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1 hour ago, Procus said:

What's your take on getting Howard and Scott into the mix?

IDK they are all 3 similar backs Scott,Gains,Sanders), so I was kind of surprised Howard went to the PS,he's more of a banger. If we need him for a certain set in the present game wecan't use him

 

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1 hour ago, Procus said:

What's your take on getting Howard and Scott into the mix?

Scott was fairly effective last year with a suck O line. Apparently they like Gains better,still he should get some snaps in IMO

8 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Scott was fairly effective last year with a suck O line. Apparently they like Gains better,still he should get some snaps in IMO

I just hope Scott is active when they play the Giants.

46 minutes ago, Procus said:

I just hope Scott is active when they play the Giants.

We should have a ground game vs them at least

 

15 hours ago, Procus said:

Nah, Pederson was a seasoned NFL player who had a long career.  Had a nice stint as a coach learning under Andy Reid as well.  Same goes for Reich.  Both of them had a few laps around the block in the NFL before they came to Philly as coaches.

No they didn’t yes they had playing careers but Doug Peterson the coach he was coaching HS football in 2008 became our HC in 2016 so 8 years as an NFL coach… Siri been in the NFL since 09 been coaching since 04…. So again Siri actually comes in with more coaching experience as a first time HC then Doug Pederson wasn’t opinion just a fact. 
 

Same goes for Steichan and Reich… Reich started to coach in 08 become our OC in 16… Steichen started coaching in the NfL in 2011 decade later becomes our OC. Both come with like two your stints as Chargers OCs before becoming our OC Reich 14-15 and Steichen 19-20 

Damn we don’t play today should be happy 3-3 on the Eagles games to start the season though being able to watch them on TV 

On 9/24/2021 at 9:03 PM, GreenbleedinNC said:

14 carries,55 yards-UNLEASHED!!!!! Dang stat machine 🤣(and h'es killing me in fantasy too)

Why is he killing you in fantasy, at best he should be your #3 RB

53 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

No they didn’t yes they had playing careers but Doug Peterson the coach he was coaching HS football in 2008 became our HC in 2016 so 8 years as an NFL coach… Siri been in the NFL since 09 been coaching since 04…. So again Siri actually comes in with more coaching experience as a first time HC then Doug Pederson wasn’t opinion just a fact.

No doubt - but you do need to realize that back in the era when Pederson and Reich were playing, the veteran career backup QB was practically a coach on the field.  Had they played another position, I would agree.

Yes, Siri comes in with more coaching experience - but not more NFL experience.  Reich and Pederson have him beat on that end by miles.

19 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I guess I’m the only one blaming Siri. He’s pretty green. Gotta expect these up and downs. I just want him to develop our receiving corps for the SB winning coach that comes in next.

I feel the same about the QB....just throw enough non screen passes that can help the WRs for the next guy.    I can already see the WRs improvement.  Both of Watkins receptions last week, he borderline pushed off, but did it in a nice subtle way with perfect timing during the routes.    Ertz screening for Smith week 1 without getting a penalty is another example.  Also, when did this team all of a sudden learn to block on bubble screens?  You can already see the fundamental improvements at the WR spot.     For a fast group, their QB can't really take advantage of their speed with his weak arm... he has to release the ball early, which he seems to do well, but it still limits the offense.  This isn't even getting to where he substitutes plays that should be passes for his own runs.   Good for fantasy stats, not so much WR development. 

16 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Why is he killing you in fantasy, at best he should be your #3 RB

He should be a #2. That tells you how little they use him

6 minutes ago, Procus said:

No doubt - but you do need to realize that back in the era when Pederson and Reich were playing, the veteran career backup QB was practically a coach on the field.  Had they played another position, I would agree.

Yes, Siri comes in with more coaching experience - but not more NFL experience.  Reich and Pederson have him beat on that end by miles.

Disagree completely but that’s fine sorry being a player at any position doesn’t equate to being a good coach and more importantly teacher….I think Peyton Manning is arguably the best on the field coach I’ve ever seen but I wouldn’t be running to make him my HC because of it…

Siri what some 15+ years of coaching exp. before becoming an NFL HC 

Steichen 11-12 years of coaching exp. before becoming our OC. 
 

Sorry value that actual coaching experience being required to be able to teach and groom players more then the 13 years playing being that so called VET coach for tail end of his career and the 8 years he was actually coaching.

18 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Why is he killing you in fantasy, at best he should be your #3 RB

My RBs are killing me in FF lol Gaskin and CEH if it wasn’t for King Henry and a huge performance last week I’d just be in a sad state 

13 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I feel the same about the QB....just throw enough non screen passes that can help the WRs for the next guy.    I can already see the WRs improvement.  Both of Watkins receptions last week, he borderline pushed off, but did it in a nice subtle way with perfect timing during the routes.    Ertz screening for Smith week 1 without getting a penalty is another example.  Also, when did this team all of a sudden learn to block on bubble screens?  You can already see the fundamental improvements at the WR spot.     For a fast group, their QB can't really take advantage of their speed with his weak arm... he has to release the ball early, which he seems to do well, but it still limits the offense.  This isn't even getting to where he substitutes plays that should be passes for his own runs.   Good for fantasy stats, not so much WR development. 

Agree, I really want to see Hurts WING one like 60 yards downfield. If he can't do it,then WR devlopment is going to hit a roadblock

RE Sanders. I will leave him in this week in the hopes we can exploit Dullaz weaker D line. I don't suspect he gets past their LB's. That being the case I am looking for solid 4-5 yard gains from him and I would like to see him used at the GL!!!!(good for fantasy,good for Eagles)

6 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Agree, I really want to see Hurts WING one like 60 yards downfield. If he can't do it,then WR devlopment is going to hit a roadblock

I don’t think Hurts has the arm to throw a 60 yard bomb not in air at least…. I mean we seem the ball falling short last week on a couple deep throws mainly to Smith…

Not to say he can’t be a good QB but will require him to throw the ball sooner anticipate guys breaking open and timing with the WRs 

My Dullaz buddy already telling me they will toast us deep lol(I have little ammo to fight back on that point). SO our O line MUST get into their backfield and disrupt Dak and Zeke. On offense I Like the 8-12 yard passing lanes down the middle. Just over their LB's. If we can do that consistently with our TE's or slot on a cross, we can stay in this game

6 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I don’t think Hurts has the arm to throw a 60 yard bomb not in air at least…. I mean we seem the ball falling short last week on a couple deep throws mainly to Smith…

Not to say he can’t be a good QB but will require him to throw the ball sooner anticipate guys breaking open and timing with the WRs 

Welp,then we need to look at  round 1 QB next draft. I'm all for giving Hurts his chance. He's not terrible,but if you don;t have the arm you are best suited as a BU game manager in my view.Like Joe said,if the QB can't throw deep you re limiting the WR development and they appear to be ahead of Hurts talents already

16 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Disagree completely but that’s fine sorry being a player at any position doesn’t equate to being a good coach and more importantly teacher….I think Peyton Manning is arguably the best on the field coach I’ve ever seen but I wouldn’t be running to make him my HC because of it…

Standing alone - your point is well taken.  But when you're a veteran backup QB the way Pederson was, and then coach under Andy Reid and become his OC, the combination of all of that IMO does qualify one to be a HC.  I believe Reich was an NFL coach for close to 10 years before being hired by the Colts.

All good my friend.

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Welp,then we need to look at  round 1 QB next draft. I'm all for giving Hurts his chance. He's not terrible,but if you don;t have the arm you are best suited as a BU game manager in my view.Like Joe said,if the QB can't throw deep you re limiting the WR development and they appear to be ahead of Hurts talents

I see his arm more in the Tom Brady drew Brees realm these guys don’t have cannons not sure they are putting it 60 yards in air but they both throw a nice deep ball. 
 

Of course Hurts is not nearly at either of those guys level as a passer but that were I think he needs to strive to be will never have that natural arm of a mahomes or Josh Allen 

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I see his arm more in the Tom Brady drew Brees realm these guys don’t have cannons not sure they are putting it 60 yards in air but they both throw a nice deep ball. 
 

Of course Hurts is not nearly at either of those guys level as a passer but that were I think he needs to strive to be will never have that natural arm of a mahomes or Josh Allen 

What? Brees and Brady could wing that puppy

Picked up the Raiders defense in Fantasy. Solid 14 points last 2

2 minutes ago, Procus said:

Standing alone - your point is well taken.  But when you're a veteran backup QB the way Pederson was, and then coach under Andy Reid and become his OC, the combination of all of that IMO does qualify one to be a HC.  I believe Reich was an NFL coach for close to 10 years before being hired by the Colts.

All good my friend.

Again not looking at Reich the Hc Reich the OC for us 8 years and and Doug 8 years only two as an OC before becoming a HC…

And the Veteran backup QB argument when does one become that??? Doug enter the NFl in 91 so clearly wasn’t that coach on the field his first few years want to say 99 when he came to Philly as the starter then helped groom Mcnabb ok that’s that’s 5-6 years from then and he retired… plus his 8 years of coaching gives him what 14 years of overall experience….Which still less then the 16 years of coaching before we hired Siri 

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

What? Brees and Brady could wing that puppy

They can threw a nice pass but it wasnt/isn’t 60 yard bombs all in air like Mahomes and Allen… They were more well timed deep passes 

4 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Again not looking at Reich the Hc Reich the OC for us 8 years and and Doug 8 years only two as an OC before becoming a HC…

And the Veteran backup QB argument when does one become that??? Doug enter the NFl in 91 so clearly wasn’t that coach on the field his first few years want to say 99 when he came to Philly as the starter then helped groom Mcnabb ok that’s that’s 5-6 years from then and he retired… plus his 8 years of coaching gives him what 14 years of overall experience….Which still less then the 16 years of coaching before we hired Siri 

They can threw a nice pass but it wasnt/isn’t 60 yard bombs all in air like Mahomes and Allen… They were more well timed deep passes 

Well then lets see them from Hurts. I've seen brees chuck it many times

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Well then lets see them from Hurts. I've seen brees chuck it many times

That what I said from the start lol think Brees is the realm Hurts needs to be in… Again Brees was a great deep ball thrower but he didn’t heave in 60 yards in air like a Mahomes and Allen do… His passes were timed being able to hit a guy 40 yards down field in stride works similar to Hurts pass to Watkins what was it like 40 yards maybe in air but was in stride and he ran it 91 

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