5 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Proably gotta go for like Chris Paul and Diallo or Ferguson. Paul will obviously be able to run the offense, and shoot. The other guy wont be anything special unfortunately... but Diallo is still very young and super athletic, while Ferguson is also very athletic and can shoot.

Might be our best option for a bad salary swap deal.

 

Not even sure Okc would want to trade Paul. He has 2 years left. Granted 41 and 44 Million. But the second year he Becomes valuable as an expiring contract. With horford you still have 3 more years. If I’m Okc i much rather deal with Paul for another year then horford for at least two more. Especially when i have Adams who plays the same position 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Not even sure Okc would want to trade Paul. He has 2 years left. Granted 41 and 44 Million. But the second year he Becomes valuable as an expiring contract. With horford you still have 3 more years. If I’m Okc i much rather deal with Paul for another year then horford for at least two more. Especially when i have Adams who plays the same position 

this is true. Hes been a name rumored. Maybe he will go for some other bad money deal, but possibly not  Horford's horrible one.

paul's contract is so high that the sixers would have to trade both horford & richardson to match his salary.

34 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

he's not exactly a 3 point shooter but i've read some trade ideas of richardson for dinwiddie.  he's a pg who can create offense. then there are the horford for hield rumors.  something like those moves that would transform the backcourt could really help.

Dinwiddie is nice, but not if you keep Ben.

Dinwiddie is a career 31% 3 pt shooter and only shot it at 30% this season. Id love to have him if you can make him fit. Dinwiddie Hield back court sounds exciting compared to what we have had. But I think it necessitates a Ben trade.

As teams are still able to clog the paint it makes things tougher on Dinwiddie and Ben. And they can really pressure Hield hard like they used to on Reddick to make him always take extremely difficult 3s. So  youd diminish the returns on Hield some. 

Ben is just a big issue.

7 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

paul's contract is so high that the sixers would have to trade both horford & richardson to match his salary.

That’s the other issue with it as well. The matching salaries you are closer to Paul with harris’ contract then horford’s. 

dinwiddie was just one example since i read something about him for j-rich. can't get caught up in the names right now...just the concept.  al & j-rich for an upgraded backcourt helps solve a lot of problems. maybe they have to throw in that okc pick to make it work...idk.  ben & tobi would be your forwards with jojo at the 5. it's not an impossible task to upgrade the backcourt from shake & richardson. 

1 hour ago, mr_hunt said:

this team has 2 perennial all stars & some nice pieces. the roster has talent. it just doesn't fit. 

i'm going to assume tobi isn't going anywhere because of his contract....but if they can somehow move horford & richardson for a backcourt that meshes better with ben & jo, i think they'll be alright....2 guys who can shoot the 3...with 1 of them being a pg who can create.  put a backcourt like that with ben, jo, & tobi. then you still have shake, mattise, etc. coming off the bench. 

Since Billy King is out of the league, there is absolutely no one foolish enough to take Horford's ridiculous contract. Richardson is the only player we have who has value outside of Ben and Joel. Richardson is a good defender who can shoot the 3. I think he would be better for us under a real coach. I'm hesitant to move him. 

13 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

dinwiddie was just one example since i read something about him for j-rich. can't get caught up in the names right now...just the concept.  al & j-rich for an upgraded backcourt helps solve a lot of problems. maybe they have to throw in that okc pick to make it work...idk.  ben & tobi would be your forwards with jojo at the 5. it's not an impossible task to upgrade the backcourt from shake & richardson. 

I actually think you probably could convince the kings to deal you Harrison Barnes straight up for horford. Close enough contracts. But disappointments for the money they are making. I don’t like Barnes but he’s at least a better fit then horford. I think  is a pipe dream unless they really love Richardson but even then you have to go horford and Richardson for hield and Joseph. Still don’t see them dealing hield for that. They can get a better offer than that. 

I wonder what it would take to get DeRozan from SA. DeRozan has a player option for 27.7 M which is a pretty exact match with Horfords salary.

The issue is that DeRozan then is an expiring, and Horford has a few more years. So youd obviously have to give up more. Just to get that expiring deal. 

Not sure how much we can give considering we have no cap space and would have to fill holes of any additional players we send out other trades or just an MLE. 

26 minutes ago, Gannan said:

Since Billy King is out of the league, there is absolutely no one foolish enough to take Horford's ridiculous contract. Richardson is the only player we have who has value outside of Ben and Joel. Richardson is a good defender who can shoot the 3. I think he would be better for us under a real coach. I'm hesitant to move him. 

there are teams that would take al as their small ball center.  houston could be one & eric gordon is a guy i could see them moving. 

Juwan Howard is gaining traction as a coaching candidate for several teams, sources tell Adrian Wojnarowski of ESPN.

Howard was a head coaching candidate for both the Los Angeles Lakers and Cleveland Cavaliers before he became head coach at the University of Michigan.

Howard worked as an assistant coach for several seasons under Erik Spoelstra with the Miami Heat. 

Here is now a concrete story about Simmons not getting along with butler.

Quote

 

The Philadelphia 76ers were ready to offer Jimmy Butler a max contract last summer if he agreed to not meet with any other teams, league sources told Chris Haynes of Yahoo! Sports.

Butler, who was reportedly "lukewarm" on re-signing with the Sixers, did not agree to the stipulation before signing with the Heat.

Butler rubbed Sixers teammates and Brett Brown the wrong way with his outspoken leadership style during his time in Philadelphia.

Butler once sent Ben Simmons playing instructions before a Nets game on a team group chat, which Simmons took issue with.

Brown is expected to part ways with the Sixers "in the coming days," according to Yahoo! Sports.

 

 

It was fairly obvious to surmise, and gws on realgm hinted at their relationship not being good.

You gotta figure even if Brown didnt like Butler, but both Embiid AND Simmons loved him the way Embiid did, then Butler would have been retained no question. It was obvious Simmons's apathetic attitude towards Basketball was never going to mesh with Butler. But there were no stories out there. Now, there is one. 

2 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Lmao yup sixers pushing it all on brown and a little more shocking Simmons. I’ll tell you it’s BS they would’ve offered him a 5year max if he didn’t talk to other teams. They didn’t want to give him that 5th year and that’s a god awful excuse. Goes back to what i said one of the coaches at Arizona who is connected to a coach on the sixers was told the sixers never offered butler the Max and had no intention of doing so. This kind of proved they never even offered him it. So the report from woj last offseason saying they did was BS. This ownership and organization is a bunch of morons running a clown show. 

It's pretty ridiculous to trade the assets they did for a one year rental. If that trade was given the green light it had to be with the expectation that you were signing Butler to the max. That just highlights the incompetence of the ownership and FO

27 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Juwan Howard is gaining traction as a coaching candidate for several teams, sources tell Adrian Wojnarowski of ESPN.

Howard was a head coaching candidate for both the Los Angeles Lakers and Cleveland Cavaliers before he became head coach at the University of Michigan.

Howard worked as an assistant coach for several seasons under Erik Spoelstra with the Miami Heat. 

im thinking if the sixers cant get rid of anyone, they have to find someone that knows how to use the bigs effectively, lue is another one since he worked with lebron i guess you can say he's part of the big man. juwan howard probably fits this team because he knows to effectly use the big man.

https://www.michigandaily.com/section/mens-basketball/juwan-howards-path-becoming-man-charge

As an assistant with the Heat, Howard’s official responsibilities included developing the big men on the roster and optimizing defense. In these efforts, Miami’s centers Hassan Whiteside and Bam Adebayo are testaments to that.

32 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

there are teams that would take al as their small ball center.  houston could be one & eric gordon is a guy i could see them moving. 

Not at a max contract with 3 years left. Horford makes 11 mill a year more than Gordon. We got 11 pts and 6 rebounds a game from a guy making 28 million a year and he's only going to decline from here. 

2 minutes ago, Gannan said:

Not at a max contract with 3 years left. Horford makes 11 mill a year more than Gordon. We got 11 pts and 6 rebounds a game from a guy making 28 million a year and he's only going to decline from here. 

horford doesn't have a max contract.  but yeah...other players would need to be involved to match salaries. 

1 minute ago, mr_hunt said:

horford doesn't have a max contract.  but yeah...other players would need to be involved to match salaries. 

Yeah. Looking it up, he's the 23rd highest paid this year. Still depressing. 

16 minutes ago, Gannan said:

Yeah. Looking it up, he's the 23rd highest paid this year. Still depressing. 

it is...and he's the guy they might have to attached that okc pick to in order to get rid of him. 

1 minute ago, mr_hunt said:

it is...and he's the guy they might have to attached that okc pick to in order to get rid of him. 

Frankly I don’t even know if they’re OKC pick is good enough for somebody to want to take on that contract. If he had two years left makes more sense. He still has three. At least if you were at two you only have one more year and then becomes an expiring contract. The fact that it’s two more years until it’s an expiring contract is what really hurts

38 minutes ago, toughfighter83 said:

im thinking if the sixers cant get rid of anyone, they have to find someone that knows how to use the bigs effectively, lue is another one since he worked with lebron i guess you can say he's part of the big man. juwan howard probably fits this team because he knows to effectly use the big man.

https://www.michigandaily.com/section/mens-basketball/juwan-howards-path-becoming-man-charge

As an assistant with the Heat, Howard’s official responsibilities included developing the big men on the roster and optimizing defense. In these efforts, Miami’s centers Hassan Whiteside and Bam Adebayo are testaments to that.

I know nothing about nba coaches just like I know nothing about picking NFL coaches. 

My very novice opinion is that a guy who worked under Spo is attractive.  Then coached a solid big 10 program. 

I don't mind that resume at all.

 

I also like Lue just for the fact that I think he would instantly demand some back court talent as a former guard himself. 

fab five!  

 

 

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

I know nothing about nba coaches just like I know nothing about picking NFL coaches. 

My very novice opinion is that a guy who worked under Spo is attractive.  Then coached a solid big 10 program. 

I don't mind that resume at all.

 

I also like Lue just for the fact that I think he would instantly demand some back court talent as a former guard himself. 

I'll take Budenholzer tree and give Kenny Atkinson a real shot. He was forced out of the Nets by prima donna not playing DeAndre Jordan. Look what he did with that Nets team last year and gave the Sixers a good test in the playoffs with a less talented team

A solid article calling out ownership of the team

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/76ers/sixers-owners-josh-harris-david-blitzer-gm-search-elton-brand-brett-brown?fbclid=IwAR1LRMOXNX3YT8HEgAy6_7xJMwMPuk4x6vtLbbT4RRv0_MrmmrwoSDzoliA

56 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

A solid article calling out ownership of the team

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/76ers/sixers-owners-josh-harris-david-blitzer-gm-search-elton-brand-brett-brown?fbclid=IwAR1LRMOXNX3YT8HEgAy6_7xJMwMPuk4x6vtLbbT4RRv0_MrmmrwoSDzoliA

Only thing that snake cares about is $$.  I know you can say that about most owners.  But he truly doesn't care about winning.