1 minute ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Disagree. Beal is a professional scorer and I would start Thybulle next to Joel. Would be a big upgrade offensively 

thats a no for me dawg. 3 players isnt enough these days. 

You better have a ridiculous 4 or 5, or insane depth. 

 

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

No it doesnt. 

its not even as good as Ben, Tobi, Embiid, and Harden. Because in that scenario they didnt have to trade away Tobi who is a massive piece of our team. 

We dont even have any other backup 4 on this team when Mike Scott expires after thei season. With Tobi gone, who even plays there next year? A rookie? a vet min guy like Ilyasova?

 

Ben was getting traded for Harden so your four horseman was never a realistic option. 

To remotely think Harris is on the same lvl as Beal is kind of laughable. 

10 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

I agree.  I would make smaller moves without depleting our young assets.  But I would rather take Lowry than those two because that is a go for it all scenario that I like much better than Gordon and Fournier.

I view it more this way if the sixers did it. My lineup i can go with Simmons, Fournier, Gordon, harris and embiid. Move curry to the bench. So i also upgrade my bench and starting unit. Then i have curry, shake, Dwight. Use the buyout market add someone like jj and i still have my trade exception to use. 

basically 

starters:

simmons

fournier

gordon (i think he can play 3. I’ve seen him do it for Arizona and Orlando)

harris

embiid

 

bench:

curry 

shake

dwight

trade exception acquisition 

buyout— jj

furkan 

to me that is a pretty damn good roster. 

 

im not saying let’s just jump all in and do it. But i can see that team being very good. Furthermore i could eventually use fournier and Gordon to make a trade to matchup salaries for another star or players to bring in if it doesn’t work  

that said it’s not happening so it doesn’t really matter. 

Just now, DaEagles4Life said:

He scored 31 points on 10/18 and 5/12 from 3 last night with 6 assists. He is a scorer and okay defender. 

i checked his stats...looks like he's the 2nd option on orlando with only nick v. putting up more shot attempts. i mean...if they could trade defense (green) for offense (fournier)...and it could possibly work since they'd still have thybulle when they need a defensive stopper...in addition to ben of course. 

 

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

No it doesnt. 

its not even as good as Ben, Tobi, Embiid, and Harden. Because in that scenario they didnt have to trade away Tobi who is a massive piece of our team. 

We dont even have any other backup 4 on this team when Mike Scott expires after thei season. With Tobi gone, who even plays there next year? A rookie? a vet min guy like Ilyasova?

 

harden? 

i'm talking reality.  beal is a lot better than harris. and they'd make additional moves to fill the pf spot rather than just give mike f'n scott all those minutes.     

 

Just now, DaEagles4Life said:

Nige

Ben was getting traded for Harden so your four horseman was never a realistic option 

Initially, the rumor was that the 6ers felt they could do it without parting with ben.

In the end, they were going there. But Ben also really, really sucked at that time. And, the offense would still be better with Beal, Tobi, and Embiid next year if you wanted Beal.

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

Initially, the rumor was that the 6ers felt they could do it without parting with ben.

In the end, they were going there. But Ben also really, really sucked at that time. And, the offense would still be better with Beal, Tobi, and Embiid next year if you wanted Beal.

Ben was told to pack his bags until the Rockets owner said no. 

1 minute ago, mr_hunt said:

i checked his stats...looks like he's the 2nd option on orlando with only nick v. putting up more shot attempts. i mean...if they could trade defense (green) for offense (fournier)...and it could possibly work since they'd still have thybulle when they need a defensive stopper...in addition to ben of course. 

 

harden? 

i'm talking reality.  beal is a lot better than harris. and they'd make additional moves to fill the pf spot rather than just give mike f'n scott all those minutes.     

 

No kidding. Follow along. Mike Scott would be gone. Youre talking about next year. His contract expires after this year. And Id like to hear who is actually going to play there with Tobi and Scott gone, and no cap space.

1 minute ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Ben was told to pack his bags until the Rockets owner said no. 

yes I know. In the end it came to that. Prior to that they said the 6ers felt confident they could get Harden without including Ben. 

And hell no on Aaron Gordon. Dude is on the list of never improving his game. Right besides Andrew Wiggins, 

His per 36 shows zero improvement and up until this year his 3 point shot was trash. 

in your make believe scenario, they would make additional moves to get a pf. they wouldn't need maxey, shake, kork, & curry if they had beal. you think they'd just roll out a vet min guy or a rook?    

silly time is over. let's see if there's any real news this evening. 

 

 

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

No kidding. Follow along. Mike Scott would be gone. Youre talking about next year. His contract expires after this year. And Id like to hear who is actually going to play there with Tobi and Scott gone, and no cap space.

Again you play Thybulle beside Joel 

4 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

in your make believe scenario, they would make additional moves to get a pf. they wouldn't need maxey, shake, kork, & curry if they had beal. you think they'd just roll out a vet min guy or a rook?    

silly time is over. let's see if there's any real news this evening. 

 

 

wait... speaking of make believe scenarios, you dont actually think we will just trade Harris for Beal stright up do you?!  Most of those players will already be gone in the Beal trade. Not able to be traded twice to get a starting PG AND a backup PF. 

Have fun with your 3 star lineup where only 2 can score, no bench, and no PF on the roster. Sounds like a dream made in TATE. 

5 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

And hell no on Aaron Gordon. Dude is on the list of never improving his game. Right besides Andrew Wiggins, 

His per 36 shows zero improvement and up until this year his 3 point shot was trash. 

Apparently he is a better defender than Thybulle too.

2 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

And hell no on Aaron Gordon. Dude is on the list of never improving his game. Right besides Andrew Wiggins, 

His per 36 shows zero improvement and up until this year his 3 point shot was trash. 

take out the fact he’s shooting 39.3% from 3 this year as not improving. Meanwhile he started at 27 percent his rookie season. So jumping 12% in three point shooting isn’t improving?

frankly the trade id make is ross and Fournier. I think ross gives them the off the dribble scorer and Fournier is a downgrade defensively from green but massive upgrade offensively. But you likely keep thybulle in that deal so if you wanted could insert thybulle into the 3 and Fournier to shooting guard and curry comes off the bench (which frankly he should). 

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

wait... speaking of make believe scenarios, you dont actually think we will just trade Harris for Beal stright up do you?!  Most of those players will already be gone in the Beal trade. Not able to be traded twice to get a starting PG AND a backup PF. 

you brought up beal...not me.

I don't think they'll trade for him at all. 

7 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Again you play Thybulle beside Joel 

that sounds less than ideal.

2 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

you brought up beal...not me.

I don't think they'll trade for him at all. 

No I didnt.  And me either. They should be making moves this year while they still can. Even if they wanted to make a move for Beal next year, making a move or 2 now is probably necessary to be in position to make a Beal trade happen later. 

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

take out the fact he’s shooting 39.3% from 3 this year as not improving. Meanwhile he started at 27 percent his rookie season. So jumping 12% in three point shooting isn’t improving?

frankly the trade id make is ross and Fournier. I think ross gives them the off the dribble scorer and Fournier is a downgrade defensively from green but massive upgrade offensively. But you likely keep thybulle in that deal so if you wanted could insert thybulle into the 3 and Fournier to shooting guard and curry comes off the bench (which frankly he should). 

I need to see more than 4 months worth to believe it to be true. I have been out on Gordon forever. 

But Ross and Fournier, hell yes. Have been on them for a while now. 

3 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

Apparently he is a better defender than Thybulle too.

No one legitimately said that. I said he guarded 1-5. Please show me how thybulle would do guarding power forwards and centers at 6’5 as Gordon has been asked to do at 6’8. I’m guessing in the post thybulle is likely going to struggle with those guys. My point was he guards 1-5 on the floor. Never said he was better defensively. 

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

that sounds less than ideal.

 

Why does it sound less than ideal because in your mind a PF should have these certain roles and qualities about him. This is the era of position less basketball because if it wasn't Simmons would be a 5.

Bucks are now closing games with 

Giannis, PJ Tucker, Middleton, Jrue, and Pat Connaughton. 

Tucker has shot the ball ONCE in two games and their offense and defense is slowly coming together 

 

silly time!

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

No one legitimately said that. I said he guarded 1-5. Please show me how thybulle would do guarding power forwards and centers at 6’5 as Gordon has been asked to do at 6’8

How many "power forwards" do you know in this modern era that can put their back to the basket and go to work on a consistent basis. 

Zach Randolph ain't walking thru any doors. 

1 minute ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Why does it sound less than ideal because in your mind a PF should have these certain roles and qualities about him. This is the era of position less basketball because if it wasn't Simmons would be a 5.

Bucks are now closing games with 

Giannis, PJ Tucker, Middleton, Jrue, and Pat Connaughton. 

Tucker has shot the ball ONCE in two games and their offense and defense is slowly coming together 

 

And Rockets played with Covington at the 4. That worked. Until it didnt. And Covington is bigger and stronger than Thybulle. Thybulle as a 4 is absolutely ridiculous.

2 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

I need to see more than 4 months worth to believe it to be true. I have been out on Gordon forever. 

But Ross and Fournier, hell yes. Have been on them for a while now. 

Again he still improved. Can’t say he never improved. He currently is. He might regress. He might also just stay consistent or getting better with better talent around him  we don’t have that answer  

the ross and Fournier is a better deal for the sixers. Not sure what you’d have to give up. I’m guessing maxey for certain. Probably picks and a bunch of expiring contracts.  

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

And Rockets played with Covington at the 4. That worked. Until it didnt. And Covington is bigger and stronger than Thybulle. Thybulle as a 4 is absolutely ridiculous.

Because they had Tucker at the 5, come on man. 

Just now, DaEagles4Life said:

How many "power forwards" do you know in this modern era that can put their back to the basket and go to work on a consistent basis. 

Zach Randolph ain't walking thru any doors. 

Grant and Gordon are your ideal PFs these days because they dont do that. No one wants Randolph. But we arent ridiculous enough to suggest a SG play there either.