4 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

How many "power forwards" do you know in this modern era that can put their back to the basket and go to work on a consistent basis. 

Zach Randolph ain't walking thru any doors. 

How many times have the sixers asked thybulle to guard he power forwards position? Not nearly thay often. And i know they aren’t asking him to guard centers for certain. Doesn’t have to be Zach Randolph to see thybulle is shorter and they go attack him on post ups in the playoffs. You don’t think that would happen?  Guarantee it if they asked thybulle to guard more PFs at 6’5

that's not a knock on thybulle just the reality of good coaching seeing that and likely exploiting it 

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

Grant and Gordon are your ideal PFs these days because they dont do that. No one wants Randolph. But we arent ridiculous enough to suggest a SG play there either. 

Bruce Brown routinely played the 5 for the Nets prior to Blake and they were killing people 

Brown is 6'5

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

How many times have the sixers asked thybulle to guard he power forwards position? Not nearly thay often. And i know they aren’t asking him to guard centers for certain. Doesn’t have to be Zach Randolph to see thybulle is shorter and they go attack him on post ups in the playoffs. You don’t think that would happen?  Guarantee it if they asked thybulle to guard more PFs at 6’5

He doesn't need to do that on this team.  Joel, Ben and Tobi can handle that part. His game is to play the passing lanes, get deflections and use his wing span to be a complete menace and he is amazing at that.  He will only get better.

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

How many times have the sixers asked thybulle to guard he power forwards position? Not nearly thay often. And i know they aren’t asking him to guard centers for certain. Doesn’t have to be Zach Randolph to see thybulle is shorter and they go attack him on post ups in the playoffs. You don’t think that would happen?  Guarantee it if they asked thybulle to guard more PFs at 6’5

He has a 6'11" wingspan 

How tall do you think PJ Tucker is? And people wanted him here for his defense as a 4, but only 6'5"

How tall ia Draymond Green? 6'6 

Just stop thinking this is the year 2000

2 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Bruce Brown routinely played the 5 for the Nets prior to Blake and they were killing people 

Brown is 6'5

I’m pretty sure the nets were one of the worst defensive teams in the league. They were killing people cause they were so good offensively. 

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’m pretty sure the nets were one of the worst defensive teams in the league. They were killing people cause they were so good offensively. 

Sixers have two defensive juggernauts in Simmons and Embiid. They will be fine. 

3 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

He has a 6'11" wingspan 

How tall do you think PJ Tucker is? And people wanted him here for his defense as a 4, but only 6'5"

How tall ia Draymond Green? 6'6 

Just stop thinking this is the year 2000

you can have a 6’11 wing span that doesn’t mean you  are able to handle post ups of guys with over 7’3 wingspans and likely 20-25 pounds more. This isn’t about 2000 it’s about you thinking guys bigger don’t have more wingspan and more weight and size to push him around and coaches won’t take advantage of that in the playoffs if they asked him too. It’s why doc doesn’t very often. 

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

you can have a 6’11 wing span that doesn’t mean you  are able to handle post ups of guys with over 7’3 wingspans and likely 20-25 pounds more. This isn’t about 2000 it’s about you thinking guys bigger don’t have more wingspan and more weight and size to push him around and coaches won’t take advantage of that. 

Again how many back to the basket players do you know in this era? Clearly, know one understood the Zach Randolph reference because he made his money on the low block with his back to the basket. 

They are dinosaurs in this era. Face up game is where guys make their money. 

 

Not to mention you have a 6'10 DPOY candidate in Simmons and Embiid who win advanced stats is better defensively. 

 

Stop putting guys in this box and what a Power Forward must be. 

3 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

He doesn't need to do that on this team.  Joel, Ben and Tobi can handle that part. His game is to play the passing lanes, get deflections and use his wing span to be a complete menace and he is amazing at that.  He will only get better.

I don’t disagree. However the point was they don’t have to ask him to do that and they don’t because even with his wingspan he gives up about 20-25 pounds and teams would try to exploit that. Even with a 6’11 wingspan you can’t make up muscle and size that teams would try to routinely exploit if they tried to have him at center and power forward. I love thybulle. Again they aren’t going to ask thybulle to cover lemarcus Aldridge if he’s playing PF alongside bam. Cause Aldridge would just post him up and shoot over him at his size advantage.  Sprolestra wild routinely exploit it. Don’t he wouldn’t. I 

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I don’t disagree. However the point was they don’t have to ask him to do that and they don’t because even with his wingspan he gives up about 20-25 pounds and teams would try to exploit that. Even with a 6’11 wingspan you can’t make up muscle and size that teams would try to routinely exploit if they tried to have him at center and power forward. I love thybulle. Again they aren’t going to ask thybulle to cover lemarcus Aldridge if he’s playing PF alongside bam. Cause Aldridge would just post him up and shoot over him at his size advantage.  Sprolestra wild routinely exploit it. Don’t he wouldn’t. I 

Perfect 

Joel on Bam

Simmons on Aldridge 

Thybulle on Butler. 

2 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Again how many back to the basket players do you know in this era? Clearly, know one understood the Zach Randolph reference because he made his money on the low block with his back to the basket. 

They are dinosaurs in this era. Face up game is where guys make their money 

Until they find themselves matched up on a little 6'5'' guy

1 minute ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Again how many back to the basket players do you know in this era? Clearly, know one understood the Zach Randolph reference because he made his money on the low block with his back to the basket. 

They are dinosaurs in this era. Face up game is where guys make their money 

You keep saying how many? You don’t think if Miami got Aldridge alongside bam in a playoff series against the sixers and saw thybulle on him that sprolestra wouldn’t exploit that. yeah he’s going to continue to go to that well. You keep making it like coaches wouldn’t exploit the muscle and size difference in a playoff series. This has nothing to do with your argument about dinosaur basketball and everything with coaches in playoff series would use thybulle muscle and size against him. 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

You keep saying how many? You don’t think if Miami got Aldridge alongside bam in a playoff series against the sixers and saw thybulle on him that sprolestra wouldn’t exploit that. yeah he’s going to continue to go to that well. You keep making it like coaches wouldn’t exploit the muscle and size difference in a playoff series. This has nothing to do with your argument about dinosaur basketball and everything with coaches in playoff series would use thybulle muscle and size against him. 

Simmons on Aldridge 

Joel on Bam

Thybulle on Butler 

Not to mention Aldridge is sooooooooo horrific on defense I doubt he plays clutch minutes 

 

2 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Perfect 

Joel on Bam

Simmons on Aldridge 

Thybulle on Butler. 

Again that wasn’t the argument. I said if they put thybulle to guard PFs like Aldridge you are telling me spolestra seeing that in a playoff series isn’t exploiting thybulle on the post knowing he’s 50 pounds less and size difference of Aldridge compared to thybulle? BS if you say no. 

you can keep avoiding what I’m saying to you but the argument was they don’t ask thybulle to guard PF.  he gives up too much size and weight that teams would try to exploit the matchup they have in the post.  That’s not dinosaur basketball that’s common sense a guy giving up 50 pounds and my guy has 6 inches and 4-5 inches in wingspan will post him up and shoot over him. 

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Again that wasn’t the argument. I said if they put thybulle to guard PFs like Aldridge you are telling me spolestra seeing that in a playoff series isn’t exploiting thybulle on the post knowing he’s 50 pounds less and size difference of Aldridge compared to thybulle? BS if you say no. 

I have been saying for over a year now that I don't believe in positions. You keep putting guys in these boxes like they have to stick with it. 

So Thybulle couldn't play Tatum because he would be considered a Power Forward to you. 

But really Tatum is the initiator of the offense so he MUST be a PG just like Giannis is a PG because he initiates the offense. 

Ok we have yelled at each other enough.  Now let's start yelling at Morey!  

Positions just don't exist and Sixers have enough size with Simmons and Embiid where they could absolutely trade Harris for a bucket getter in Beal if by some miracle Wiz did that trade. 

I agree with how Brad Stevens looks at basketball. 

"I don’t have the five positions anymore," Celtics coach Brad Stevens said, per Kareem Copeland of the Associated Press. "It may be as simple as three positions now, where you’re either a ball-handler, a wing or a big." 

9 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

I have been saying for over a year now that I don't believe in positions. You keep putting guys in these boxes like they have to stick with it. 

So Thybulle couldn't play Tatum because he would be considered a Power Forward to you. 

Again if they try to play him consistently on somebody like Aldridge they would post him up because he’s 50 pounds more and he has a 4-5 inch longer wingspan and 6 inches taller. Spolestra would just call plays to post up thybulle on that matchup. just bully him in the post and shoot over him. That would be a smart strategic plan by a good coach if the Sixers asked Thybulle to continuously do that. That’s why they don’t ask him to do that besides having Simmons, harris and embiid. Meanwhile Aaron Gordon is guarding guys like that routinely and guys thybulle guards as well. Again Aaron Gordon according to Brad Stevens place but wing defender and big defender. And sometimes even ball handlers

also Tatum is 6’8 and 208 pounds.  So he’s not giving up 50 pounds and not giving up 6 inches in height and not giving up another 5 to 6 inches in wingspan. 

 

5 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

Ok we have yelled at each other enough.  Now let's start yelling at Morey!  

If they dont make any moves I will blame Doc. And if we never win a championship in this ear of 6ers basketball, Doc will do down in infamy with the likes of Colangelo, and Brand.

Because back when Harden was available, Doc was vetoing trades. We held up that trade because we didnt want to include Maxey (that was right around the time he scored 39 points) but then Doc moved him out of the rotation anyway....

 

2 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

I agree with how Brad Stevens looks at basketball. 

"I don’t have the five positions anymore," Celtics coach Brad Stevens said, per Kareem Copeland of the Associated Press. "It may be as simple as three positions now, where you’re either a ball-handler, a wing or a big." 

so there are still bigs. And Thybulle doesnt fit that description. 

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Again if they try to play him consistently on somebody like Aldridge they would post him up because he’s 50 pounds more and he has a 4-5 inch longer wingspan and 6 inches taller. Spolestra would just call plays to post up thybulle on that matchup. just bully him in the post and shoot over him. That would be a smart strategic plan by a good coach if the Sixers asked Thybulle to continuously do that. That’s why they don’t ask him to do that besides having Simmons, harris and embiid. Meanwhile Aaron Gordon is guarding guys like that routinely and guys thybulle guards as well. 

also Tatum is 6’8 and 208 pounds.  So he’s not giving up 50 pounds and not giving up 6 inches in height and not giving up another 5 to 6 inches in wingspan.

And again, why wouldn't Doc adjust and put Tobi, Joel or Ben on that person?  I am glad Gordon can guard 1-5, so can Ben. And just because Gordon is bigger and stronger than him, doesn't mean he is as good a defender.  Thybulle defends the people he is capable of at a might higher level than Gordon.  And if the person is too big for Thybulle, we use Ben or Joel.  I am not sure the points of your responses now?

1 minute ago, Khani1 said:

And again, why wouldn't Doc adjust and put Tobi, Joel or Ben on that person?  I am glad Gordon can guard 1-5, so can Ben.  I am not sure the points of your responses now?

I think the initial argument was get rid of Harris for Beal and Haz said no one to play the 4. Thybulle can play the 4 offensively and Ben can guard the 4 defensively if he is a back to the basket type of player. 

1 minute ago, DaEagles4Life said:

I think the initial argument was get rid of Harris for Beal and Haz said no one to play the 4. Thybulle can play the 4 offensively and Ben can guard the 4 defensively if he is a back to the basket type of player. 

No I think he is still trying to talk up Aaron freaking Gordon.

Just now, Khani1 said:

And again, why wouldn't Doc adjust and put Tobi, Joel or Ben on that person?  I am glad Gordon can guard 1-5, so can Ben.  I am not sure the points of your responses now?

Doc wouldn’t. But that wasn’t the argument (not yours now). Somehow this became we’re talking about dinosaur basketball and that’s not the case. The case would be if the Sixers didn’t have those three guys and they asked him to cover guys like Aldridge he would get exploited by good coaches who would notice he doesn’t have the size and weight to be as good of a defender doing that. Eric Spoelstra‘s not gonna be like a Aldridge sit on the perimeter and make it easier for Matisse. So he might be a better defender but he’s also not Going to be asked to cover every guy on the floor like Aaron Gordon is. 

Looks like you guys have lost your minds.... I'll come back later to see if you guys are ok lol