2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Mmmm I like Watkins game more but Reagor has been the guy getting targeted and open…

Yeah but Watkins is probably 2nd read.  It's like being the 5th read with a normal QB.

I like our WR trio of Smith, Reagor and Watkins really think if we get a passing game that attacks at all 3 levels we can really open things up.

Reagor Watkins both have abilities to make plays from the bubble screens when teams you know aren’t locked in on them and waiting for them every play.

Seen Reagor beat his man deep early in the game that Hurts missed short, Watkins we seem do great at coming back for the ball on another underthrow making the contested catch.

Smith is just a smooth route runner can get open make guys miss Hurts got Smith killed a couple times staring him down though 

Just now, joemas6 said:

The punter is a stud.   I'm serious,  3 games in and I have man crush on the dude. 

The way this teams plays he needs to be

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I like our WR trio of Smith, Reagor and Watkins really think if we get a passing game that attacks at all 3 levels we can really open things up.

Reagor Watkins both have abilities to make plays from the bubble screens when teams you know aren’t locked in on them and waiting for them every play.

Seen Reagor beat his man deep early in the game that Hurts missed short, Watkins we seem do great at coming back for the ball on another underthrow making the contested catch.

Smith is just a smooth route runner can get open make guys miss Hurts got Smith killed a couple times staring him down though 

Then the problem is at QB

I'm out.pretty disgusted at the moment

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Then the problem is at QB

That or play calling I mean we run the same screens and bubble passes to often in my opinion and expect to catch a team off guard…

RPOs are an issue also Hurts isn’t making his decisions quick enough we got called what 2-3 different times for ineligible player down field that from Hurts holding the ball to long. The OL block like it’s a run on RPOs Hurts can’t dance around for 5 secs 

We have the players,we need a QB. I don't feel Hurts is the answer at all. This "college"  vanilla dink and dunk scheme reminds me too much of Chip. Seriously, Hurts looked like an unprepared HS QB. Very sad to see. So how long will Siri let this clown show continue? I thought the D played well overall. I don't want to hear the "we need to do better" speech(DUH). I was very disappointed that we could not even stay close

In fantasy Sanders is benched. I thought we could run a little on them, or get more yards out of the backfield, but tonight proved Sanders will not be used to any great extent because we will always be playing from behind.(WAY behind lol) And so he is benched. 2 more brutal games next. This game was easier than the next 2 and we looked totally incompetent 

3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I'm sorry Ham,your boy Hurts looks like a hot mess. Put Minshew in-NOW

YAY(so why didnt we do that from the start? lol)

How did you come up with this idea?

2 hours ago, Trini said:

Come on bro....We've been here before with these Stinking MF Cow bit?$/s...they are the better team right now ...NO starting LT...NO Brandon Brooks .....TWO.....2....Rookies starting at LT and LG ....Seamulo...just went down...?let's see what Nick and Jalen got left.

Been home field reffing for sure. They just hold our guys and they call everything on us. We suck…but they aren’t that good. Siri just looks out of his league.

27 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

In fantasy Sanders is benched. I thought we could run a little on them, or get more yards out of the backfield, but tonight proved Sanders will not be used to any great extent because we will always be playing from behind.(WAY behind lol) And so he is benched. 2 more brutal games next. This game was easier than the next 2 and we looked totally incompetent 

We knew this going into the season after 2020. Sadly the Olineisdroppinglikeflies again. Driskol, then Brooks, Mailata, Seumalo…don’t even know what we can do about this. Have the arguably greatest Oline coach but the players are shifting every game for years. Don’t even know what the answer is for that.

34 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

We have the players,we need a QB. I don't feel Hurts is the answer at all. This "college"  vanilla dink and dunk scheme reminds me too much of Chip. Seriously, Hurts looked like an unprepared HS QB. Very sad to see. So how long will Siri let this clown show continue? I thought the D played well overall. I don't want to hear the "we need to do better" speech(DUH). I was very disappointed that we could not even stay close

Sure blame Hurts. I’m not with you here. Looks like Siri is way out of his league. But he’ll train the receivers. Get some DBs for Gannon to train next year. Then get serious about the coaching.

37 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

We have the players,we need a QB. I don't feel Hurts is the answer at all. This "college"  vanilla dink and dunk scheme reminds me too much of Chip. Seriously, Hurts looked like an unprepared HS QB. Very sad to see. So how long will Siri let this clown show continue? I thought the D played well overall. I don't want to hear the "we need to do better" speech(DUH). I was very disappointed that we could not even stay close

The D just gave up first downs after first downs. No idea what you saw. Embarrassing.

35 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

We have the players,we need a QB. I don't feel Hurts is the answer at all. This "college"  vanilla dink and dunk scheme reminds me too much of Chip. Seriously, Hurts looked like an unprepared HS QB. Very sad to see. So how long will Siri let this clown show continue? I thought the D played well overall. I don't want to hear the "we need to do better" speech(DUH). I was very disappointed that we could not even stay close

Minshew not the long term answer, but IMO we have as decent a shot as ANY other team in NFCE for Div. title with him at QB. 

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The D just gave up first downs after first downs. No idea what you saw. Embarrassing.

YES, absolutely TERRIBLE play against the run. Hargrave and Fletch were BOTH doing double teams and the Edge guys couldn't go 1 on 1. 

We're in BIG trouble if this OL doesn't come back into shape. Can't have 3 starters out on OL and have decent percentage of running the O. I will give that to Hurts. He didn't have much time at all. 

8 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Hurts has 321 passing yards

So... jump ball to Watkins.  Dump off passes to guys who ran 20 plus yards and the bubble screens.    How many of those yards were due to great throwing?     Stats can be deceptive.   The stat that counts..... how many points did he put up.    That one is the only one that matters.

  I am not blaming the O-Line last night. The Coach did nothing to help them. Best weapon you can give them is running the ball. We did not even rush it in the first Quarter. All Dallas did was tee up on the QB. It is practically impossible to block when the defense KNOWS you are gonna pass. This outcome was 80% on the Coaches. Hurts looked like a deer in head lights. Every CB knew who he was throwing to. He stared down EVERY Throw. Terrible game plan. Terrible preparation. Terrible execution. Terrible QB Play. Terrible everything! Only players that looked decent on the D was Hargraves and Epps when he came in for the Hurt safety.

     We lead the league in Penalties. Barnett is a bonehead. I heard someone say he has more penalties than sacks..... Probably double the amount.

6 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Been home field reffing for sure. They just hold our guys and they call everything on us. We suck…but they aren’t that good. Siri just looks out of his league.

I saw the same thing Deep passes the player was out and the ref called him in ...Td' s that were called by that Home cooking crew called back and the commentator had nothing objective to say about Hurts. ..I was disappointed with Siranni  Playcalling  and Gannon's Defense. Zach Ertz had how many Drops..? Hurts has to be better... Agreed Siri looked out of his league...Siranni appeared flustered with the refs.

 

6 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The D just gave up first downs after first downs. No idea what you saw. Embarrassing.

Everytime I saw a run at Wilson he was being driven backwards .... that D Line ...Gannon, had NO answers for the twin double team sets the Cow b/TC&/s hammered down against Cox and Hargrave  or whoever was there  seemed it was always 4 on two as our ends were invisible. I never imagined that their OL could look that effective against us..This Coaching staff inexperience  is showing. but Ohhhh yea...It is on Hurts.

8 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

That or play calling I mean we run the same screens and bubble passes to often in my opinion and expect to catch a team off guard…

RPOs are an issue also Hurts isn’t making his decisions quick enough we got called what 2-3 different times for ineligible player down field that from Hurts holding the ball to long. The OL block like it’s a run on RPOs Hurts can’t dance around for 5 secs 

The play calling goes to the strength and avoiding the weaknesses of the players.    The QB running... and you have th read option.  You just mentioned the WRs being good at the bubble screen... and to be fair with Hurts, while I doubt his arm on the normal NFL throws, it's nice to see an Eagles QB get that ball out on the bubble screens early and on target. As good as guys like McNabb, Vick and Wentz were at the top of their games, all of them struggled to get the ball out quickly and accurately on a consistent basis for screen passes and short crossing routes. Hurts throws a nice smooth short pass.    So I can't really blame play calling when my eyes see it play towards the players strengths.  I do agree in general that the offense is limited though,  but more so players than play calling.    We will see how this develops.... or how the players develop.

The Brandon Graham injury is key.  He is underrated in his all around game. Now all these part time players have to play more.  That has been my issue that you all have been criticizing my negative outlook for the future.  We are seeing what the lines look like without Brooks and Graham... the glimpse of the future.  You have Kelce, Lane and Cox that aren't going to be around forever either.

The good news is we should to see Dickerson, Herbig play and develop now.   Much better being on the field than watching.    Sweat... we may have jumped the gun on that contract being his part time #s looked good. We'll see how he handles more snaps and if he was worth the $$.  But still need a dude on the other side. 

The punter is a stud, and our WR group is young and decent.  Eventually you put a true #1 with that group and it can go to the next level really quickly.  Still 14 games of development ahead. 

Next 8 games:

Chiefs - Loss

Panthers - Most likely loss- if they have McCaffrey

Bucs- Loss

Raiders - Loss

Loins - Win probably

Chargers - Loss

Broncos - ??

Saints - Loss

So we are looking at most likely 2-9 - 3-8 record after our next 8 games..... Does not look good for our season. Who said we were going to win 8-9 games?

1 minute ago, stine said:

Next 8 games:

Chiefs - Loss

Panthers - Most likely loss- if they have McCaffrey

Bucs- Loss

Raiders - Loss

Loins - Win probably

Chargers - Loss

Broncos - ??

Saints - Loss

So we are looking at most likely 2-9 - 3-8 record after our next 8 games..... Does not look good for our season. Who said we were going to win 8-9 games?

Tony Romo. Said...10- 11 wins ...Its early in the season still lol only 2/3 of the OL out so far.

41 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

You just mentioned the WRs being good at the bubble screen.

Being good at it and running it all game especially when in Dallas game they are sitting on the underneath stuff knowing it coming are different things… It’s fine that it’s the staple of our offense but until we find a way to make team respect us attacking them at all levels they are going to keep sitting on the underneath stuff. 
 

Watching that Dallas game the CBs weren’t even backpedaling they had zero fear of us attacking them deep 

45 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

The QB running... and you have th read option.

Again my issue on the RPOs things that are Hurts strength is him holding the ball leading the OL down the field before he throws. And it’s been a pretty common penalty for us want to say it was called what 2-3 last night few times in the games before that. 
 

If your Hurts and your going to pass you have to be decisive when you make that read. 

7 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Sure blame Hurts.

Staring down his receivers, under-throws, bad reads/decisions, missed throws, ineligible men down field on RPOs… These are all things on Hurts you really want to use every excuse in the book for Hurts but he has looked meh for two straight weeks now. 
 

Maybe the worst two plays I’ve seen was missing a WIDE open Geodart on a short crossed that he likely gains 20+ on then next play stares down Smith and the CB Diggs reads easily for the pick 6…. How are these Siri fault???? 

How do you hand the ball to your rbs 3 times for the entire game?

That should be the question that EVERY reporter asks Siri all week