he declines an $11.6 million player option, Curry is signed up through 2022-23 at a reasonable average of $8.2 million per season. Both the long-term cost certainty and the slight savings from Richardson have value to a Sixers team in the luxury tax.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2020-nba-draft-grades-pick-by-pick-results-tracker-and-analysis-for-completed-rounds-1-and-2/

21. Philadelphia 76ers (via OKC): SG Tyrese Maxey, Kentucky

I'm not sure I love Philadelphia adding another non-shooter because Maxey was inefficient beyond the arc at Kentucky. But NBA scouts and people at Kentucky believe he can improve on that skill in time. But he can really play basketball and had some big games, and if he solves that shooting issue, he'll be a good player. And he was the second-best player on my big board. Grade: B+

49. Philadelphia 76ers: SG Isaiah Joe, Arkansas

He's a great catch-and-shoot threat with deep range who was regarded as one of the best shooters in college hoops before a down sophomore season. Had him as a top-25 talent so the 76ers are getting a steal. Grade: A

58. Philadelphia 76ers (via LAL): PF Paul Reed, DePaul

Daryl Morey does it again, selecting an analytics darling who somehow slipped to No. 58. Reed averaged a double-double last season but profiles as an all-around defensive weapon with great size and untapped scoring potential. Grade: A-

from the athletic:

Pick: 21 | Team: 76ers (from OKC) | Player: Tyrese Maxey | 6-3 guard | 200 | 19, freshman | Kentucky

Vecenie’s scouting report: The role where he’ll work best is as the nominal point guard, where he can defend at the point of attack and work to space the floor and create plays out of advantageous situations as a scorer. I don’t really think Maxey quite has the burst to consistently break down defenders in the way he needs to play as a primary. But he has real value if he can play off of someone.

Ranking: No. 14

Hollinger’s team fit: I thought Maxey was a bit overrated at Kentucky, and contrary to recent belief not all Kentucky players blow up in the NBA. He’s a combo guard who needs to shoot better as a pro than he did in his one college season, especially on this team. He should be solid defensively, though.

I would have picked…
Vecenie: Maxey| Hollinger: Theo Maledon

https://www.si.com/nba/2020/11/18/2020-nba-draft-tracker-live-analysis

21. Philadelphia 76ers (via Thunder): Tyrese Maxey, SG, Kentucky

Maxey could end up as one of the better value picks in this draft, falling out of the teens to a nice, cushy landing spot in Philadelphia. As a capable defender and undersized two-guard who needs to learn to play away from the ball, it’s hard to think of a better situation for him than playing alongside an oversized, brilliant playmaker like Ben Simmons. Some scouts viewed him as a talent with lottery-level upside, and the Sixers will hope he’s the next Kentucky product to take a major leap at the NBA level. He’ll have time to learn how to fit in and should benefit from landing in a competitive situation immediately. Maxey will begin as a role player for Philly, but could be an outstanding bench piece and potential starter in time.

https://www.si.com/nba/2020/11/19/2020-nba-draft-winners-losers
LOSERS

Elton Brand

Tough night for Brand, whose new boss, Daryl Morey, began to unwind some of the moves Brand made last offseason, first by attaching two picks to Horford to get Horford’s contract off the books—acquiring Danny Green and Terrance Ferguson in the, gulp, process—and then moving Josh Richardson and a second-round pick to Dallas for Seth Curry. They were smart deals; Green and Curry are proven shooters, while Ferguson is an interesting young talent. Morey doubled down on shooting in the second round, grabbing Arkansas sharpshooter Isaiah Joe. Philadelphia lacked balance offensively last season. It’s an issue Morey has immediately addressed. 
 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2918185-2020-nba-draft-live-grades-for-every-pick

No. 21 Pick: Tyrese Maxey, Philadelphia 76ers

21 OF 55

 

Sam Craft/Associated Press

The Philadelphia 76ers need to maximize their spacing around Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid. They should’ve taken a step toward that with the selection of Tyrese Maxey even if the stat sheet disagrees about that.

Maxey looks the part of a spacer—or at least a better shooter than his 29.2 three-point percentage would lead you to believe. His form is compact and repeatable, and it surfaced in both deep threes and at the foul line (83.3 percent), the latter of which often points to long-term potential.

He's a tough-shot-maker, in part because he doesn't have the burst or dizzying dribble moves to shake defenders out of their shorts. He's built like a combo guard (6'3", 198 lbs), but his passing must perk up to play that role.

Defensively, he's a coach's dream. He'll never get outworked at that end, and he uses his length (6'6" wingspan) and instincts to keep players in front of him.

Wasserman likened Maxey to former Sixer and super-sub extraordinaire Lou Williams. If the incoming rookie can provide that level of shot-making, Philly will have aced this selection.

Grade: B+

No. 49 Pick: Isaiah Joe, Philadelphia 76ers

49 OF 55

 

Michael Woods/Associated Press

For the second time in as many picks, the Philadelphia 76ers might have found another floor spacer, this time with Arkansas’ Isaiah Joe.

For a shooting specialist, Joe's conversion rates during his sophomore season at Arkansas might sound alarm sirens for some (36.7 percent from the field, 34.2 percent from outside). Others, though, viewed them like a coupon discounting one of the draft's top snipers.

"A drop in shooting percentages hurt Isaiah Joe's stock, making him one of the best value picks of 2020," Wasserman wrote. "He still buried threes at a ridiculous rate with picturesque mechanics and fluidity."

Joe's offensive bag features every long-range look in the book. He can full-speed sprint around a screen and immediately catch-and-launch, or he can find his own shots by dribbling into step-backs and pull-ups.

The Sixers shouldn’t ask him to do much more offensively than shoot, so it's imperative he increases his strength so as not to become a target at the defensive end. 

Grade: A-

 

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/nba-draft-tracker-2020-results-grades/1w47g0g2gp7vn135c36pql7wvp

21. 76ers (via Thunder) — Tyrese Maxey, Kentucky, Guard

Maxey can create offense off the dribble and is excellent as an on-ball defender. While his 3-point numbers at Kentucky weren't inspiring, Maxey's form isn't disastrous, and he has looked comfortable on pull-up jumpers.

Philadelphia must have been pleasantly surprised Maxey was available at No. 21. It's a terrific fit.

Grade: A

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2020-nba-draft-grades-pick-by-pick-results-tracker-and-analysis-for-completed-rounds-1-and-2/

21. Philadelphia 76ers (via OKC): SG Tyrese Maxey, Kentucky

I'm not sure I love Philadelphia adding another non-shooter because Maxey was inefficient beyond the arc at Kentucky. But NBA scouts and people at Kentucky believe he can improve on that skill in time. But he can really play basketball and had some big games, and if he solves that shooting issue, he'll be a good player. And he was the second-best player on my big board. Grade: B+

49. Philadelphia 76ers: SG Isaiah Joe, Arkansas

He's a great catch-and-shoot threat with deep range who was regarded as one of the best shooters in college hoops before a down sophomore season. Had him as a top-25 talent so the 76ers are getting a steal. Grade: A

58. Philadelphia 76ers (via LAL): PF Paul Reed, DePaul

Daryl Morey does it again, selecting an analytics darling who somehow slipped to No. 58. Reed averaged a double-double last season but profiles as an all-around defensive weapon with great size and untapped scoring potential. Grade: A-

from the athletic:

Pick: 21 | Team: 76ers (from OKC) | Player: Tyrese Maxey | 6-3 guard | 200 | 19, freshman | Kentucky

Vecenie’s scouting report: The role where he’ll work best is as the nominal point guard, where he can defend at the point of attack and work to space the floor and create plays out of advantageous situations as a scorer. I don’t really think Maxey quite has the burst to consistently break down defenders in the way he needs to play as a primary. But he has real value if he can play off of someone.

Ranking: No. 14

Hollinger’s team fit: I thought Maxey was a bit overrated at Kentucky, and contrary to recent belief not all Kentucky players blow up in the NBA. He’s a combo guard who needs to shoot better as a pro than he did in his one college season, especially on this team. He should be solid defensively, though.

I would have picked…
Vecenie: Maxey| Hollinger: Theo Maledon

https://www.si.com/nba/2020/11/18/2020-nba-draft-tracker-live-analysis

21. Philadelphia 76ers (via Thunder): Tyrese Maxey, SG, Kentucky

Maxey could end up as one of the better value picks in this draft, falling out of the teens to a nice, cushy landing spot in Philadelphia. As a capable defender and undersized two-guard who needs to learn to play away from the ball, it’s hard to think of a better situation for him than playing alongside an oversized, brilliant playmaker like Ben Simmons. Some scouts viewed him as a talent with lottery-level upside, and the Sixers will hope he’s the next Kentucky product to take a major leap at the NBA level. He’ll have time to learn how to fit in and should benefit from landing in a competitive situation immediately. Maxey will begin as a role player for Philly, but could be an outstanding bench piece and potential starter in time.

https://www.si.com/nba/2020/11/19/2020-nba-draft-winners-losers
LOSERS

Elton Brand

Tough night for Brand, whose new boss, Daryl Morey, began to unwind some of the moves Brand made last offseason, first by attaching two picks to Horford to get Horford’s contract off the books—acquiring Danny Green and Terrance Ferguson in the, gulp, process—and then moving Josh Richardson and a second-round pick to Dallas for Seth Curry. They were smart deals; Green and Curry are proven shooters, while Ferguson is an interesting young talent. Morey doubled down on shooting in the second round, grabbing Arkansas sharpshooter Isaiah Joe. Philadelphia lacked balance offensively last season. It’s an issue Morey has immediately addressed. 
 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2918185-2020-nba-draft-live-grades-for-every-pick

No. 21 Pick: Tyrese Maxey, Philadelphia 76ers

21 OF 55

 

Sam Craft/Associated Press

The Philadelphia 76ers need to maximize their spacing around Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid. They should’ve taken a step toward that with the selection of Tyrese Maxey even if the stat sheet disagrees about that.

Maxey looks the part of a spacer—or at least a better shooter than his 29.2 three-point percentage would lead you to believe. His form is compact and repeatable, and it surfaced in both deep threes and at the foul line (83.3 percent), the latter of which often points to long-term potential.

He's a tough-shot-maker, in part because he doesn't have the burst or dizzying dribble moves to shake defenders out of their shorts. He's built like a combo guard (6'3", 198 lbs), but his passing must perk up to play that role.

Defensively, he's a coach's dream. He'll never get outworked at that end, and he uses his length (6'6" wingspan) and instincts to keep players in front of him.

Wasserman likened Maxey to former Sixer and super-sub extraordinaire Lou Williams. If the incoming rookie can provide that level of shot-making, Philly will have aced this selection.

Grade: B+

No. 49 Pick: Isaiah Joe, Philadelphia 76ers

49 OF 55

 

Michael Woods/Associated Press

For the second time in as many picks, the Philadelphia 76ers might have found another floor spacer, this time with Arkansas’ Isaiah Joe.

For a shooting specialist, Joe's conversion rates during his sophomore season at Arkansas might sound alarm sirens for some (36.7 percent from the field, 34.2 percent from outside). Others, though, viewed them like a coupon discounting one of the draft's top snipers.

"A drop in shooting percentages hurt Isaiah Joe's stock, making him one of the best value picks of 2020," Wasserman wrote. "He still buried threes at a ridiculous rate with picturesque mechanics and fluidity."

Joe's offensive bag features every long-range look in the book. He can full-speed sprint around a screen and immediately catch-and-launch, or he can find his own shots by dribbling into step-backs and pull-ups.

The Sixers shouldn’t ask him to do much more offensively than shoot, so it's imperative he increases his strength so as not to become a target at the defensive end. 

Grade: A-

 

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/nba-draft-tracker-2020-results-grades/1w47g0g2gp7vn135c36pql7wvp

21. 76ers (via Thunder) — Tyrese Maxey, Kentucky, Guard

Maxey can create offense off the dribble and is excellent as an on-ball defender. While his 3-point numbers at Kentucky weren't inspiring, Maxey's form isn't disastrous, and he has looked comfortable on pull-up jumpers.

Philadelphia must have been pleasantly surprised Maxey was available at No. 21. It's a terrific fit.

Grade: A

So they spent the night trying to undo the Brand mistakes, but he still got a contract extension. Makes sense

 

Is that Sixers trade a good one?

8 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

at 6'3'' hes undersized for a SG. usually you get away with that by being a great shooter at that position. Hes not. And hes got a low release on top of lacking the height. This is going to be a project. 

Well yea it's the backend of the NBA draft, they're all projects. 

Not really liking the Curry trade. We gave up our starting SG and a draft pick for a backup SG. Did Docs daughter just want the family together and the FO said ok? 

 

horford was an awful fit with an awful contract....getting rid of him for 2 expiring contracts is a win. yeah, giving up a future 1st sucks but we all knew they'd have to give up something of value to get a team to take on that contract. 

richardson was a bad fit last season...not a shooter...not a playmaker...and he's gone at the end of this season. getting a guy like curry who is a knock down 3 point shooter on a very team friendly contract is great. 

i'm sure they're not finished yet but they did a really good job yesterday, imo. 

 

Yup. Very solid, logical start to Morey’s long term plan

8 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

horford was an awful fit with an awful contract....getting rid of him for 2 expiring contracts is a win. yeah, giving up a future 1st sucks but we all knew they'd have to give up something of value to get a team to take on that contract. 

richardson was a bad fit last season...not a shooter...not a playmaker...and he's gone at the end of this season. getting a guy like curry who is a knock down 3 point shooter on a very team friendly contract is great. 

i'm sure they're not finished yet but they did a really good job yesterday, imo. 

 

dude, what a difference from my feeling last year. 

 

btw, horford's sister is a whiny funhole. 

Feel asleep before the 2nd round picks and after reading more about them it fits holes the team has. Reed can play small ball 5 or or 4 off the bench and they got a knockdown shooter. 

16 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

horford was an awful fit with an awful contract....getting rid of him for 2 expiring contracts is a win. yeah, giving up a future 1st sucks but we all knew they'd have to give up something of value to get a team to take on that contract. 

richardson was a bad fit last season...not a shooter...not a playmaker...and he's gone at the end of this season. getting a guy like curry who is a knock down 3 point shooter on a very team friendly contract is great. 

i'm sure they're not finished yet but they did a really good job yesterday, imo. 

 

Moves look disappointing in a vacuum but it was some necessary cleaning up Morey had to do.

Gotta realize now, we have a bunch of mid value contracts if we potential find a big deal to make. 

We didn't have that before.  Assets have just been accumulated.

Shooting has been added.

Roster is not complete but rondo and Noel on vet mins, plus an MLE signing would make the team look really realy good now. 

14 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

horford was an awful fit with an awful contract....getting rid of him for 2 expiring contracts is a win. yeah, giving up a future 1st sucks but we all knew they'd have to give up something of value to get a team to take on that contract. 

richardson was a bad fit last season...not a shooter...not a playmaker...and he's gone at the end of this season. getting a guy like curry who is a knock down 3 point shooter on a very team friendly contract is great. 

i'm sure they're not finished yet but they did a really good job yesterday, imo. 

 

Yup.  After the initial shock wore off with the Horford trade, I was happy.  We have some flexibility back and got legit veteran shooters which was definitely needed.  Picked up a combo guard, shooter and analytic darling PF in the draft.  Watched a workout video of Maxey last night...dude is Fing cut and his shot doesn't look broken.  I didn't even look into him before the draft since most had him going before us.

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

Moves look disappointing in a vacuum but it was some necessary cleaning up Morey had to do.

Gotta realize now, we have a bunch of mid value contracts if we potential find a big deal to make. 

We didn't have that before.  Assets have just been accumulated.

Shooting has been added.

Roster is not complete but rondo and Noel on vet mins, plus an MLE signing would make the team look really realy good now. 

Rondo isnt taking the vet minimum. Have read he is using the Hawks to get a bigger deal from the Clippers 

Just now, rambo said:

Yup.  After the initial shock wore off with the Horford trade, I was happy.  We have some flexibility back and got legit veteran shooters which was definitely needed.  Picked up a combo guard, shooter and analytic darling PF in the draft.  Watched a workout video of Maxey last night...dude is Fing cut and his shot doesn't look broken.  I didn't even look into him before the draft since most had him going before us.

I have been on the Maxey bandwagon for a while. Team has too many guys that are just good at one thing and Maxey being a guard that can handle the ball, slash, play good defense, break a man off the dribble, and not afraid of big moments ala his stats improved vs Top 15 teams. 

everyone who watches the nba knows that you need to surround ben & jo with shooters.  brand surrounded them with horford & richardson. 

morey is correcting those mistakes. 

2 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

everyone who watches the nba knows that you need to surround ben & jo with shooters.  brand surrounded them with horford & richardson. 

morey is correcting those mistakes. 

Which is what I was saying yesterday.  Nobody was complaining about Ben and Joel fit when they were surrounded by shooters and won like 20 straight to end that season.

Mentally I'm now expecting Ben to stay. Maybe I'm naive but Doc's comments just made me think Ben's staying.

On that basis, it's imperative that spacing improve to help Ben and Joel. On paper, we've done that. Both with some vets and some draft picks. Let's hope some of them pan out.

We've also taken the medicine we had to to get Al and Josh off the books. Sucks to lose the picks but you take your punishment for past crimes.

So on paper this is a reasonable base to start from. Heading in the right direction. I'm wondering where you would like to take it from here? That can be specific players or types of players. Are we missing any roles or do we just want to try and upgrade what we currently have in those roles?

3 minutes ago, bbabraham said:

Mentally I'm now expecting Ben to stay. Maybe I'm naive but Doc's comments just made me think Ben's staying.

On that basis, it's imperative that spacing improve to help Ben and Joel. On paper, we've done that. Both with some vets and some draft picks. Let's hope some of them pan out.

We've also taken the medicine we had to to get Al and Josh off the books. Sucks to lose the picks but you take your punishment for past crimes.

So on paper this is a reasonable base to start from. Heading in the right direction. I'm wondering where you would like to take it from here? That can be specific players or types of players. Are we missing any roles or do we just want to try and upgrade what we currently have in those roles?

You hope a 2025 1st round pick is in the mid to late 20s and the time to win is now.