According to an NBA source, two Atlantic Division squads, the Celtics and 76ers, have interest in Knicks swingman Reggie Bullock, who started all season at either shooting guard or small forward. 40 mins ago – via Marc Berman @ New York Post

Foshbomb alert!

 

Per source, Portland Trailblazers GM, Neil Olshey and Philadelphia 76ers President, Daryl Morey spoke late last night. Another call scheduled for 9am this morning. Draft is one week away. Things are heating up

12 hours ago, DaEagles4Life said:

According to an NBA source, two Atlantic Division squads, the Celtics and 76ers, have interest in Knicks swingman Reggie Bullock, who started all season at either shooting guard or small forward. 40 mins ago – via Marc Berman @ New York Post

I’m guessing the sixers would be using their MLE on him if he comes here. Also kind of feels like maybe a sign green is gone or they don’t believe he’ll be back. Unless they are planning on having curry off the bench. 

15 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I actually think a better tactic is to go about it and say, "if you want to win a title you are going to have to likely play and be able to beat the bucks and Giannis. Simmons for all of his downfalls on offense is still one of the few players in the league who can make it much tougher and work harder for Giannis to do what he wants to do which puts more pressure on guys like middleton and jrue to step up every night. Plus he is only 25 so there’s some potential he develops more offensively”

not saying that works but that’s how I’d lie through my teeth to sell Simmons to teams. 

yep. Whenever I'm making FF trades every season I try to give up a little leverage/admit some truth as to why I want the other player or why they should actually want the guy I'm selling. Never want to risk the other GM hanging up the phone by me overcommitting to selling a bad player and coming off like a snake oil salesman. Morey pimping Ben as a Giannis defender combined with "he's only 25" may be the best route to get a skeptical GM to commit. 

1 minute ago, JBENT87 said:

yep. Whenever I'm making FF trades every season I try to give up a little leverage/admit some truth as to why I want the other player or why they should actually want the guy I'm selling. Never want to risk the other GM hanging up the phone by me overcommitting to selling a bad player and coming off like a snake oil salesman. Morey pimping Ben as a Giannis defender combined with "he's only 25" may be the best route to get a skeptical GM to commit. 

The one thing that actually helped the sixers during this finals was giannis just obliterating the suns defense and any defender they put on him. The suns didn’t have anyone who could remotely make him work harder for what he got on offense. Giannis is always going to get his if he plays up to his ability but you can make him work harder to not be as efficient. 

i still don’t think it massively makes a difference but at least it’s something 

Theres been a bunch of guards Im interested in in this draft. But Im starting to think there is no one Id like MORE than TJ's boy Luka Garza.

We have failed to bring in guards with creating ability. But, its a fairly easy thing to do. 

We have also failed to bring in a reasonable option as a stretch 4/5 and this is more due to lack of options.

This guy averaged over 24 points in college with efficiency on high usage. You can have him super cheap with years of control. Itd be a great solution to our problem without having to worry about rotating through a new vet min option year after year, like freakin Tolliver...

Meaning the cavs would be taking Mobley at 3 and the rockets taking green at 2

17 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Meaning the cavs would be taking Mobley at 3 and the rockets taking green at 2

Raptors and Magic both made trade offers for the 3rd pick.

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Raptors and Magic both made trade offers for the 3rd pick.

Wondering if they want Mobley if the report is the Raptors would be willing to go Barnes over suggs at 4. 

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Wondering if they want Mobley if the report is the Raptors would be willing to go Barnes over suggs at 4. 

I dont know, but its time to jump in to a 3 way with Toronto and Cleveland where Toronto gets the 3rd pick, we get Lowry, Sexton, Nance and Cleveland gets Ben.

Something like this, and shuffle picks around as necessary with Toronto receiving Pick 3.

The salary actually works when you S&T Lowry for the proper amount (2/50) rather than the 30M shown on this trade machine.

Cleveland only has to trade Sexton, Nance and pick 3 for Ben. Thats value.

Toronto with no leverage due to a sign and trade scenario ends up getting pick 3 and some bench players which is also great value for them rather than seeing Lowry walk as a free agent somewhere.

Philly gets its established star/floor general in Lowry, budding Star/shot creator in Sexton, and a starting caliber combo F in Nance. Is there a future pick/s thrown in there? Maybe.

No one has to take on Love's bad contract. Love/Sexton are separated solving some morale issues in Cleveland.

 

Who says no?

8 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Cleveland only has to trade Sexton, Nance and pick 3 for Ben. Thats value.

Toronto with no leverage due to a sign and trade scenario ends up getting pick 3 and some bench players which is also great value for them rather than seeing Lowry walk as a free agent somewhere.

Philly gets its established star/floor general in Lowry, budding Star/shot creator in Sexton, and a starting caliber combo F in Nance. Is there a future pick/s thrown in there? Maybe.

No one has to take on Love's bad contract. Love/Sexton are separated solving some morale issues in Cleveland.

 

Who says no?

Not really a Sexton fan. I think they can do better. 

I’ll pass.  i don’t believe Sexton, Lowry or maxey are  remotely shooting guards. All are better suited as point guards. And you can’t have Sexton come off the bench cause he’ll not like it or Lowry. Also their size defensively trying to guard opposing teams shooting guards with size is going to be bad. 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’ll pass.  i don’t believe Sexton, Lowry or maxey are  remotely shooting guards. All are better suited as point guards. And you can’t have Sexton come off the bench cause he’ll not like it or Lowry. Also their size defensively trying to guard opposing teams shooting guards with size is going to be bad. 

I think Lowry and Sexton can get it done on the defensive end. At least well enough that it wont negate the massive offensive improvement both would bring to our back court. Who is on ball and off ball may be an issue but Sexton just had a great season while playing with a real PG in Garland so I believe it can work. 

Im looking at the value for all 3 teams, and not included in my above posts is that we didnt have to trade Maxey, Thybulle, or even Shake. Now you have all 3 of them on the bench which is also a massive improvement vs other trade options.

 

15 minutes ago, nipples said:

Not really a Sexton fan. I think they can do better. 

They might be able to get a better player, by giving up a lot more. And it might be A better player, but not 2 players like the combination of Lowry AND Sexton.

However, there is a chance Lillard doesnt request a trade till the deadline. We dont land Beal, and LaVine is not available. 

In that fairly likely event, how are we possibly going to do better than this package of 3 players of which we have an established all star, and an all star caliber scoring guard?

38 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’ll pass.  i don’t believe Sexton, Lowry or maxey are  remotely shooting guards. All are better suited as point guards. And you can’t have Sexton come off the bench cause he’ll not like it or Lowry. Also their size defensively trying to guard opposing teams shooting guards with size is going to be bad. 

Sexton best position is to be off ball and let another guard handle initiating the offense Ala Murray

1 minute ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Sexton best position is to be off ball and let another guard handle initiating the offense Ala Murray

Sexton/Lowry combo = championship. Thats WITH Tobi, Embiid, keeping Maxey and Thybulle, Shake... adding Nance... and still have the MLE or trade exception to replace Green.

Its a great, great scenario.

19 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Sexton best position is to be off ball and let another guard handle initiating the offense Ala Murray

I think that was the case cause they cavs had to with garland and it didn’t really equate to them winning games or overall team success. He scored a bunch of points. Regular season you’ll be fine. In the playoffs i don’t think Sexton and Lowry is going to work enough to win you a title. They are undersized and i dont believe Sexton continues shooting the 3 at the clip he did this past year, he’s actually regressed in that area as he’s taken more threes on average each year.  

Id point out sexton’s 3 point percentage has gone from 40 to 38 to 37 over the last three years. A decline each year along with the amount of attempts going up. So his attempts are going up playing off ball but his makes basically stayed the same  

Also I dont think Sexton and Lowry in the playoffs are going to be able to guard someone like harden whom you likely have thybulle guarding durant if Ben is gone. Let’s just look at the title contenders next year and their backcourts the size difference is going to be a lot with Lowry at 6’0 and Sexton at 6’1. That’s a really small backcourt. You better believe teams will take advantage of that. 

murray is also 6’4 1/2. Thats 3.5 and 4.5 inches on that backcourt.  

Not a Sexton guy but where I see him fitting in a competitive roster, as an off ball guard. 

Sexton and Murray have the same wingspan at 6'6" as well. 

 

BJ Boston was a Top 10 recruit out of high school but looking like a 2nd round pick. I would take a flyer on him 

 

10 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Not a Sexton guy but where I see him fitting in a competitive roster, as an off ball guard. 

Sexton and Murray have the same wingspan at 6'6" as well. 

 

BJ Boston was a Top 10 recruit out of high school but looking like a 2nd round pick. I would take a flyer on him 

 

I think Lowry and Sexton works in the regular season. I think in the post season that lack of size at both guard positions is going to be your downfall. Teams will attack that. They did it to the suns this past series having jrue on Paul and Paul had issues dealing with jrue’s physicality on defense and size as he’s just 6 foot. I think the size is going to catch up to you defensively and teams like the bucks will exploit it. Just saying sexton’s defensive rating this past year was 117.7. That’s not good  

Add on if we want him to play off ball for a title contender, he better improve his 3 point shooting not have it regress. He’s gone from 3.6 to 3.9 to 4.4 three point shot attempts from rookie year til this year. His percentage has dropped from 40 to 38 to 37. Murray had that bubble run where he shot 45% from three and it continued into this year at 40.8% on a higher amount then Sexton is shooting. I think Murray is better off ball and moving without the ball then Sexton. 

Also i believe part of the reason the cavs are willing to trade him and not pay him is they don’t think they can get to where they want to go with him having to play off ball with garland. And they like garland better as a PG. 

Again not a Murray or Sexton fan just how I see them being similar players. 

To me bubble stats are taken with a grain of salt. Shooting behind a black backdrop makes shooting the ball so much easier 

24 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Again not a Murray or Sexton fan just how I see them being similar players. 

To me bubble stats are taken with a grain of salt. Shooting behind a black backdrop makes shooting the ball so much easier 

I agree on the bubble point. I think Murray and herro’s stats were deceiving. That said I think Murray is a better player moving without the ball then Sexton is at this stage of his career. I also kind of think Murray at 6’4 has a chance to add to his game being able to post up more on smaller guards as he continues to add to his game. 

To me i don’t see Lowry and Sexton backcourt getting you to a title and in the playoffs i think teams will exploit that size difference. I get the cavs stink defensively but sexton’s defense was still bad at 117.7 rating (cavs overall was 114). To put it into perspective, Seth curry got torched at times in the playoffs defensively especially atlanta series, his rating was still 113.1 

just gonna add maybe Lowry returns to his 107, 107 and 106 defensive rating he had the three previous years. But his dropped to 114.5 this past year. It could just be he’s aging at 35 and not the defensive player he was just a couple seasons ago (raptors last year were upper half of the league defensive team so he was one of their worst defenders who played significant minutes). So the starting backcourt in 21-22 had a 114.5 and 117.7 defensive rating. That’s not good as it would be one of the worst starting defensive backcourts based off the 2021 season. 

Ok. I think thats a spectacular trade. However, lets not forget, it doesnt have to be the only/final trade.

I dont know what picks come and go, but we shouldnt really be giving up anything significant in that trade. Maybe we even gain 1 or 2 1sts... Even if not, we still have all of ours. All those 1sts people are talking about giving up for Lillard.

Now, you have that team I just laid out. AND all your young players, all of your picks, and Tobi.

You want to trade Sexton, or Harris and picks for another elite player when an opportunity comes along, go for it. Maybe at the deadline LaVine hasnt agreed to an extension yet. Go get him.  Mid-season Kawhi is healthy- go for it. Maybe something else comes up. Now youve significantly improved the team while maintaining depth, and assets. Another move can easily be made. Thats the goal. Always has been since Hinkie. Maintaining optionality.

 

Maybe you can also trade Tobi and multiple picks for Ingram?

Lowry, Sexton, Ingram, Nance, Embiid

Now you have a chance to score with the Nets.

2 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

Ok. I think thats a spectacular trade. However, lets not forget, it doesnt have to be the only/final trade.

I dont know what picks come and go, but we shouldnt really be giving up anything significant in that trade. Maybe we even gain 1 or 2 1sts... Even if not, we still have all of ours. All those 1sts people are talking about giving up for Lillard.

Now, you have that team I just laid out. AND all your young players, all of your picks, and Tobi.

You want to trade Sexton, or Harris and picks for another elite player when an opportunity comes along, go for it. Maybe at the deadline LaVine hasnt agreed to an extension yet. Go get him.  Mid-season Kawhi is healthy- go for it. Maybe something else comes up. Now youve significantly improved the team while maintaining depth, and assets. Another move can easily be made. Thats the goal. Always has been since Hinkie. Maintaining optionality.

 

Maybe you can also trade Tobi and multiple picks for Ingram?

Lowry, Sexton, Ingram, Nance, Embiid

Now you have a chance to score with the Nets.

Pelicans said they want a star for Ingram. 

Just now, Bwestbrook36 said:

Pelicans said they want a star for Ingram. 

oh oh.

Well, Im sure you can do tobi plus a bunch of picks for someone. Just the point- the Ben trade I brought up doesnt have to be the one and only move. It left a lot of assets on the table for more to be done.