9 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

This would have been a nice game with Maxey and Pritchard playing. 

Without Maxey, I honestly probably wont watch the last game. 

I'm gonna record it and then fast forward it anytime Joe is out of the game.

12 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I kind of wish we didnt re-sign Furk. Hes in the leaugue for a bunch of years now and is still a poor defender and just a streaky shooter.

We can get that same level of streakiness from Joe with far more upside, but not its going to be near impossible for him to get NBA minutes yet again.

 

That is slightly irksome to me. 

What chaps me even more though is giving away both of our 2 way contracts to useless players already. 

Rayjon Tucker has no shot at ever playing in the NBA. And Bassey is going to take a loooong time to be NBA ready.  Why are we ever going to pull up Bassey in the regular season? That be idiotic. Its a waste of that contract.

Reed should still be on a 2 way. Hes not ready yet, but has some experience in case of an absolute emergency. And Petrusev should be the other. He can immediately provide floor stretching, soft touch around the rim. Great pick and roll player. And is providing surprising defense in SL which was totally unexpected.

I think furkan at that price is fine cause he eventually could be traded in a salary match. He’s only 24 and to his credit he has gotten better every year since coming here. Not that he’s great but i could see some team taking him back in a trade and valuing a potential bench shooter. 

I don’t disagree with you I’d rather Joe get the minutes because I think he has higher upside because I actually think he could play average defense in this league. But I don’t mind that contract for the fact I know they can use it as a salary match at some point to make a trade

i actually like kid from Michigan state, allen. He’s a two way contract. Tucker to me is just not good enough to be a consistent nba player. Bassey i think is just a cheap backup that they hope can replace Drummond at the end of this year. I’m guessing it takes him at least 2-3 years before he’s competent if he ever does. 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I think furkan at that price is fine cause he eventually could be traded in a salary match. He’s only 24 and to his credit he has gotten better every year since coming here. Not that he’s great but i could see some team taking him back in a trade and valuing a potential bench shooter. 

I don’t disagree with you I’d rather Joe gets a minute because I think he has higher upside because I actually think he could play average defense in this league. But I don’t mind that contract for the fact I know they can use it as a salary match at some point to make a tree.

i actually like kid from Michigan state, allen. He’s a two way contract. Tucker to me is just not good enough to be a consistent nba player. Bassey i think is just a cheap backup that they hope can replace Drummond at the end of this year. I’m guessing it takes him at least 2-3 years before he’s competent if he ever does. 

oh ok so its Allen and Tucker? Thats better than Tucker and Bassey. For some reason I thought Bassey got a 2 way. 

Id probably rather see Springer have it than Tucker. Springer doesnt belong getting NBA minutes, but at least he is a guy you might be planning on having one day eventually so its not a complete waste like Tucker is. 

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

oh ok so its Allen and Tucker? Thats better than Tucker and Bassey. For some reason I thought Bassey got a 2 way. 

Id probably rather see Springer have it than Tucker. Springer doesnt belong getting NBA minutes, but at least he is a guy you might be planning on having one day eventually so its not a complete waste like Tucker is. 

Tend to think springer gets traded somewhere before he ever sees significant minutes here. 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Tend to think springer gets traded somewhere before he ever sees significant minutes here. 

most likely. 

man Petrusev is only 1-7 shooting today. Not impressive. Daryl definitely gonna leave him on Mega Bemax now for sure.

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

most likely. 

man Petrusev is only 1-7 shooting today. Not impressive. Daryl definitely gonna leave him on Mega Bemax now for sure.

I don’t think he was coming over anyway this year. New HC at Arizona is from Gonzaga. So bunch of ties to Gonzaga. The coaches that were with the zags, didn’t think he would ever become an nba player. It’s part of why he left the program and decided to just play in Europe to Make money. He got better since leaving but they still don’t think hes more than a back end of the rotation nba guy. And likely would make more overseas being a starting type guy then in the nba. 

28 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I don’t think he was coming over anyway this year. New HC at Arizona is from Gonzaga. So bunch of ties to Gonzaga. The coaches that were with the zags, didn’t think he would ever become an nba player. It’s part of why he left the program and decided to just play in Europe to Make money. He got better since leaving but they still don’t think hes more than a back end of the rotation nba guy. And likely would make more overseas being a starting type guy then in the nba. 

He wants to be over though. 

He said he went overseas to add to his game things that they weren't having him do at Gonzaga. ( shooting 3s is the obvious addition to his game there).

But he isn't there to be making money.  He went there trying to develop NBA worthy skills and has stated he wants to come over immediately. 

54 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

He wants to be over though. 

He said he went overseas to add to his game things that they weren't having him do at Gonzaga. ( shooting 3s is the obvious addition to his game there).

But he isn't there to be making money.  He went there trying to develop NBA worthy skills and has stated he wants to come over immediately. 

I can tell you from a coach who was at Gonzaga he went over there to improve his game but also to make money while doing so and Gonzaga couldn’t promise him the minutes he’d need or coaching (ncaa rules didn’t allow for them to have the time to work with him exclusively) to improve enough to make the nba. Gonzaga unlike your bigger schools wasn’t giving players "bags” so he left to improve and make money while doing so. On the minutes aspect gonzaga had better talent in 20-21so his minutes were going to decrease. He was at 26 in 19-20. They believed Timme would get even more mins. Then new freshman recruit ballo (since left to go to Arizona) and sophomore Watson would get more minutes, which would eat into his mins and production. So instead of staying he’d get more mins along with more coaching due to no ncaa rules and also paid well while getting that

 Moreover Arizona’s current HC was his main recruiter as he’s a foreign kid. So he also left because he could make money and get better minutes and play elsewhere to improve his skills. If you don’t think the money had anything to do with it then you are fooling yourself. Was told he’d come if he got the contract guaranteed to play here. Not a two way contract but a contract that guaranteed a bench spot on the sixers. I’m guessing the sixers aren’t going to give him a guaranteed contract like that and he’ll leave to go back overseas similar to what nico mannion just did where he gets minutes to develop and better pay/guaranteed money in his contract. That’s from coaches who coached him his two years at Gonzaga. a ton of foreign players who are drafted say they want to be in the nba immediately until the non first rounders see the contracts they’re going to receive compared to playing more minutes and a lot of the times better money overseas since they are considered higher valued players there at that specific time(besides contractually having to agree to buyouts in higher end foreign prospects who usually the nba is more willing to give guaranteed roster spots too and better contract)

So it was about getting better, making money and eventually coming over to the nba as he made money and got better. At Gonzaga the ncaa limited his ability to work with coaches to improve, he was not gonna get the minutes/playing time he had overseas and he was making nice money doing all that. 

 

 

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I think furkan at that price is fine cause he eventually could be traded in a salary match. He’s only 24 and to his credit he has gotten better every year since coming here. Not that he’s great but i could see some team taking him back in a trade and valuing a potential bench shooter. 

I don’t disagree with you I’d rather Joe get the minutes because I think he has higher upside because I actually think he could play average defense in this league. But I don’t mind that contract for the fact I know they can use it as a salary match at some point to make a trade

i actually like kid from Michigan state, allen. He’s a two way contract. Tucker to me is just not good enough to be a consistent nba player. Bassey i think is just a cheap backup that they hope can replace Drummond at the end of this year. I’m guessing it takes him at least 2-3 years before he’s competent if he ever does. 

Exactly you don't let assets walk away for nothing especially when in cap hell

4 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Exactly you don't let assets walk away for nothing especially when in cap hell

I’m actually surprised Utah let Niang walk away for that reason. I get he’s 27 but i think he could have been an asset in another trade since a matchup salary. They had to know they were getting paschall prior and that’s why they were ok letting him go. However paschall isn’t nearly the shooter from 3 but i do think he’s got a cheaper contract and more upside. 

59 minutes ago, iladelphxx said:

 

 

Heard he can't play D. Can't be

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I can tell you from a coach who was at Gonzaga he went over there to improve his game but also to make money while doing so and Gonzaga couldn’t promise him the minutes he’d need or coaching (ncaa rules didn’t allow for them to have the time to work with him exclusively) to improve enough to make the nba. Gonzaga unlike your bigger schools wasn’t giving players "bags” so he left to improve and make money while doing so. On the minutes aspect gonzaga had better talent in 20-21so his minutes were going to decrease. He was at 26 in 19-20. They believed Timme would get even more mins. Then new freshman recruit ballo (since left to go to Arizona) and sophomore Watson would get more minutes, which would eat into his mins and production. So instead of staying he’d get more mins along with more coaching due to no ncaa rules and also paid well while getting that

 Moreover Arizona’s current HC was his main recruiter as he’s a foreign kid. So he also left because he could make money and get better minutes and play elsewhere to improve his skills. If you don’t think the money had anything to do with it then you are fooling yourself. Was told he’d come if he got the contract guaranteed to play here. Not a two way contract but a contract that guaranteed a bench spot on the sixers. I’m guessing the sixers aren’t going to give him a guaranteed contract like that and he’ll leave to go back overseas similar to what nico mannion just did where he gets minutes to develop and better pay/guaranteed money in his contract. That’s from coaches who coached him his two years at Gonzaga. a ton of foreign players who are drafted say they want to be in the nba immediately until the non first rounders see the contracts they’re going to receive compared to playing more minutes and a lot of the times better money overseas since they are considered higher valued players there at that specific time(besides contractually having to agree to buyouts in higher end foreign prospects who usually the nba is more willing to give guaranteed roster spots too and better contract)

So it was about getting better, making money and eventually coming over to the nba as he made money and got better. At Gonzaga the ncaa limited his ability to work with coaches to improve, he was not gonna get the minutes/playing time he had overseas and he was making nice money doing all that. 

Im sure the money is nice. But he has repeatedly said he went there with the goal of improving to become an NBA player, and he wants to come over immediately. 

The only reason he wont be here is because Morey is deciding to leave him there.

15 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Im sure the money is nice. But he has repeatedly said he went there with the goal of improving to become an NBA player, and he wants to come over immediately. 

The only reason he wont be here is because Morey is deciding to leave him there.

 What was he going to say? Gonzaga wasn’t going to me money and the opportunity to improve as well. He was never going to be like i left because of money. I can tell you multiple Arizona players who left early and went overseas claiming it was to improve when it as much about the money. You seem to have this theory only reason he decided to leave Gonzaga was simply because he wasnt going to get better cause that’s what he’s claiming. I’m telling you from coaches who know him and coached him it is not strictly that

he’s not over here Because he’s not good enough yet to warrant an NBA contract which is what he wants to come over here. If the Sixers gave him a crappy G league contract to be here I’m betting you he isn’t considering it at all. So can say it’s not about the money but really it is partially cause he makes better money there in Europe then he would g league. I would also like to come over immediately and be in the NBA if I got offered an guaranteed NBA contract too. 

6 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 What was he going to say? Gonzaga wasn’t going to me money and the opportunity to improve as well. He was never going to be like i left because of money. I can tell you multiple Arizona players who left early and went overseas claiming it was to improve when it as much about the money. You seem to have this theory only reason he decided to leave Gonzaga was simply because he wasnt going to get better cause that’s what he’s claiming. I’m telling you from coaches who know him and coached him it is not strictly that

he’s not over here Because he’s not good enough yet to warrant an NBA contract which is what he wants to come over here. If the Sixers gave him a crappy G league contract to be here I’m betting you he isn’t considering it at all. 

Im not talking about him leaving and I have no theory on him leaving. Im talking about him wanting to come back. He wants to. Period. Theres no argument here to be had.

 

15 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Im not talking about him leaving and I have no theory on him leaving. Im talking about him wanting to come back. He wants to. Period. Theres no argument here to be had.

 

No crap if he got an nba guaranteed contract with a guaranteed roster spot he’d want to come over immediately  any player would  

Besides Morey doesn’t think he’s good enough right now. He isn’t coming here if the sixers told him he’s was on a two way contract he’d choose Europe over that. That’s what I’ve been saying two posts now. He’d just go back to Europe due to playing time and money based on the two way contract. He’d only play here on the states if he got a nba contract and guaranteed roster spot which Morey wasn’t doing anyway. So if the sixers offered a spot in the g league or two way contract he was going to decline anyway

You think he warrants a guaranteed nba contract and roster spot? if anyone was guaranteed a nba roster spot and contract they would. However he was never gonna get that. so yeah of course he’d gonna say he wants to because he wants that type of nba contract and guaranteed roster spot otherwise he’d never leave Europe anyway due to money and playing time with a lesser contract here. 

what he said about going

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"My perimeter skills, especially shooting, which obviously I wasn’t doing much at GU," said Filip when asked what he improved upon the most this year. "Threes, midrange, all that. Just building my game from that because I knew I was going to need that for the next level and this team allowed me to do it."

 

And what he said another time about going

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"At Gonzaga, I was mostly playing inside,” he said. "Back home, I got to play a lot outside, popping, shooting threes, handling as well. So I feel like I became a complete player.”

The team recently sent notable big men Nikola Jokić, Ivica Zubac and Goga Bitadze to the NBA. Mega has a reputation for giving young players freedom to showcase and work on their skills against competitive ABA League foes.

"And then the fact that I played against pros, definitely got me closer to the NBA,” Petrušev said, "and got me more ready for it because [I was playing against] grown men.”

While Petrušev says he’s more ready for the NBA, Sixers president of basketball operation Daryl Morey said he will remain overseas as a draft-and-stash player next season. The thing is, Petrušev can opt out of his contract with Mega.

 

 

5 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

No crap if he got an nba guaranteed contract with a guaranteed roster spot he’d want to come over immediately  any player would  

Besides Morey doesn’t think he’s good enough right now. He isn’t coming here if the sixers told him he’s was on a two way contract he’d choose Europe over that. That’s what I’ve been saying two posts now. He’d just go back to Europe due to playing time and money based on the two way contract. He’d only play here on the states if he got a nba contract and guaranteed roster spot which Morey wasn’t doing anyway

You think he warrants a guaranteed nba contract and roster spot? if anyone was guaranteed a nba roster spot and contract they would. However he was never gonna get that. so yeah of course he’d gonna say he wants to because he wants that type of nba contract and guaranteed roster spot otherwise he’d never leave Europe anyway due to money and playing time with a lesser contract here. 

He deserves an actual contract a hell of a lot more than Bassey does. Bassey is apparently going to get it, and Filip is not. Thats stupid.

As far as it being a regular NBA contract, or a 2 way he specifically said he wants to be here as fast as possible.

"I always try to set high expectations,” said Petrusev. "Mine would be to just get to the NBA as fast as possible, start learning, start getting the experience as a young guy and just finding my role.”

https://heavy.com/sports/philadelphia-76ers/filip-petrusev-presser/

7 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

what he said about going

 

And what he said another time about going

 

You can think whatever you want those textbook PC answers. You can believe it was solely about just improving. Then you are pretty naive. I trust the coaches who recruited him as a teenager and coached him two years at Gonzaga that his move wasnt strictly improving his craft. That money he got was pretty damn nice that he got 

5 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

As far as it being a regular NBA contract, or a 2 way he specifically said he wants to be here as fast as possible.

"I always try to set high expectations,” said Petrusev. "Mine would be to just get to the NBA as fast as possible, start learning, start getting the experience as a young guy and just finding my role.”

https://heavy.com/sports/philadelphia-76ers/filip-petrusev-presser/

Where in there does it say he’d take a two way contract. So just cause he said fast as possible means he’d gladly accept a two way contract. See how he doesn’t mention the g league where he’d likely start on a g league contract or two way. Only nba 

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

You can think whatever you want those textbook PC answers. You can believe it was solely about just improving. Then you are pretty naive. I trust the coaches who recruited him as a teenager in Europe and coached him two years at Gonzaga that his move was t strictly improving his craft 

He was Gonzaga's best player. On a national championship contending team. He could have racked up the accolades if he stayed.

Clearly he felt held back by them. He went overseas to a team known for letting guys showcase themselves for the NBA. He added things to his game. All for the goal of being in the NBA.

Gonzaga coaches had their best player leave them. Theyll say things.

But hes the guy who left to go do something. He did what he said he wanted to do and improved his game big time. And obviously its all for the purpose of getting to the NBA so as soon as he would get the opportunity, obviously he would be here.

I trust him more than a salty coach that had his best player leave the program and go somewhere else and look way better. Sorry. Filip's version of the story makes more sense, and his his statistics backing his words and actions.

Obviously the money was nice while he went over. But hes not about to pass up an opportunity to get in to the NBA when thats what hes been doing everything to be able to do.

5 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

He was Gonzaga's best player. On a national championship contending team. He could have racked up the accolades if he stayed.

Clearly he felt held back by them. He went overseas to a team known for letting guys showcase themselves for the NBA. He added things to his game. All for the goal of being in the NBA.

Gonzaga coaches had their best player leave them. Theyll say things.

But hes the guy who left to go do something. He did what he said he wanted to do and improved his game big time. And obviously its all for the purpose of getting to the NBA so as soon as he would get the opportunity, obviously he would be here.

I trust him more than a salty coach that had his best player leave the program and go somewhere else and look way better. Sorry. Filip's version of the story makes more sense, and his his statistics backing his words and actions.

Obviously the money was nice while he went over. But hes not about to pass up an opportunity to get in to the NBA when thats what hes been doing everything to be able to do.

Again you can live in your world with no sources and listening to basic PC presser quotes. More power to you. I’d believe coaches who are still in touch with him and never had a bad relationship with him even after he left Gonzaga. 

I’ll make it real simple he was never coming over to the sixers even if they offered him a g league or two way contract. You can believe whatever you want. It’s the same reason Nico mannion just left the warriors. 

if you’d think money, not having to go to class and having a reduction of mins to new recruits coming in (which i mentioned) wasn’t part of his decision you are really naive. 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Again you can live in your world with no sources and listening to basic PC presser quotes. More power to you. I’d believe coach who are still in touch with him and never had a bad relationship with him even after he left Gonzaga. 

I’ll make it real simple he was never coming over to the sixers even if they offered him a g league or two way contract. You can believe whatever you want. It’s the same reason Nico mannion just left the warriors. 

He signed a 2 year contract with that team. But, it has an out. I wonder why he would make sure he had an out...hmmmm....

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

He signed a 2 year contract with that team. But, it has an out. I wonder why he would make sure he had an out...hmmmm....

Not for a two way nba contract or a g league contract. Hmmm wonder why he didn’t put that out there when he said he do anything to make it as fast as possible. Hmmmmm.

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Not for a two way nba contract or a g league contract. Hmmm wonder why he didn’t put that out there when he said he do anything. Hmmmmm 

He said he wants to be in the NBA as fast as possible. Id believe he isnt coming over for a g league contract. He should be getting the 2nd round contract that apparently Bassey is supposed to get.

11 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

He said he wants to be in the NBA as fast as possible. Id believe he isnt coming over for a g league contract. He should be getting the 2nd round contract that apparently Bassey is supposed to get.

 he wasn’t coming over for a two way contract either. even if the sixers offered him that. If he got a legitimate nba contract and guaranteed roster spot then yes he would. However that type of contract would be a upgrade over a 2 way, Europe league and g league contract. What I’m telling you is that part of the reason why the sixers made the decision they did was due to he wasn’t leaving for a 2 way or g league contract. And didn’t think he was good enough to warrant an nba roster spot or legit nba contract 

basically what happened to Nico is what would happen after a year here. Nico drafted in the second round. He signed a 2 way contract. This free agency decided to bolt for Europe for more money and more playing time to improve upon himself. It’s why draymond supported him

 

In Draymond's eyes, that's a win-win for all parties.

"Go make money and go where you're gonna play," Mannion told KRON4's Jason Dumas about Green's message when weighing his options "... He said, 'If it were me I'd go where I'm gonna get paid and go where I'm gonna play.' He said, 'You're good enough to go over there, perform and come back.' "
 

it’s why i say sixers didnt offer him a 2 way and he wouldn’t have accepted it either.