1 hour ago, jsb235 said:

Reagor said he is playing the slot a lot. This makes me think Watkins may be moving up the depth chart, as he would be the natural replacement for Reagor at the Z.

 

Heard Reagor has been moving around as well said lot more interchangeable at WR so far then Doug. I do think Watkins is a sleeper watching some clips of him from last year dude is explosive seemed to catch the ball well good in space. Can always use guys like that. Looks like he could be especially dangerous with screens and sweeps things we seem to be emphasizing early on for our O 

1 hour ago, jsb235 said:

Mailata appears to be ahead of Dillard on the depth chart at LT right now. Obviously it's early days, but I think that is a pretty obvious decision. Dillard shouldn't be handed anything.

I’ve said this from the start it should be Mailata job to loss Dillard should only get the job if he flat out beats Mailata no questions. 

Our WR room is going to be tough to cut down.

Smith/Reagor are locks they aren’t going anywhere.

Fulgham- who I’d say is likely safe.

Waktins/Hightower who I both showed some promising traits as rookies that we could build on. 
Ward- still reliable guy maybe the best hands on the team the vet though still young what like 25-26 

Grimes- the UDFA generating some hype big body guy knows our QB coach who was his former OC. 
 

JJaw- don’t want to call him a tough cut likely be easy if he isn’t showing anything at this point but he still on roster so figured I’d add him at least 

5 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Our WR room is going to be tough to cut down.

Smith/Reagor are locks they aren’t going anywhere.

Fulgham- who I’d say is likely safe.

Waktins/Hightower who I both showed some promising traits as rookies that we could build on. 
Ward- still reliable guy maybe the best hands on the team the vet though still young what like 25-26 

Grimes- the UDFA generating some hype big body guy knows our QB coach who was his former OC. 
 

JJaw- don’t want to call him a tough cut likely be easy if he isn’t showing anything at this point but he still on roster so figured I’d add him at least 

that is 8 how many we keep?

10 minutes ago, stine said:

that is 8 how many we keep?

Thinking 6 will be the number so two won’t be on the team Grimes maybe can slip to the PS. Ward over JJaw.... be interesting to see how it plays out.
 

Listed 8 guys actually have two other WRs for a total of 10 at the moment so 4-5cuts. 

18 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Our WR room is going to be tough to cut down.

Smith/Reagor are locks they aren’t going anywhere.

Fulgham- who I’d say is likely safe.

Waktins/Hightower who I both showed some promising traits as rookies that we could build on. 
Ward- still reliable guy maybe the best hands on the team the vet though still young what like 25-26 

Grimes- the UDFA generating some hype big body guy knows our QB coach who was his former OC. 
 

JJaw- don’t want to call him a tough cut likely be easy if he isn’t showing anything at this point but he still on roster so figured I’d add him at least 

Jason Avant talked a lot about JJAW and Ward today in his podcast.

Here's the link.

Get Julio? | Punched By B-Dawk | Jalen Hurts Down With KYP? | Q&A With Quintin Mikell & Jason Avant - YouTube

It was somewhat too complicated to sum up in a few sentences, but it involved discussion on the ability of receivers to freelance within the confines of an offense, something Sirianni has said he wants to see more of this year.

If I was handicapping it right now, my guess would be Smith, Watkins and Reagor are the starters at the X, Z and Y, with JJAW being the H back, and Fulgham and Ward making it as the reserves. I think the choice will come down to Ward or Hightower, and that Hightower will either play his way onto or off the team in preseason. It will be interesting to see how they use Fulgham, if he is just an X or if they use him as an H back.

As far as Grimes, he is a former 5 star recruit who has all the physical tools. But there's a reason he went undrafted. His lack of effort shows up on tape. He runs bad routes, has bad hands and is a bad blocker. I don't think he can fix all of those problems quick enough to earn a roster spot. Hightower is somewhat the same, although he is a really, really good route runner. But he has bad hands and shies away from contact.  

4 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

Hightower is somewhat the same, although he is a really, really good route runner. But he has bad hands and shies away from contact.

The route running is key for me he can get open. Feel like catching the ball is easy fix.

7 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

with JJAW being the H back

If he made the team would you list him then as a TE??? Guess the outcome would be the same if JJaw makes the team WR/TE the H-back role if we use that. Likely means it’s one less spot for another WR. 

12 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

If he made the team would you list him then as a TE??? Guess the outcome would be the same if JJaw makes the team WR/TE the H-back role if we use that. Likely means it’s one less spot for another WR. 

I don't think they will ever call him a TE because he can't line up as a TE1. But he will essentially have the same role in the offense that Richard Rodgers had last year, and which has been filled by guys like Trey Burton. One other positive sign for him was that he played on special teams in the final game last year, and that is pretty key for a person in his position. If he can add that component to his game, his path to the roster gets a lot easier.

2 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

I don't think they will ever call him a TE because he can't line up as a TE1. But he will essentially have the same role in the offense that Richard Rodgers had last year, and which has been filled by guys like Trey Burton. One other positive sign for him was that he played on special teams in the final game last year, and that is pretty key for a person in his position. If he can add that component to his game, his path to the roster gets a lot easier.

Just find it hard that JJaw would be our top option for that position with the list of guys we have at TE.... I mean Butler would seem to have an edge over JJaw for that role. Got Wilson, Croom, Tyree Jackson converting. So unless the thought was to move JJaw to that 3rd TE/6TH WR type role might be more beneficial for someone else. 
 

Good chance a guy like Stoll could make the team as TE#2 as that more inline blocking type. 

40 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

The route running is key for me he can get open. Feel like catching the ball is easy fix.

like Agholor.... Only caught the ball when we got rid of him.....

12 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Just find it hard that JJaw would be our top option for that position with the list of guys we have at TE.... I mean Butler would seem to have an edge over JJaw for that role. Got Wilson, Croom, Tyree Jackson converting. So unless the thought was to move JJaw to that 3rd TE/6TH WR type role might be more beneficial for someone else. 
 

Good chance a guy like Stoll could make the team as TE#2 as that more inline blocking type. 

I think Croom and Stoll are the only candidates on the roster right now for the TE2 spot. And Stoll probably has the inside edge being younger.

Butler, Wilson and Jackson are all candidates for the hybrid role, and I would add Grimes to that list as well. To me, JJAW has a few advantages over everyone else. He played that role in the final game last year and did well, especially the blocking part. He has shown that he has decent hands and he is a "high effort" guy, as shown by his fumble recovery in the end zone last year. Plus, for better or for worse, the team spent a high draft pick on him, so he's going to get first shot at the job.

Jackson is a monster, but he is probably a year away at least from a route running perspective. Wilson couldn't keep Rodgers off the roster last year, and no one wants Rodgers.

I will admit that I have a soft spot for JJAW. I think he was put in a bad spot by the team, and asked to do things he just can't do. But he kept his head up and put in 100 percent effort every time he was on the field, and actually played well at the end of the year. At the same time, if someone outplays him, that would be a best case scenario. But I think a lot of fans just think he's bad at football because he isn't an X receiver. But just because he can't play outside consistently doesn't mean he should be scrapped, especially since the guys who are next up aren't very inspiring.

 

5 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

I will admit that I have a soft spot for JJAW.

No issues with it you gotta like a guy that is willing to give you 110% and doesn’t seem like JJaw lacks effort. I’m just looking at it from a position versatility stand point. JJaw as of now couldn’t fill in at TE but a guy like Butler can and even give you emergency WR if need be.
Think if we wanted to move JJaw to that H-back role we might consider transitioning him to TE. 

44 minutes ago, stine said:

like Agholor.... Only caught the ball when we got rid of him.....

AG had mental stuff going on that clearly wasn’t help by the Eagles media and fan base. 
 

I think Hightower just needs time dude was a 5th rounder thrown to the wolves. I thought Hightower needed to bulk up and to his frame get stronger which all should happen with a full off-season with NFL trainers. 

But it’s why I think the Eagles could have some tough decisions to make at the WR position we have some really intriguing talent at WR. Will any of them be able to put it all to good use and be successful mmm guess we will find out. Hopefully Siri and Co. can do much better then Doug and company 

They will list Grimes as either WR or TE, won't matter, his role will be the same regardless of designation. I feel like the TE "carry over" who we have given chances too need to go and let someone else have a try at it. Grimes should be TE3 even if they list him as a WR. Obviously, as I said before nowhere near the talent of Pitts, but he can be used the same way and I think we give him a year to see what he can do. Can't hurt, if he can't cut it next year is a great chance to replace alot of positions

I'm really liking what I am hearing about Gainwell, he could be the steal of the draft. He breaks QUICKLY. He can become a real nightmare for LB's. Nice short yardage guy in the PASSING game.(Sproles? lol) I'm liking our RZ offensive chances much better. We need to just get inside the 10 yard line (THEIRS not OURS HAHAHA)

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10003862-nfl-changes-rule-prohibiting-players-from-blocking-below-the-waist  Oh good more rules to pu**ify the game. Why not wrap them all in bubble wrap and be done with it

28 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10003862-nfl-changes-rule-prohibiting-players-from-blocking-below-the-waist  Oh good more rules to pu**ify the game. Why not wrap them all in bubble wrap and be done with it

I didn't know they quit wearing cups. 

I just don’t know about JJAW. Feeling if Wentz would have thrown him the ball he would have produced more. Played hard and seems coachable. We had a little lapse at WR coach. JJaW is a good blocking Wr. So if you add some receiving stats he’s looking mediocre. Which is where I think he should be at if Wentz just helped him develop.

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I just don’t know about JJAW. Feeling if Wentz would have thrown him the ball he would have produced more. Played hard and seems coachable. We had a little lapse at WR coach. JJaW is a good blocking Wr. So if you add some receiving stats he’s looking mediocre. Which is where I think he should be at if Wentz just helped him develop.

Sounds like a cop out to blame the QB... Plenty of WRs did just fine with Wentz. Trust and chemistry goes a long way with QB-WRs it’s a two way street both parties have to put in the work. 
Im hoping the best for JJaw and he puts it together but definitely not putting it on Wentz that he has been a bust so far in his career 

16 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Sounds like a cop out to blame the QB... Plenty of WRs did just fine with Wentz. Trust and chemistry goes a long way with QB-WRs it’s a two way street both parties have to put in the work. 
Im hoping the best for JJaw and he puts it together but definitely not putting it on Wentz that he has been a bust so far in his career 

Just doesn’t feel like he was ever targeted. Can’t always get two steps on a guy like DJax and Agholor did. Agholor we saw his trouble with tracking the ball. So Wentz and the whole fan base was pretty much over his drops. JJAW had the HUGE drop to start his career. I can only think of one or two more. Wentz threw those same type balls to Alshon or Ertz. Those two he trusted. But even Alshon had stuff to say about it. Goedert it feels like has been underutilized by Wentz also. 

28 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Sounds like a cop out to blame the QB... Plenty of WRs did just fine with Wentz. Trust and chemistry goes a long way with QB-WRs it’s a two way street both parties have to put in the work. 
Im hoping the best for JJaw and he puts it together but definitely not putting it on Wentz that he has been a bust so far in his career 

Seemed like Wentz put most his efforts toward chemistry with DJax and Ertz.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Seemed like Wentz put most his efforts toward chemistry with DJax and Ertz.

Two of his top weapons or supposed to be. He also had good chemistry with Ward who he also trusted. He took his shot with Hightower early on gave him plenty of chances maybe even to many. 
Again QB-WR relationship is tricky it built on trust and chemistry with each even more so with guys like Alshon/Ertz/Ward/JJaw these aren’t guys that are going to be super wide open 

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Just doesn’t feel like he was ever targeted. Can’t always get two steps on a guy like DJax and Agholor did. Agholor we saw his trouble with tracking the ball. So Wentz and the whole fan base was pretty much over his drops. JJAW had the HUGE drop to start his career. I can only think of one or two more. Wentz threw those same type balls to Alshon or Ertz. Those two he trusted. But even Alshon had stuff to say about it. Goedert it feels like has been underutilized by Wentz also. 

Nobody was targeted,that is the problem. Any 1k yard WR's around here? Wentz was too busy taking sacks and throwing random picks to target anyone

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Seemed like Wentz put most his efforts toward chemistry with DJax and Ertz.

Sure,those were our 2 top threats,why wouldn't he?