6 minutes ago, nipples said:

Go back to past seasons and tell me how they did in games without Embiid, even against the average to bad teams. It was not good. 
 

 

they put up a graphic earlier this season that said the sixers had a .400 winning % without embiid (up until that point). the fact that they are playing confidently & winning w/o him is huge. 

1 minute ago, mr_hunt said:

they put up a graphic earlier this season that said the sixers had a .400 winning % without embiid (up until that point). the fact that they are playing confidently & winning w/o him is huge. 

Harris went off in the few games after he got hurt and hasn't done much since. He is still hot or cold. Simmons plays d and doesn't score.

Honestly, it is more an example of ghosts of playoff past and things to come for me than showing confidence. Glad Green decided to step up last night, but there is no consistently with any of them. Hope Green continues to stay hot and Hill adds a scorer off the bench. It is good they are beating bad teams but it feels like I'm  watching the same old 76ers we've seen the past few years and that won't be good enough against good teams when it matters.

1 hour ago, Blazehound said:

Miami might not make the playoffs bruh

Stop, what a horrible take. 

And you do know the NBA is doing play in games so 9th and 10th place teams have a shot at the playoffs, sure you knew that. 

The teams with the seventh-highest and eighth-highest winning percentages in each conference will each have two opportunities to win one game to earn a playoff spot. The teams with the ninth-highest and tenth-highest winning percentages in each conference will each have to win two consecutive games to earn a playoff spot.

1 hour ago, bbabraham said:

I know we've beaten teams missing stars but we've previously lost an awful lot of games when Embiid's been out and we've looked terrible. The fact that we're winning multiple games without Embiid against anyone is a big improvement.

Yeah previous years they’d be losing some of these games especially on the road. To me the most impressive game the sixers have had in this stretch might have been the loss to the bucks. If that game wasn’t the second night of a back to back i think the sixers very well win that game against a bucks team that had everyone. They lost in overtime down Curry for some of that game and embiid. 

58 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Harris went off in the few games after he got hurt and hasn't done much since. He is still hot or cold. Simmons plays d and doesn't score.

Honestly, it is more an example of ghosts of playoff past and things to come for me than showing confidence. Glad Green decided to step up last night, but there is no consistently with any of them. Hope Green continues to stay hot and Hill adds a scorer off the bench. It is good they are beating bad teams but it feels like I'm  watching the same old 76ers we've seen the past few years and that won't be good enough against good teams when it matters.

This might be the most negadelphian post I've seen all year  

17 minutes ago, Gannan said:

This might be the most negadelphian post I've seen all year  

1 hour ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Stop, what a horrible take. 

And you do know the NBA is doing play in games so 9th and 10th place teams have a shot at the playoffs, sure you knew that. 

The teams with the seventh-highest and eighth-highest winning percentages in each conference will each have two opportunities to win one game to earn a playoff spot. The teams with the ninth-highest and tenth-highest winning percentages in each conference will each have to win two consecutive games to earn a playoff spot.

They’ve lost 5 straight.  I see nothing wrong with his take.

15 minutes ago, barho said:

They’ve lost 5 straight.  I see nothing wrong with his take.

That the Heat won't make the playoffs? It is a horrible take. No team has been more hurt by COVID and they added two pieces at the deadline. Not to mention Spoelstra is a top 5 coach in the league. They are ONE game out of 4th place in the East. 

And they were 11-1 prior to the 5 game skid, come on. 

OK, after having a day to digest, here's where I'm at on the Sixers "moves" at the deadline. 

It really does appear that sellers massively overvalued their assets, and not just the Raptors. Not moving Lowry was idiotic, but so is Lonzo Ball still being in New Orleans. Lonzo (through his father) has made it abundantly clear that he isn't staying in New Orleans. Lowry is almost assuredly leaving Toronto. Not moving those guys is just...insane. I still find it hard to believe that the sellers could all be that stupid collectively, but maybe that is what happened. If so, kudos to Morey for not paying an insane price (i.e., Thybulle). 

However, I still can't countenance Mike Scott being on this team as an expiring contract. I'd rather have me on the roster at this point, and I'm 5'6". Making things worse is Doc's allegiance to veterans, which leads to things like starting Mike Scott last night. Maybe you can talk me into keeping Green, especially if you can sign him to a 1 year contract for next year and keep him as an asset. Maybe you can package Hill with Brand's trade exception before it expires. But how, in the name of all that is holy, do you not put Scott in the deal for Hill instead of Bradley. OKC was just dumping salary anyway -- I have to imagine making the picks 2023 and 2024 (as opposed to 2025 and 2026) would have let them keep Bradley and unload Scott. 

So my main annoyance is I feel like Morey got played by Toronto, who ended up playing themselves at the end. Toronto wanted to keep their "auction" going right to the deadline, forcing us to hold on to Scott for salary purposes. We should have given Toronto a take it or leave it earlier, and then moved on to try and get Lonzo and others. If that didn't work, Hill was always there at 2:45, and then you can use Scott. Feels like Morey was convinced Toronto would blink, and they should have. But when they decided to be irrational, we got hosed. 

Keeping our assets tied into Toronto's process until the end was the mistake, IMO. We really need a big on the buyout market ASAP.

1 hour ago, Gannan said:

This might be the most negadelphian post I've seen all year  

Cute post. Effort is there.

Please by all means explain to me how this team is showing us anything different right now past a meme. Harris streaky shooter still? Yep. Ben not doing crap to score in half court games? Same. Once in a while a bench guy steps up, but there is no consistency. Same. They have another consistent scorer to help Embiid when teams double him and take him away. Nope. Great Green is going off and I hope it continues, but it's only been a few games. Will Hill be that guy? Don't know yet.

Not saying they will blow it, but playoff basketball is different,  and what is different past being a 76ers fan with blinders on? Like I said I'm glad they are winning against bad teams without Embiid, but they are showing me the flaws of the last few years still remain. 

 

45 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

So my main annoyance is I feel like Morey got played by Toronto, who ended up playing themselves at the end. Toronto wanted to keep their "auction" going right to the deadline, forcing us to hold on to Scott for salary purposes. We should have given Toronto a take it or leave it earlier, and then moved on to try and get Lonzo and others. If that didn't work, Hill was always there at 2:45, and then you can use Scott. Feels like Morey was convinced Toronto would blink, and they should have. But when they decided to be irrational, we got hosed. 

Keeping our assets tied into Toronto's process until the end was the mistake, IMO. We really need a big on the buyout market ASAP.

Not sure Raptors care they shown to lose guys for nothing 

Ibaka, Gasol, Kawhi, and now Lowry. At the same time Raptors and  Ujiri have shown to get guys out of nowhere and draft so well. 

The last few years the buyout market has grown exponentially and think if Kelly Olynyk and Otto Porter get bought out they are the top options. 

And remember we heard Green rumors about going to Warriors so Morey had a 3 team deal working to get Lowry back. If he didn't cost 30 million dollars it would have gotten done. That is such a big number to add within depleting depth. 

 

3 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Not sure Raptors care they shown to lose guys for nothing 

Ibaka, Gasol, Kawhi, and now Lowry. At the same time Raptors and  Ujiri have shown to get guys out of nowhere and draft so well. 

The last few years the buyout market has grown exponentially and think if Kelly Olynyk and Otto Porter get bought out they are the top options. 

And remember we heard Green rumors about going to Warriors so Morey had a 3 team deal working to get Lowry back. If he didn't cost 30 million dollars it would have gotten done. That is such a big number to add within depleting depth. 

 

I really hate Olynyk, but he'd be a perfect singing for this team.

1 hour ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Not sure Raptors care they shown to lose guys for nothing 

Ibaka, Gasol, Kawhi, and now Lowry. At the same time Raptors and  Ujiri have shown to get guys out of nowhere and draft so well. 

The last few years the buyout market has grown exponentially and think if Kelly Olynyk and Otto Porter get bought out they are the top options. 

And remember we heard Green rumors about going to Warriors so Morey had a 3 team deal working to get Lowry back. If he didn't cost 30 million dollars it would have gotten done. That is such a big number to add within depleting depth. 

 

Like vikas said Olynyk would be a perfect signing. Really would love Porter too like you said. Get those two and hope Green stays shooting well.

Ottor Porter Jr is washed right now.  Mike Scott has more value and I hate Mike Scott.

dieng might be okay as well. 

24 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

Ottor Porter Jr is washed right now.  Mike Scott has more value and I hate Mike Scott.

All depends on his back and as a stretch wing he can still shoot from a distance. Really the only attribute this team needs, like every other team. A career 40% from 3 on 3 attempts and worth a flier. 

We know Doc isn't playing Maxey nor Joe because he doesn't trust them or something so load up with vets. 

 

24 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

dieng might be okay as well. 

Mentioned him the other day and he can shoot a bit from distance as a 3rd Center. Everywhere he has gone teammates talk very highly of him as well as a character guy. 

We are at 14 roster spots right now I think? And could keep Reed in G League for a 2nd, not sure how that works. 

2 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

Cute post. Effort is there.

Please by all means explain to me how this team is showing us anything different right now past a meme. 

 

Ummmm... they're the top seed in the East. They haven't done that in 20 years. I know you're still pissed that Trump lost the election and all, but you can at least take some joy out of the fact that the sixers are the best they've been in 2 decades. 

13 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

All depends on his back and as a stretch wing he can still shoot from a distance. Really the only attribute this team needs, like every other team. A career 40% from 3 on 3 attempts and worth a flier. 

We know Doc isn't playing Maxey nor Joe because he doesn't trust them or something so load up with vets. 

He is a decent player when he is healthy.  He is broken down right now.

1 hour ago, vikas83 said:

I really hate Olynyk, but he'd be a perfect singing for this team.

Ugh, he would be a good fit.  I just don't know if I could watch him play without wanting to punch his face.

1 hour ago, Gannan said:

Ummmm... they're the top seed in the East. They haven't done that in 20 years. I know you're still pissed that Trump lost the election and all, but you can at least take some joy out of the fact that the sixers are the best they've been in 2 decades. 

Ah...deflection and ad hominem because you have nothing factual to base your posts. Not unsurprising.

Top seed means nothing the same way the way Simmons plays in the regular season has meant nothing the past years. If you read my post I never said they can't or won't do well. What I said is factual and I stand by it, which is watching these games it feels like this team has the same exact problems they have had for the last few years. Harris is streaky, Ben can't/won't shoot and is irrelevant in a half court game, there is no consistent shooter right now in the starting rotation or bench to rely on when teams double Embiid. Hopefully, Green becomes that guy, but it's been 2 games. Maybe you don't understand, but playoff basketball is different than regular season games. Having the number 1 seed isn't going to make those issues go away against teams like the Heat, Bucks, or Nets. Something will have to change. Will it? I hope so, but they haven't shown it yet. 

 

3 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

Cute post. Effort is there.

Please by all means explain to me how this team is showing us anything different right now past a meme. Harris streaky shooter still? Yep. Ben not doing crap to score in half court games? Same. Once in a while a bench guy steps up, but there is no consistency. Same. They have another consistent scorer to help Embiid when teams double him and take him away. Nope. Great Green is going off and I hope it continues, but it's only been a few games. Will Hill be that guy? Don't know yet.

Not saying they will blow it, but playoff basketball is different,  and what is different past being a 76ers fan with blinders on? Like I said I'm glad they are winning against bad teams without Embiid, but they are showing me the flaws of the last few years still remain. 

 

Wtf are you talking about with Harris? He’s averaging like 23PPG since Embiid’s been out. Going back to and including the Spurs game he’s shooting 47% from 3 in that stretch. Like I literally do not see what you are talking about with Harris. 

1 hour ago, nipples said:

Wtf are you talking about with Harris? He’s averaging like 23PPG since Embiid’s been out. Going back to and including the Spurs game he’s shooting 47% from 3 in that stretch. Like I literally do not see what you are talking about with Harris. 

Good point. Has he been more consistent this year? Yes. Will he stay that way? Again, he's hot and cold and that's my point. He never stays that way especially in the payoffs.

I'll put it like this....two years ago they needed one shot to win a game who was taking it? JJ or Butler. 

This year? ??????

Also, look at it vs good teams. 0-1 Lakers, 1-4 against the Bucks, 0-3 vs Jazz. He put up points in those games, but beyond the line when things are tight in big playoff games still concerns me. Doesn't mean he won't be a stud, but that is where he is going to have to knock things down from. 

57 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Ah...deflection and ad hominem because you have nothing factual to base your posts. Not unsurprising.

Top seed means nothing the same way the way Simmons plays in the regular season has meant nothing the past years. If you read my post I never said they can't or won't do well. What I said is factual and I stand by it, which is watching these games it feels like this team has the same exact problems they have had for the last few years. Harris is streaky, Ben can't/won't shoot and is irrelevant in a half court game, there is no consistent shooter right now in the starting rotation or bench to rely on when teams double Embiid. Hopefully, Green becomes that guy, but it's been 2 games. Maybe you don't understand, but playoff basketball is different than regular season games. Having the number 1 seed isn't going to make those issues go away against teams like the Heat, Bucks, or Nets. Something will have to change. Will it? I hope so, but they haven't shown it yet. 

 

It’s a fact that they are having the best season they’ve had in 20 years. You asked me what was different, I told you. You’re welcome. 

14 minutes ago, Gannan said:

It’s a fact that they are having the best season they’ve had in 20 years. You asked me what was different, I told you. You’re welcome. 

LOL which means nothing past more deflection. What I asked was what would show things would mean a different outcome in the playoffs because it's a different game and regular season scores don't matter. You have snarky comments, but little past that. 

Main point isn't that they won't do well this year. I'm glad they are winning, but this team as a whole hasn't shown me they have taken steps to fix the issues they have been having. That isn't defeatist, that is just not putting blinders on. As NY Eagles said with the Pulp Fiction quote. It's great but let's take it easy.