2 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I doubt a coach is going to get them both to grow up simultaneously.  Their issues aren't coachable.  It is character.  

this is a little sports talk radio-y... but is also something you only can get from someone whos watched almost all of the games. And saw Simmons in the playoffs vs the Celtics where he would've preferred to be anywhere else in the world, than in Boston and taking on the challenge of taking the open jumpers they were giving him to help the team win. And combining that with the fact that Simmons still hasn't evolved his game (implemented the jumper) is how you end up with thought processes like this. Embiid is immature with his personality and Simmons is immature with his ego. He could've been a Magic Johnson type player but instead he's going to tap out as Tall Rondo. Can't even call him Lamar Odom, bc Odom shot the ball. 

And sure, Tall Rondo is a good player. But he's not Magic Johnson, which he couldve been if he really wanted to. 

3 minutes ago, JBENT87 said:

this is a little sports talk radio-y... but is also something you only can get from someone whos watched almost all of the games. And saw Simmons in the playoffs vs the Celtics where he would've preferred to be anywhere else in the world, than in Boston and taking on the challenge of taking the open jumpers they were giving him to help the team win. And combining that with the fact that Simmons still hasn't evolved his game (implemented the jumper) is how you end up with thought processes like this. Embiid is immature with his personality and Simmons is immature with his ego. He could've been a Magic Johnson type player but instead he's going to tap out as Tall Rondo. Can't even call him Lamar Odom, bc Odom shot the ball. 

And sure, Tall Rondo is a good player. But he's not Magic Johnson, which he couldve been if he really wanted to. 

My biggest issue is how he peacocks in offseason videos where he's shooting and doing amazing dunks for twitter, then turtles when it matters.  Oh and the Kardashian thing.  He's very full of himself.  It's the younger generation, I guess.  My biggest issue with Embiid is how he gets all emotional and says he is fully committed, for the cameras and the press, after getting eliminated.  Then never changes or shows full commitment to his game, conditioning or winning.  None of that is talk radio-y.  It's obvious.  

Solid read. 
 

i still think if Paul is acquired there’s a secondary move coming with Simmons. 

First I've seen a rumor involving Tobias Harris

https://phillysportsnetwork.com/2020/10/30/are-the-dallas-mavericks-looking-to-reunite-tobi-and-bobi/amp/

 

I don't really like the writer's trade proposal. I'd like a pick. Get a 3rd team involved for that or at least a centerpiece in the deal other than/better than Hardaway.

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

First I've seen a rumor involving Tobias Harris

https://phillysportsnetwork.com/2020/10/30/are-the-dallas-mavericks-looking-to-reunite-tobi-and-bobi/amp/

 

I don't really like the writer's trade proposal. I'd like a pick. Get a 3rd team involved for that or at least a centerpiece in the deal other than/better than Hardaway.

I got you 

I was looking at that and thinking those mavs players are just so underwhelming. Then I got down to the 6ers outgoing players and saw you slid Horford in and was like YES. Do it. 

How does that work? Mavs have cap space?

3 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

First I've seen a rumor involving Tobias Harris

https://phillysportsnetwork.com/2020/10/30/are-the-dallas-mavericks-looking-to-reunite-tobi-and-bobi/amp/

 

I don't really like the writer's trade proposal. I'd like a pick. Get a 3rd team involved for that or at least a centerpiece in the deal other than/better than Hardaway.

I like that trade in the short term and get out of that contract. Hardaway is a solid nba player 

29 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

I like that trade in the short term and get out of that contract. Hardaway is a solid nba player 

I guess Hardaway is almost like the Tobias Harris of SGs. Its pretty fair. Somehow the name recognition doesnt do it for me. Really feels like a downgrade, even if just slightly. And the glimmer of hope that Doc gets Tobi back to Clippers form. 

But, yeah Hardaway would be an 18M expiring, and Harris' contract would be gone. That might be something Morey is very interested in. But, I think he would also love to get picks thrown in there too. Cap space, and picks. 

Hinkie was asked for his reaction to Morey joining the 76ers.

"I was stoked," said Hinkie. "I'm stoked now. I think it's great news. He's not a good hire. He's a great hire. It's a really big move for the franchise. For a franchise I care a lot about. With a bunch of people I care a lot about. I just think it portends really great things for the future, for the Sixers. Which remains meaningful to me. So I'm stoked."

There have many suggestions that the 76ers will have to eventually break up Joel Embiid and Ben Simmons via trade, which Hinkie believes is not something that should be treated as an absolute necessity. 

"Oh gosh. Don't people remember what it took to get them? Right? For all of them," said Hinkie. "Getting a star player in the NBA is like not impossibly hard, but close. Right? And requires an incredible amount of luck, or an amazing amount of time, or some other way to try to get at it. What is Joel? 26? To have a young player who is nominally in a traditional sense just entering his prime and say 'We've got to blank.' No, job one is you've got to get great players on your team. That's job one. And he is one. I'm not alone on this."

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/260076/NBA-NBPA-Agree-To-Extend-CBA-Termination-Deadline-To-Nov-6

The NBA and NBPA have extended today's deadline for either side to serve notice on terminating the collective bargaining agreement until Friday, November 6th.

Both sides are continuing to negotiate a number of issues ahead of the 20-21 season and are expected to maintain a dialogue over the weekend.

The main issues for the sides to come agreement on are when the season will start and the percentage of salary that will be withheld to players in escrow.

The NBA would like to begin the season on December 22nd, while the players have pushed for a January 18th start date.

The NBA and union have essentially agreed to a salary cap of $109 million for the 20-21 season.

 

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/260071/NBA-May-Offer-Players-50-Game-Season-If-They-Push-For-Jan-18th-Start

The NBA may offer the NBPA a 50-game season if the players maintain their position of wanting the season to start on Martin Luther King Day on January 18th. The league is pushing for a 72-game season beginning on Christmas Day.

Because compensation for players adheres to a regular season schedule, a 50-game season would mean a significant reduction in revenues.

The NBA's 72-game model beginning on December 22nd calls for approximately 14 games per month through May, followed by the playoffs through mid-July prior to the start of the Olympics on July 23rd.

The NBA's television partners do not want the 20-21 season to extend past mid-July.

A resolution is expected by next week given the condensed timetable that will be required with either start date.

Hinkie was first asked about rejoining the Philadelphia 76ers, which on the face seems like a better chance than previously considering Daryl Morey was just hired by the team.

"Oh, zero," said Hinkie. "Zero. I've turned that chapter for sure. That part of my life. I very much like what I'm doing now. I like surrounding myself with people who think in sort of the timeframes I do, which is often longer. That are quite comfortable with long feedback loops. That want to do the kinds of things I do, which is bet on young people and watch them flourish."

Torre then asked Hinkie about working in any capacity within the NBA.

"Zero. Zero. The same," said Hinkie. 

Hinkie now runs a venture capital firm called Eighty-Seven Capital that raised $50 million earlier this year.

13 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

I guess Hardaway is almost like the Tobias Harris of SGs. Its pretty fair. Somehow the name recognition doesnt do it for me. Really feels like a downgrade, even if just slightly. And the glimmer of hope that Doc gets Tobi back to Clippers form. 

But, yeah Hardaway would be an 18M expiring, and Harris' contract would be gone. That might be something Morey is very interested in. But, I think he would also love to get picks thrown in there too. Cap space, and picks. 

You wouldnt take that Curry and Hardaway trade? Curry is the perfect 6th man and can shoot almost as well as his brother. 

3 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

You wouldnt take that Curry and Hardaway trade? Curry is the perfect 6th man and can shoot almost as well as his brother. 

Curry was one of my top wants as a free agent last year. I do want him. But those 2 for Harris is underwhelming to me. 

31 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Curry was one of my top wants as a free agent last year. I do want him. But those 2 for Harris is underwhelming to me. 

Harris has one of the worst contracts in NBA and we need a shooter badly.  

8 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

Harris has one of the worst contracts in NBA and we need a shooter badly.  

Yeah it's a great trade too shed the contact. 

In terms of on the court it seems underwhelming to me.

8 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

Harris has one of the worst contracts in NBA and we need a shooter badly.  

Agree. 

Harris value isn't as good as one may think. Dude is average with a max contract, best option is to get out of it while still can. 

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Yeah it's a great trade too shed the contact. 

In terms of on the court it seems underwhelming to me.

If we are keeping Simmons and Embiid, we need shooters.  Harris is too inconsistent.  

Curry shot 45% from 3 on 5 attempts and Hardaway 40% on 7 attempts last year. That would be amazing value for Harris with Hardaway being a FA at the end of the year 

 

I really only picked those players because of contracts. If we’re trading one of these contracts I want it to be for a way out and cap space. Also every trade I make will involve horford. 

23 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

If we are keeping Simmons and Embiid, we need shooters.  Harris is too inconsistent.  

This reasoning does not grade the 3 players on the same scale. If we are to assume Doc cant fix Harris and get him back to his Clippers form where Doc was his coach, then we also should assume that Doc isnt fixing the broken dynamic of Ben and Embiid either. 

Grading a Harris trade based on the assumption that he still stinks and the team will be built around a Joel and Ben renaissance is biased thinking. 

Harris was supposed to be a star level player when we brought him in. And has a chance with Doc back to be utilized in that same way where he thrived with LAC. To trade him for a couple role players is underwhelming in a basketball sense. I get the contract implications and its a great trade along those lines. But basketball-wise. Its not good. 

Technically, he should be allowed every opportunity to succeed under the new coaching staff that Joel and Ben are afforded.  You may have an all-star caliber player here (if you wait and see what Doc can do with him again) that youre about to trade for 2 role players with expiring deals without giving it a chance first.

35 to 40 million a year for the next four years and come on Harris is no where near a star. He is a quality 3rd or 4th option in a  good team and on a bad team will have inflated stats. 

 

2 hours ago, DaEagles4Life said:

35 to 40 million a year for the next four years and come on Harris is no where near a star. He is a quality 3rd or 4th option in a  good team and on a bad team will have inflated stats. 

 

But the LA version of him was.

44 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

But the LA version of him was.

Come on man, a star?? Those teams finished 10th and 8th the two years he was there. His numbers are pretty much the same the last four years. 

Dude had never made an All Star team, All Pro or any type of accolade. He has never been a star and never will be one and stars aren't on 5 teams before they are 30. 

Im not ready to give up on Harris yet. Want to see what doc can get out of him

id trade horford for a bag of doritos

57 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Come on man, a star?? Those teams finished 10th and 8th the two years he was there. His numbers are pretty much the same the last four years. 

Dude had never made an All Star team, All Pro or any type of accolade. He has never been a star and never will be one and stars aren't on 5 teams before they are 30. 

You don't seem to be remember what he was doing 2 years ago with Doc and the Clippers.

If he gets to that level and we add a competent guard in the draft,  and with the MLE we are really set well.