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7 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

OH you call everything under the sun lol. SO which game exactly is he going to go off???(we're still waiting). Maybe you are right,but you won;t ever be right using him 14 carries a game

 

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

The is Sanders "break out year". So far I am not seeing it. But WHEN Sanders has a big game, even if it's week 14 Ham called it!!!!!

He already has posted some numbers that are in rare air. But we’ll just let it play out. Doubt he gets tons of rushing opportunities if we’re down big in the second half though. Of coarse I wouldn’t over use him if we’re up big either.

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Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

 

He already has posted some numbers that are in rare air. But we’ll just let it play out. Doubt he gets tons of rushing opportunities if we’re down big in the second half though. Of coarse I wouldn’t over use him if we’re up big either.

He needs overused some. WTH are we "saving" him for? the SB run this year? 14 carries 55 yards is not overuse. Let's see him run 22-23 and go over 100. Then maybe you will convince me. Does he have a TD this year?

So here's my take A) Siri is back to the Ped abandoning the run B) Sanders is not lighting it up. he is "average" at this point. So you COULD point to coaching OR you could point to lack of production when used and why the COACH is not giving him 20 carries. So which is it?

14 carries-55 yards = 3.9 YPC. hardly HOF material

Packers' Aaron Jones: Hits pay dirt on SNF
by RotoWire Staff | RotoWire

 

Jones rushed 19 times for 82 yards and a touchdown while catching both of his targets for 14 more yards in a 30-28 win over the 49ers on Sunday.   Ham,here is the stat of Jones vs the same defense we faced last week. Now you're telling me GB's O line is better than, ours?

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Drew Brees holds the record for most passing yards in NFL history…but sure that’s the bar Hurts much reach to be a starter.

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7 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So here's my take A) Siri is back to the Ped abandoning the run B) Sanders is not lighting it up. he is "average" at this point. So you COULD point to coaching OR you could point to lack of production when used and why the COACH is not giving him 20 carries. So which is it?

14 carries-55 yards = 3.9 YPC. hardly HOF material

When you’re down two scores is it usual to lean on the running game?

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:
Packers' Aaron Jones: Hits pay dirt on SNF
by RotoWire Staff | RotoWire

 

Jones rushed 19 times for 82 yards and a touchdown while catching both of his targets for 14 more yards in a 30-28 win over the 49ers on Sunday.   Ham,here is the stat of Jones vs the same defense we faced last week. Now you're telling me GB's O line is better than, ours?

Green Bay was up big

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

When you’re down two scores is it usual to lean on the running game?

Green Bay was up big

Excuses,so 2 games now and Sanders has ZERO TD's he should have absolutely run amok at Atl(74 yards, which is better.but should have been well over 100)

Interesting.In 1 fantasy league I left Sanders in this week,only because I have Zeke in that league. 1 or the other will establish a running game. Dullaz LB's will be tough sledding for Sanders. I hope he can get me some points through the air(which has also been lacking at this point

Now historically Sanders has always done well vs Dullaz. They have a much better LB crew now. SO we will see if that stat still holds up.If he can juke by the LB's he could be in for a good night, but I feel he would be more effective in the passing game. You know this rivalry. Records don't matter. It's ALWAYS a WAR. Short/mid passing game,keep the chains moving. Score when you get down in the RZ. Crossing patterns and use of TE's is essential. This is a great game to see if Jjaw is for real with his supposed block out ability. Like Joe said, Hurts needs to make the read and let it go. Indecision will be his downfall if not. And also as Joe said he needs to be accurate(this takes time but I'm hoping we see some light at tunnels end with timing)

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Gotta slow the pass rush early with counters

44 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Drew Brees holds the record for most passing yards in NFL history…but sure that’s the bar Hurts much reach to be a starter.

I highly doubt he will. But he can be that "type" of QB. Talking about his style, not his accomplishments....

52 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

When you’re down two scores is it usual to lean on the running game?

Green Bay was up big

SF was only up by 4 points until 6 minutes into the 4th quarter. So yes, you lean on your running game until that point. In fact, had you leaned on your running game when it was 1st and goal, they probably would  have been ahead before SF scored that TD in the 4th......

50 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Interesting.In 1 fantasy league I left Sanders in this week,only because I have Zeke in that league. 1 or the other will establish a running game. Dullaz LB's will be tough sledding for Sanders. I hope he can get me some points through the air(which has also been lacking at this point

  I have Sanders and Dallas kicker going tonight, but I already have it won so need nothing from either....

SO, had Tucker mot made that 66 Yard FG, I would have been in the running for the Pool this week!  Darn it....

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1 hour ago, stine said:

SF was only up by 4 points until 6 minutes into the 4th quarter. So yes, you lean on your running game until that point. In fact, had you leaned on your running game when it was 1st and goal, they probably would  have been ahead before SF scored that TD in the 4th......

So not leaning on the running game at the goaline was A) allHurts fault B) All Sanders fault or C) on the coach?

6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So not leaning on the running game at the goaline was A) allHurts fault B) All Sanders fault or C) on the coach?

  Fault was Coach. I am not placing a blame on Sanders or Hurts. I wasn't before. Merely stated that they should have run Sanders more than 14 times and here was a time that may have been perfect.....

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27 minutes ago, stine said:

  Fault was Coach. I am not placing a blame on Sanders or Hurts. I wasn't before. Merely stated that they should have run Sanders more than 14 times and here was a time that may have been perfect.....

And I’ll even add there was some perfect RPO chances where Sanders should have received the handoff instead.

So you agree with this..... OK then Next topic lol

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Logan Wilson the LB for Cincy I was high on picked Big Ben off twice yesterday. Had three int for the season already. Sure hope we can start creating some turnovers. Do we ever take the ball away?

Thinking we will get some this year. Gannon's system seems to be a better fit for this team. CB's are actually playing better. Did well against two teams with solid WR's...

Tonite I'll paying attention to who can semi-fill BG's shoes and Dillard/Dickerson. 

5 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Drew Brees holds the record for most passing yards in NFL history…but sure that’s the bar Hurts much reach to be a starter.

And NO has always had nice RB's? to help the passing game??? Karma Kamara is trash?  Some of the old NO RB's are still playing. Can we squeeze a 100 yard game from Sanders? or does Hurts get 100 yards rushing first?

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So not leaning on the running game at the goaline was A) allHurts fault B) All Sanders fault or C) on the coach?

Sanders and /or the O line. Like I said it's all about execution.if you're at the GL and you can't run the ball over,you have a problem somewhere in that 2 yard area.A coach will call a pass BECAUSE he cannot trust his RB to execute. If my "stud" RB has only gained 55 yards all game, you think I should trust him at the GL when he hasn't shown jack all game long? This needs fixed and it nees to start now. Supposed;y we HAVE the O line as stated by yourself).That leaves ONE issue,the RB. Now as far as coaching I will agree with you on a point. Howard needs to dress-period. Having 3 clone RB's doesn't give you many options. We are mssing that banger back. Actually we HAVE him,but he is on the PS and I think that is STUPID

5 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

When you’re down two scores is it usual to lean on the running game?

Depends,was it working before you abandoned it?(you know like WE do?). If you're down big you have more issues than RB

3 hours ago, stine said:

  Fault was Coach. I am not placing a blame on Sanders or Hurts. I wasn't before. Merely stated that they should have run Sanders more than 14 times and here was a time that may have been perfect.....

I will. Sanders needs to execute to the point of being trusted for GL carries(and the O line needs to be trusted to open the holes which I was complaining about before and got bashed for). Now if you want to split that and give Gains 14 carries along with Sanders 14 then I have NP. The problem is even with the RBBC we don't run the ball 28 times a game. Someone is not being trusted to do it. Sanders needs to be a workhorse RB or he needs to be replaced if the O line is as good as everyone tells me they are.WORD

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