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4 hours ago, Mat said:

This is unfortunately behind a paywall for me

He had a kid and has matured is the gist of it

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52 minutes ago, toughfighter83 said:

aliright then enjoy seeing the sixers turning into the 2001 team and 2011 pretank team because until we get another 30 point scorer for embiid, we are not going to win a championship with embiid doing it all.

Yeah cause Harden is just winning titles left and right...

James Harden is a "Me first”, selfish player whose style does NOT lead to winning titles. 

Yeah, hard pass on 

37ppg, 1 steal, 11 assists, 5 rebounds, 89FT% on 12 attempts, 45% from 3 on 11 attempts

Let's keep the guy because these are championship numbers 

13ppg, 1.6 steals, 6 assists, 9 rebounds, 61FT% on 6 attempts, and 100% from 3 on on 1 attempt this entire year

 

4 minutes ago, nipples said:

Yeah cause Harden is just winning titles left and right...

James Harden is a "Me first”, selfish player whose style does NOT lead to winning titles. 

Yeah because 9.2 assists for Harden over the last 5 years vs Simmons averaging 7.9 assists a game in his career is selfish. 

Sure sounds like me first. 

1 minute ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Yeah because 9.2 assists for Harden over the last 5 years vs Simmons averaging 7.9 assists a game in his career is selfish. 

Sure sounds like me first. 

We get it. You’re the ultimate Harden fanboy. I’d wager money that the dude will never win a ring 

2 hours ago, Ace Nova said:

Thank goodness.  They were showing his stats last night on ESPN and he's way down in all categories.  

This is false 

 

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3 minutes ago, nipples said:

We get it. You’re the ultimate Harden fanboy. I’d wager money that the dude will never win a ring 

I'm not, but to think this is a championship contenders with Simmons is outrageous. 

He might not but he absolutely gives the team a Chance. 

He took this team to 7 games vs Klay, Durant, Steph, and Green. With Chris Paul hurt half the series. 

So stop this nonsense he can't carry a team. 

He has a owner that refuses to go into the luxury tax and truly compete with the big boys. That was a huge disadvantage for Morey and hamstrung to compete. 

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46 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

This is false 

 

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I'm not, but to think this is a championship contenders with Simmons is outrageous. 

He might not but he absolutely gives the team a Chance. 

Who said anything about Simmons? My point is Simmons is a loser but so is Harden. No point in that trade.
 

You try to deal Simmons instead for other players/picks that would help more than a ball hogging Harden. 

10 minutes ago, nipples said:

Who said anything about Simmons? My point is Simmons is a loser but so is Harden. No point in that trade.
 

You try to deal Simmons instead for other players/picks that would help more than a ball hogging Harden. 

9 assists a game over the last 5 years and top 10 all those years. Not to mention his ISO averages over 1.17 point per possession which is highest in the NBA. Stats and advanced analytics mean nothing, over your eye. 

So lets hear who you want, you cant get young talent that needs to develop because wasting Embiid prime years. No other team is trading their stars and getting 3 guys of lesser talent never works out. 

To think Harden doesn't make them legit title contenders is hilarious and a dumb take with Embiid playing like an MVP. 

18 minutes ago, nipples said:

Who said anything about Simmons? My point is Simmons is a loser but so is Harden. No point in that trade.
 

You try to deal Simmons instead for other players/picks that would help more than a ball hogging Harden. 

Who are these other players and picks that are going to help this current team more than Harden?

 

like it or not, our best and likely only chance to win a title in the next 2-3 years is by acquiring Harden. 

1 hour ago, nipples said:

Yeah cause Harden is just winning titles left and right...

James Harden is a "Me first”, selfish player whose style does NOT lead to winning titles. 

you cant just wait until a steph curry or lebron james type of player that wins championships comes available by that time embiid could be broken down we will have to tank again. look at the celtics when they won a championship in 08, the  superstar players they added won nothing from those teams, because they were the only stars on those teams, they werent surrounded by other stars.

harden is having the same issues like what embiid is going through now, it's only him and no one else. you wont win championships like that, look at AI.

26 minutes ago, toughfighter83 said:

you cant just wait until a steph curry or lebron james type of player that wins championships comes available by that time embiid could be broken down we will have to tank again. look at the celtics when they won a championship in 08, the  superstar players they added won nothing from those teams, because they were the only stars on those teams, they werent surrounded by other stars.

harden is having the same issues like what embiid is going through now, it's only him and no one else. you wont win championships like that, look at AI.

Morey built a pretty good roster in Houston. That’s why they were good.  Acting like Harden has been doing everything himself there is idiotic.

17 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

Morey built a pretty good roster in Houston. That’s why they were good.  Acting like Harden has been doing everything himself there is idiotic.

if they are good, build a non-harden trade package that looks good for Simmons?

I have a hard time finding anyone Id want other than Harden on that roster. 

House is ok... Tucker is ok... who else? Its not a good roster. 

11 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

if they are good, build a non-harden trade package that looks good for Simmons?

I have a hard time finding anyone Id want other than Harden on that roster. 

House is ok... Tucker is ok... who else? Its not a good roster. 

They’re not good this year.  Which is part of the reason Harden can go off for 44 points and also have 17 assists in a game.  Within the last few years though they were a 65-win team.  You knew that, right?

Harden for Simmons makes no sense.  We'd be gaining maybe 10 or so PPG but likely giving up that many or more...Harden doesn't play defense...like zero.  And from what I hear, he's not really a "team player"...basically pads his scoring stats.


 

6 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

They’re not good this year.  Which is part of the reason Harden can go off for 44 points and also have 17 assists in a game.  Within the last few years though they were a 65-win team.  You knew that, right?

I know that Harden has made them better. 

4 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Harden for Simmons makes no sense.  We'd be gaining maybe 10 or so PPG but likely giving up that many or more...Harden doesn't play defense...like zero.  And from what I hear, he's not really a "team player"...basically pads his scoring stats.


 

thats said about great scorers. It was said about Kobe forever too. 

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

I know that Harden has made them better. 

thats said about great scorers. It was said about Kobe forever too. 

Maybe but Kobe won rings...Harden hasn't won anything. 

And in your opinion, how much would we gain by his scoring?  Enough to compensate for losing Simmons' elite defense?  I doubt it.  And Simmons is 7 years younger. 

 

5 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Harden for Simmons makes no sense.  We'd be gaining maybe 10 or so PPG but likely giving up that many or more...Harden doesn't play defense...like zero.  And from what I hear, he's not really a "team player"...basically pads his scoring stats.


 

Ohhhhh from what you hear hahahaha 

This narrative he doesnt play defense is stupid. He has become an average defender at his position and is really good at defense in the post because of his lower body strength. 

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-nba-player-ratings/

Harden 19 WAR

Simmons 5.3 WAR

But you know a difference of 14 wins sure is the same. 

 

2 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Maybe but Kobe won rings...Harden hasn't won anything. 

And in your opinion, how much would we gain by his scoring?  Enough to compensate for losing Simmons' elite defense?  I doubt it.  And Simmons is 7 years younger. 

 

Who cares about age when the window with Embiid is probably a couple of years. 

Simmons defensive win share last 2 years 3.6 and 3.1. While averaging 1.9 blocks 1.9 steals and 4.2 turnovers per 36 last year 

Harden defense win share is 3.8 and 3.2. Averaged .9 blocks and 1.8 steals with 4.5 turnovers per 36.

36 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I know that Harden has made them better. 

thats said about great scorers. It was said about Kobe forever too. 

Yes and even kobe said Harden won't win with the way he plays. 

33 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Yes and even kobe said Harden won't win with the way he plays. 

Because Harden is coming to Philly without help. Oh wait, Embiid is still on the Sixers. 

Kobe couldn't win one without a HoF big man either 

 

Terrible. Do not want. 

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

 

Terrible. Do not want. 

Assists don't count here because he is a ball hog

You see that pick n roll action? Him and Embiid would be absolutely unstoppable. 

Illustrates where we rank in defense and offense compared to the rest of the league.

 

Kinda proves we can lose a little in D and still be really good on D. Yet reallly need offense. 

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