Week 5. I am officially giving up on Jackson on one fantasy team,he sucks

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

2021 stat tracker
Jalen hurts has 1,365 yards passing 

wentz has 920 yards passing

so we obviously upgraded with the guy that can’t throw. Even has a better Passer Rating.  AND he’s running for a ton of yards on top of it.

yes better rating tossing 3 yards to RB's and TE's,then they run for 8 and he gets the yardage as "passing yards"

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Those same ones that Kliff Klingsbury was playing against and now he’s doing it  arguably better than anybody iNthe NFL….gotta make you go hmmmmm

Does it?  I don't really pay much mind to college myself.   

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So your saying the second ranked D should really only be considered ….how good? You think they are terrible?

If you played 4 dud offenses... don't you think that's a factor?   Whatever rank you have them ...will it surprise you when they drop pretty far from this point?

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You can’t use the same excuse every year. You can’t just point to ten games out of five years and say this is how great I am. 2017 Wentz looked fantastic! You also see that Foles was SB MVP that year. Foles….

So hear we are...  a 70 yard screen pass ...and a WR winning a jump ball tonight...  do we give the Indy QB credit for that like you do Hurts... or can you agree like most people that those kind of plays reflect more on the other players.    Does it hit home now because you can't give Wentz credit ( which you would be correct in not doing so) for these type of plays... but yet you sound like Hurt's agent when you point out those stats he gets after these same plays. 

8 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

SO IDK what's wrong all I know is it's WRONG and it's the same plays every week. Coach? Player limits? Howie pressuring Siri?? IDK but whatever it is it's not working at all

You can pretty much write down every play we run before the game,almost in order in the 1st 1/4 no matter who we are facing. This one size fits all just isnt going to cut it in MY view

IDK WTH it is. Siri's play calling, Hurts or the Dynamic Duo. 

Do know that I wish Frank Reich was HC. That is "IF" the Dynamic Duo what let him do his thing??? Doubtful!!!

7 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Yeah...he can thank # 91 for that.  

YES, Cox is not to be ignored. He may not be piling up the stats BUT he is doing the dirty work. 

9 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

We are seeing guys do this like Tyreek Hill and Cordarelle Patterson who can destroy you from the back field OR out on a pass route. We can't even get our RB's out of the backfield with or without the ball lol

I mean I think the problem is we are just too damn predictable. We have the players who could be really good at the stuff out of the back field but we do it on almost every play. Smith, Watkins, Gainwell hell even Sanders and Reagor. 

6 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Interceptions Thrown (Int)

Carson Wentz	1 (2021)
Jalen Hurts	3 (2021)

This kills off your 400 passing yard difference in an instant. And let's also recall their top WR(TY Hilton) is out and still is.

Who's going to stop them- the Gnats? US? or The Wuss?

The team that beats them in the Wildcard round

8 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You can’t use the same excuse every year. You can’t just point to ten games out of five years and say this is how great I am. 2017 Wentz looked fantastic! You also see that Foles was SB MVP that year. Foles….

Yes... because teammates matter.  For every QB.   It's the same for me .... Brady or Dak would have to work really hard to look bad on their situations... conversely nobody was going  to look good for the Eagles last year.     Teammates matter....players matter... it's why you spend so much time scouting college, why the draft and free agency get better ratings that other sports during their playoffs. 

If players didn't matter, then we wouldn't spend so much time and energy on these things.  Nor would we worry about the salary cap.    

Before scheme, playcalling,  intangibles... or anything else.... players/ teammates matter most!   Top priority. 

8 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

2021 stat tracker
Jalen hurts has 1,365 yards passing 

wentz has 920 yards passing

so we obviously upgraded with the guy that can’t throw. Even has a better Passer Rating.  AND he’s running for a ton of yards on top of it.

How does it look now that both guys played 5 games?     One of them didn't get to play ATL or KC yet either.    Context matters....  I'm curious to know where you think Carolina's defense will finish as soon as they start playing some better offenses?  

Now for some additional context...  if you watched both games....you would see that playing vs Darnold and having the key punt blocked, Elliot make a 58 yard FG,  vs playing against Lamar and having your own kicker mess up 3 times...   it actually matters.    Not everything is on the QB, nor the coach, nor any ONE player.

But with anyone with a half of a brain... if you compare Hurts vs Wentz,  ... its the usual, Hurts looks better running/ scrambling.... that's about it. And it's not close.  

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

But with anyone with a half of a brain... if you compare Hurts vs Wentz,  ... its the usual, Hurts looks better running/ scrambling.... that's about it. And it's not close. 

I don't necessarily agree though bud. I think Hurts does most things better than Wentz. Certainly the important things. 

9 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Was his personal reason "I'm not sacrificing my body for a crap team anymore"?

I saw a report Lane is in rehab for addiction to pain killers

After 2 knee replacements this year i can see how that can happen.

6 hours ago, joemas6 said:

The team that beats them in the Wildcard round

But noone can predict whom that is nor the score, so as self proclaimed division winners(because there is noone to stop them from doing so), they have as good a shot as anyone who peaks in December while WE can "brag" about winning 4 games all year

Just for the record, I predict ARod ends up in New Orleans

18 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Not to keep harping...but you know me, I hate when people make statements of generalities without knowing the facts...  you know what they say about " assume"

Tampa 5 games....    halftime ...  1 vs Dallas up 5 points.    2 vs ATL up 11 points....  3 vs Rams... down 7 points....  4 vs Patriots.... down 1 point....  5. vs Miami ... up 14.

Miami was winning after 1st Q.... 39 yards.  NE led most of the game.... minus 1 yard.    Rams ahead all game... 76 yards.....  Dallas even all game... 60 yards.  

Teams passing on them... 391, 300, 343, 320, 275.     The game plan should be clear, and it shouldn't be running.  

  Only two teams ran the ball more than 13 times against TB. Maybe their Defense is that good against the run or maybe it is so much worse against the pass...  I Still fee they need to show the run no matter who they play. To allow a defense to tee off against the pass is asking for trouble. We never run it, so you will most likely get your wish this week.

16 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

2021 stat tracker
Jalen hurts has 1,365 yards passing 

wentz has 920 yards passing

so we obviously upgraded with the guy that can’t throw. Even has a better Passer Rating.  AND he’s running for a ton of yards on top of it.

You should have waited until they both played 6 5 games.

Wentz - 1322 yards 7 TD's 1 Int

Hurts - 1365 Yards 7 TD's 3 INT's

 

  Thinking Wentz has a better pass rating now. Not by allot though.... You really should consider the defenses they have played also... I am not sure, but TB supposedly has a terrible Pass Defense. So Hurts should light it up this week!

24 minutes ago, stine said:

  Only two teams ran the ball more than 13 times against TB. Maybe their Defense is that good against the run or maybe it is so much worse against the pass...  I Still fee they need to show the run no matter who they play. To allow a defense to tee off against the pass is asking for trouble. We never run it, so you will most likely get your wish this week.

Most teams TB play get down so far they have to give up the run game also

17 minutes ago, stine said:

You should have waited until they both played 6 5 games.

Wentz - 1322 yards 7 TD's 1 Int

Hurts - 1365 Yards 7 TD's 3 INT's

 

  Thinking Wentz has a better pass rating now. Not by allot though.... You really should consider the defenses they have played also... I am not sure, but TB supposedly has a terrible Pass Defense. So Hurts should light it up this week!

Nah, we will continue with the dink and dunk. No need to play past 50 yards on defense because we are no threat at that distance. TB front line will be in Jalen's face all day and they are good at blitzing also. beating Hurts is simple,PASS RUSH and CONTAIN the edges. maybe I can be a DC now lol. Also we are on a short week,so I suspect we get beat up pretty bad

At any rate, this season is DOA as we suspected. SO now in the draft, I want to re-build the lines,get some LB's and CB's(as we always dream of getting, to no avail) Howie loves his linemen,so that won't be a problem, but LB and CB always will be as long as he is at the helm. Since we don't use RB's, see no reason to add another one. We can go FULL on OKLAHOMA RPO baby!!! (GL with this experiment) LOL

8 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I don't necessarily agree though bud. I think Hurts does most things better than Wentz. Certainly the important things. 

What are the important things?   Especially after watching this week, that you saw Hurts do better?  Other than running?    

2 hours ago, stine said:

  Only two teams ran the ball more than 13 times against TB. Maybe their Defense is that good against the run or maybe it is so much worse against the pass...  I Still fee they need to show the run no matter who they play. To allow a defense to tee off against the pass is asking for trouble. We never run it, so you will most likely get your wish this week.

Yes to both... great run defense and pass defense is struggling due to injuries.  But make no mistake they are good vs the run.

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Nah, we will continue with the dink and dunk. No need to play past 50 yards on defense because we are no threat at that distance. TB front line will be in Jalen's face all day and they are good at blitzing also. beating Hurts is simple,PASS RUSH and CONTAIN the edges. maybe I can be a DC now lol. Also we are on a short week,so I suspect we get beat up pretty bad

Sounds like short passes is exactly the way to go... probably more crossing patterns than bubble screens though.  This defense is ideal for the Eagles offense at this time.  

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

At any rate, this season is DOA as we suspected. SO now in the draft, I want to re-build the lines,get some LB's and CB's(as we always dream of getting, to no avail) Howie loves his linemen,so that won't be a problem, but LB and CB always will be as long as he is at the helm. Since we don't use RB's, see no reason to add another one. We can go FULL on OKLAHOMA RPO baby!!! (GL with this experiment) LOL

You do know they won on Sunday... so they would have to have been DOA already...lol

Goedert on Covid/Reserve

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

What are the important things?   Especially after watching this week, that you saw Hurts do better?  Other than running?    

Well... He remains calm, he's clutch, he's a leader and his team mates believe in him. He doesn't turn the ball over at a ridiculous rate. He may be limited but I think that he accepts that rather than Wentz who quite clearly does not.