34 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Douglas has been given opportunities. Every year he’s played meaningful snaps. Feels like we know what he can do in this system....and that’s not much. James fits the mold here better. I think he’s shown some potential in his limited opportunities.

James has had chances to lol Douglas has been thrown to the wolves multiple times in our system. Douglas is thriving it sounds like with the new DB coach. 
 

4 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Why I don’t get the hate on solely the player sometimes it is the coaches fault....

If a coach wants to play a certain scheme, he needs players that fit that scheme. Should he adapt his scheme to fit his players? You could make a good case for that but doesn't appear to be Schwartz' style.

44 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Lmao he hasn’t resisted switching he never needed to switch. There was no point in moving Lane over to LT mid-season when we had JP at LT over the years 

This is from a story in 2015 when Johnson played LT.

"With Jason Peters having not played a full game in nearly two months, the Eagles have had an extended look at his most likely successor: Johnson. The right tackle has been the Eagles’ best offensive lineman this season — although that bar hasn’t been set very high — and Chip Kelly took him fourth overall in the 2013 NFL Draft hoping that he may eventually replace Peters.

However, that transition hasn’t been entirely smooth for Johnson. He continues to be penalized at a high rate — he’s tied for fourth among all NFL offensive lineman in number of penalties — and although he said earlier in the season he thinks he’s a better pass blocker at left tackle, that hasn’t been the case.

Johnson has played 141 snaps in pass protection at left tackle compared to 350 at right tackle. The rate of which he allows sacks on the left side is more than three times higher than it is on the right. He also gives up quarterback hits on the left side 12 times more than he does on the right."

So your idea that Johnson would be just as good on the left as the right is directly contradicted by facts. It would essentially make us worse at two positions.

As far as the notion that Vaitai was good, here's what he looked like at LT.

 

39 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

This is from a story in 2015 when Johnson played LT.

"With Jason Peters having not played a full game in nearly two months, the Eagles have had an extended look at his most likely successor: Johnson. The right tackle has been the Eagles’ best offensive lineman this season — although that bar hasn’t been set very high — and Chip Kelly took him fourth overall in the 2013 NFL Draft hoping that he may eventually replace Peters.

However, that transition hasn’t been entirely smooth for Johnson. He continues to be penalized at a high rate — he’s tied for fourth among all NFL offensive lineman in number of penalties — and although he said earlier in the season he thinks he’s a better pass blocker at left tackle, that hasn’t been the case.

Johnson has played 141 snaps in pass protection at left tackle compared to 350 at right tackle. The rate of which he allows sacks on the left side is more than three times higher than it is on the right. He also gives up quarterback hits on the left side 12 times more than he does on the right."

So your idea that Johnson would be just as good on the left as the right is directly contradicted by facts. It would essentially make us worse at two positions.

As far as the notion that Vaitai was good, here's what he looked like at LT.

 

I know Lane was originally slated to be the LT after Peters left. But if you look at the current NFL many of the best pass rushers come from the right side. Also since Wentz is really good on the move it kames sense to keep Lane where he is.

1 hour ago, jsb235 said:

 

I think the oline will be ultimately be fine. People make a huge deal about LT, but it's not nearly as important as it used to be when qbs were mainly under center and passing plays were almost always deep drops. It's one reason that a lot of premium pass rushers now line up over the RT. 

 

Agree... with shotgun and the initial move usually ball fake ... the QB isn't subject to as much of a blind spot on the left as before. Shoulders are square to the line more often than not anymore.  But still there are those plays where it's blind.  Even some when the right side is the blind side, ironically we can remember Wentz fumbling on plays Lane goofed on the right side and not seeing the rush.

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Also Big V was not a terrible LT underrated guy no he isn’t Jason Peters and might never be a top T in the game but definitely was not terrible 

Big V was way better on the left side than he was on the right... as far as his play at Tackle.  

Just now, joemas6 said:

Big V was way better on the left side than he was on the right... as far as his play at Tackle.  

I agree with this... Hence another reason why I’d look at Lane at LT considering how guys play at RT some guys are just better on certain sides....

Look at all available options we have is what I’m getting at and then make a decision on the best starting 5 

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Your assuming Lane will struggle at LT that the funny part the man played LT fine when he was given reps to play LT leading up to the weeks... The one bad game he had was us trying to switch him mid game vs the Lions. So not concerned with him falling off if he plays LT if he gets all the reps there.

As for why LT is still the most important position it’s still the blind side for 99% of QBs they can’t see the rusher coming like on the other side.  And most premier pass rushers are still REs lining up over the LT though teams are more willing to move guys around for the matchups.

So if you have the weak link at LT it’s a guarantee they taking advantage of it with the best pass rusher 

Ehh, I wouldn't say 99% at all in today's game with all the shotgun formations.   I also think part of it is that most pass rushers are right handed.  More of a natural movement rushing from the RE spot.... same angle we take running the bases or roller skating or racing ...etc.    At least for me, it's not as natural turning a corner dipping my right side etc.   

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Ehh, I wouldn't say 99% at all in today's game with all the shotgun formations.   I also think part of it is that most pass rushers are right handed.  More of a natural movement rushing from the RE spot.... same angle we take running the bases or roller skating or racing ...etc.    At least for me, it's not as natural turning a corner dipping my right side etc.   

Lmao your a right handed QB the blind side is always the LT... When Wentz is throwing his back is to the LT even after taking the shotgun snap... I don’t know how you throw a football or watch it but as a right handed QB my back side is usually facing left 99% of the time. 

Im not standing flat footed looking equally both directions 

5 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I agree with this... Hence another reason why I’d look at Lane at LT considering how guys play at RT some guys are just better on certain sides....

Look at all available options we have is what I’m getting at and then make a decision on the best starting 5 

BG,

I can't have Lane and Peters on my line .... and instead of using them as bookends ... JP on the left and Lane on the right..... Lane at LT and JP at RG just seems dumb.  Much easier sell without Peters.   Regardless if he refuses to play LT, which to me is a bluff.   You know his ego wants to play there, it;s his position.  

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

BG,

I can't have Lane and Peters on my line .... and instead of using them as bookends ... JP on the left and Lane on the right..... Lane at LT and JP at RG just seems dumb.  Much easier sell without Peters.   Regardless if he refuses to play LT, which to me is a bluff.   You know his ego wants to play there, it;s his position.  

Lmao Joe you missing the point completely yes I would rather have JP at LT but until that situation is if it is resolved looking at all other options. 

As of this time JP said he is not playing LT unless he gets a raise and as of right now we don’t seem inclined to give him that.

Now next week if everything changes I’ll go from there 

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Lmao your a right handed QB the blind side is always the LT... When Wentz is throwing his back is to the LT even after taking the shotgun snap... I don’t know how you throw a football or watch it but as a right handed QB my back side is usually facing left 99% of the time. 

Im not standing flat footed looking equally both directions 

BG... try this LMAO  .... pretend you are a QB and you are throwing a pass to your left side.   Is it blind to you now?       Try this one... have somebody snap you a ball from 5 - 7 yards away.   Take a look at the moment you catch the ball... is it blind to your left?

It should only be blind to your left if your are dropping back, which isn't the initial move much anymore out of the shotgun.  The usual move is to find the RB and create the mesh point. At that instance the QB is looking forward.

But yeah, I agree 100% on those fewer pass plays in 2020, that it was back in 1990 ... to where the QB drops back from center... the LT spot would be covering the blind spot.    WE can both LMAO after we see an all 22 look at a bunch of plays and see how it looks from the QB's point of view on most of them.   

 

2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Lmao Joe you missing the point completely yes I would rather have JP at LT but until that situation is if it is resolved looking at all other options. 

I'm not missing the point... I get exactly what you are saying.   And my thoughts are with you with Lane, because I'm going in my mind that Peters isn't available for some reason.    I just simply stated, for me, Peters would have to be out of the lineup before Lane moves over to LT.   That's all.  

Just now, joemas6 said:

BG... try this LMAO  .... pretend you are a QB and you are throwing a pass to your left side.   Is it blind to you now?       Try this one... have somebody snap you a ball from 5 - 7 yards away.   Take a look at the moment you catch the ball... is it blind to your left?

It should only be blind to your left if your are dropping back, which isn't the initial move much anymore out of the shotgun.  The usual move is to find the RB and create the mesh point. At that instance the QB is looking forward.

But yeah, I agree 100% on those fewer pass plays in 2020, that it was back in 1990 ... to where the QB drops back from center... the LT spot would be covering the blind spot.    WE can both LMAO after we see an all 22 look at a bunch of plays and see how it looks from the QB's point of view on most of them.   

 

Literally the stupidest thing I have heard Wentz drops back he turns his backside is facing the LEFT!!!!!!!!!! Not hard to understand Joe blindside= the side the QBs back faces majority of the time.... Ie Right handed QB blindside is the left 

I’m watching these shotgun snaps and look Wentz is back is facing the LT SURPRISE!!!! Yup not the blindside 

3 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

As of this time JP said he is not playing LT unless he gets a raise and as of right now we don’t seem inclined to give him that.

Now next week if everything changes I’ll go from there 

Well... we shall see about how it shakes out.   As you get older you will start to read between the lines better.   As Ike Reese said on his show today, he had all offseason to field other offers, why did he come back here?   Very interesting when you here is from former players who have a better feel of how the negotiation game works.  I believe JP is your LT for the first snap of the regular season.   Right now means nothing, as we know with Wentz sitting out.   Peters, Isaac, Kelce, Pryor, Lane ... that's your OL barring injury when the snaps count for real.  

3 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Literally the stupidest thing I have heard Wentz drops back he turns his backside is facing the LEFT!!!!!!!!!! Not hard to understand Joe blindside= the side the QBs back faces majority of the time.... Ie Right handed QB blindside is the left 

Literally what I said was he doesn't drop back as much as QB's used to before... not really hard to comprehend is it?   I agreed when he does drop back the left is the blind side.  Why so hard to comprehend.  You are smart enough to know 99% of the snaps are not under center.  You are smart enough to know there are plays where he looks to the left ASAP.  You are smart enough to remember Lane missing blocks on the right side where Wentz was not able to see the rush coming from the right side because he was looking left.   It's not 1990 anymore, game has changed.  

24 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I’m watching these shotgun snaps and look Wentz is back is facing the LT SURPRISE!!!! Yup not the blindside 

AWESOME.   Just watched almost 18 minutes of these highlights and I'm ready for football.   First fantasy draft on Thursday.      Watching these videos, Wentz, Sanders and Goedert really stand out physically.   I love Ertz, he;s old school backyard football reliable receiver, but man does Goedert stand out with his movement ability.    A few of the plays Wentz makes... WOW!

And BTW... 6 of the first 7 snaps on here were plays to the right side early on in the season, so a natural normal drop back with a blind side to the left.   But to my point, if you watch the complete video, plenty of plays they design where Wentz is immediately facing the left side,  a lot of success on those plays where its the first reads, and then he adjusts reading the defense from left to right.  He scrambles out to the right excellent too.  I'm excited to see these other young guys and DeSean mixed in with  Sanders/Goedert/Ertz.    Let's go baby!!!!!

9 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Hahahahahahhaha opps good call I just missed Ward well damn maybe Burnett doesn’t have room on the roster still 

Maybe Jjaw can play RG HAHAHAHA

8 hours ago, joemas6 said:

From the article I just read regarding Dillard....

The head coach confirmed that Dillard was injured last week in practice, and will eventually end up on injured reserve. Pederson said it’s unfortunate because the second-year player had a really good offseason and was having a really good camp.

So with the fact that he suffered a season ending injury, why do you get the impression he just doesn't want to play?   Seems to me the dude was playing ok and got hurt????  You have inside info?   

 

LMAO,so what are they gonna say."He got a boo and wants to sit out"? No they would never say that.In any case,he is washing out before our eyes.He had a "good camp" last year and stunk up the joint when he had to play for real.Now he is out again and there is no redemption sitting on the bench.once again he needs to PROVE he can play and stay in the game. MS2.1??? Another year of coddling? Nope,no insider info,I just see what I see and that is another wasted #1 draft pick.If he was a 4th,then you have an excuse,but he was drafted to fill in JP's spot PRONTO and he is still not getting it done.If you can't get your #1 pick to perform in year 2,you have serious issues(as we all know).So now another year sitting out(yet being paid) and another year of dancing around trying to fill holes we should have already filled.So you saw(and I agree) you can't predict injury.But why always US,and why always at key positions? I suppose you could argue every position is a key one,but I'm tired of picks and acquisitions not playing and us having to patchwork things annually

4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It’s not about getting a fifth round question mark....it’s about money. We have none...he costs lots of it. Trading him is a key component to salary cap relief. Things could go all kinds of ways once Alshon comes back. I’d won’t him to look good on his return...so we can get the best return. At this point I think we would almost have to pay someone to take him. But what if during your scenario he’s looking good, the trade deadline passes and then he gets hurt again? Sadly a very likely scenario.

Well we're back to square one again.Who is your trade partner and WHY would they pay you 10 mil for an injured WR? So you play him some when he returns.if he's GOOD why trade him? if he sucks,noone will pay 10 mil,so pick your poison

3 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Your assuming Lane will struggle at LT that the funny part the man played LT fine when he was given reps to play LT leading up to the weeks... The one bad game he had was us trying to switch him mid game vs the Lions. So not concerned with him falling off if he plays LT if he gets all the reps there.

As for why LT is still the most important position it’s still the blind side for 99% of QBs they can’t see the rusher coming like on the other side.  And most premier pass rushers are still REs lining up over the LT though teams are more willing to move guys around for the matchups.

So if you have the weak link at LT it’s a guarantee they taking advantage of it with the best pass rusher 

So wait a minute...if we want to matchup our WR with their DB(or even LB)....then we should attack those advantages....you are saying the defense should just play matchup...on the pass rush. So why shouldn’t every offensive tackle play matchup and switch sides on the defensive individual pass rushers? 

9 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

13 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Your assuming Lane will struggle at LT that the funny part the man played LT fine when he was given reps to play LT leading up to the weeks... The one bad game he had was us trying to switch him mid game vs the Lions. So not concerned with him falling off if he plays LT if he gets all the reps there.

As for why LT is still the most important position it’s still the blind side for 99% of QBs they can’t see the rusher coming like on the other side.  And most premier pass rushers are still REs lining up over the LT though teams are more willing to move guys around for the matchups.

So if you have the weak link at LT it’s a guarantee they taking advantage of it with the best pass rusher 

So wait a minute...if we want to matchup our WR with their DB(or even LB)....then we should attack those advantages....you are saying the defense should just play matchup...on the pass rush. So why shouldn’t every offensive tackle play matchup and switch sides on the defensive individual pass rushers?

You never played football past high school did you? Can tell if you think that thought would work with success constantly. DBs moving around is not easy by itself also. I played safety at a high level and just swapping sides is not an easy task unless you have a ton of experience at it week to week. I played both Strong and Free safety and in the slot. It was not easy just jumping into that. It took many years to get comfortable in doing that. The same goes for a Oline swap. Dline is the easiest to perform that task with success. 

Can some do it? yes, but tring it with a DB is a lot less risky then protecting a franchise QB. Just sounds like a very dumb idea. 

13 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

James has had chances to lol Douglas has been thrown to the wolves multiple times in our system. Douglas is thriving it sounds like with the new DB coach. 
 

Douglas would have success if he was put in the right scheme. Jim's scheme is not a DB friendly system. They will get eaten alive, esp without the catch up speed. Douglas would benefit from a cover 2 system team. He is a sit down corner that needs deep help. If he was in that type of system he would have a serviceable DB in the NFL. Reminds me of a Marlin Jackson type player. We have Jim for this year then more then likely he will move on. A shame we dont know who the replacement would be and system cause I would like to keep Douglas to see what he can do with a new DC. However he is also on his last year of his deal.