7 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

He may be limited but I think that he accepts that rather than Wentz who quite clearly does not. 

Wentz doesn’t accept what???? 

4 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Well... He remains calm, he's clutch, he's a leader and his team mates believe in him. He doesn't turn the ball over at a ridiculous rate. He may be limited but I think that he accepts that rather than Wentz who quite clearly does not. 

Soooo.... clutch?  Like driving the team down at the end of the half and game to put your team in position to win.    Like last night?   But Hurts did it once so far...so that cements him as clutch.

Turnovers... who has more this year?

But  for me... the 2 important things a QB needs since the first time he plays in his backyard... 1. Read the defense 2. Make the throw.    Regardless of all the BS that some guys like to talk about on here,  without those 2 things, nothing else happens.   Even last night with your ideal running QB, he had to do those 2 things to win the game for Baltimore.   

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Wentz doesn’t accept what???? 

That it was clearly his fault they lost last night.    🤣 

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Wentz doesn’t accept what???? 

Wentz doesn't accept his limitations. He plays hero ball thinking he can make plays that he can't. 

2 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Wentz doesn't accept his limitations. He plays hero ball thinking he can make plays that he can't. 

Hero ball last night?  

Just now, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Wentz doesn't accept his limitations. He plays hero ball thinking he can make plays that he can't. 

Yet he has as many yards as Hurts passing and same tds and less ints…Doesn’t have his best WR who is hurt, OL injured 

The same people that criticize Wentz for his hero ball trying to make plays for a team are the same ones who say Hurts doesn’t quit when he does it… 

Just now, joemas6 said:

Hero ball last night?  

My god why are you talking about last night and one freaking game! 

Amazing what teammates can do for you in this game....lol

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

The same people that criticize Wentz for his hero ball trying to make plays for a team are the same ones who say Hurts doesn’t quit when he does it… 

When did Hurts quit? How many turnovers did Wentz have last year? How many wins does Wentz have this year?

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Yet he has as many yards as Hurts passing and same tds and less ints…Doesn’t have his best WR who is hurt, OL injured 

The same people that criticize Wentz for his hero ball trying to make plays for a team are the same ones who say Hurts doesn’t quit when he does it… 

I like hero ... F@#k losing by not trying to make a play.   Rodgers led the league in throwing the ball away a few years ago by like double the next guy... GB was 6-10.    When your team is inferior, you gotta try to make plays..  any idiot could see last years version of the Eagles were grossly less talented and experienced.  As Ham would say...they needed the savior.   But I prefer just a good QB that can win when my team is good....say good enough of a supporting cast that as Ham says.. even Foles could win MVP for a game.

4 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

When did Hurts quit? How many turnovers did Wentz have last year? How many wins does Wentz have this year?

How many times did Hurts put the ball on the ground last year and turnovers??? 9 fumbles(lost what 3 or 4 of them) 4 ints in 4 games 

Wentz 1 int this year Hurts 3ints 

Wentz track record tends to speak of him protecting the ball well but your looking at one year when Wentz had nobody and tried to win games for his team and knock him 

4 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

When did Hurts quit? How many turnovers did Wentz have last year? How many wins does Wentz have this year?

Dude...get over LAST YEAR.  You will never see that fiasco with the injuries and everything else again.  How many 5th string OL have been playing so far?  Any RB, TE or WRs miss time yet?   You will never see that again.  We can compare 2021 and going forward.  That's all that matters.

3 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

How many times did Hurts put the ball on the ground last year and turnovers??? 9 fumbles(lost what 3 or 4 of them) 4 ints in 4 games 

Wentz 1 int this year Hurts 3ints 

Wentz track record tends to speak of him protecting the ball well but your looking at one year when Wentz had nobody and tried to win games for his team and knock him 

4 fumbles for Hurts....  2 for Wentz... but Hurts has that intangible where the other team can't recover it.... you just can't teach that. 

4 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

How many times did Hurts put the ball on the ground last year and turnovers??? 9 fumbles(lost what 3 or 4 of them) 4 ints in 4 games 

Wentz 1 int this year Hurts 3ints 

Wentz track record tends to speak of him protecting the ball well but your looking at one year when Wentz had nobody and tried to win games for his team and knock him 

BG... Hurts runs better ... that clearly shows on the field and in the stats.  Some guys just have a stick up their @zz about guys,  they will never get over it.  Wentz cost us  7 win season by not playing well last year... can't have that.  Needed to give us the BS line like it's all his fault more...lol. 

Unfortunately,  even the kicker cost them a game...like we talked before, they could easily be out of it by week 13.  If so, they will sit him.  They are in it for more than just this year, they could easily take their pick and regroup next year.   Which I think is what will happen due to perfect karma for our organization and some fans.   

11 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

 

Wentz track record tends to speak of him protecting the ball well but your looking at one year when Wentz had nobody and tried to win games for his team and knock him 

That play vs Dallas... people can't get over that one.    If this was last year... the talk would have been about the play Hurts didn't throw to a wide open WR at the end of the half... freeze frame and rewind to dissect over and over again.

37 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Hero ball last night?  

When Colts were in FG range on 4th down (during regulation) I actually saw Wentz chuck it out of bounds when the play wasn't there. 

3 hours ago, joemas6 said:

You do know they won on Sunday... so they would have to have been DOA already...lol

LOL when something is about to die,it always looks like recovery is imminent lol

2 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Wentz doesn't accept his limitations. He plays hero ball thinking he can make plays that he can't. 

Hurts does that like every play after his ONE read

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Dude...get over LAST YEAR.  You will never see that fiasco with the injuries and everything else again.  How many 5th string OL have been playing so far?  Any RB, TE or WRs miss time yet?   You will never see that again.  We can compare 2021 and going forward.  That's all that matters.

IDK Lane out,Geodert on Covid list,Doing the O line shuffle.Don't say we won't see that again cause it's happening again

7 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

My god why are you talking about last night and one freaking game! 

1. Because it's the last game, and we should be talking about current play  2. Anyone who grew up watching football knows last year Eagles situation was not anything to judge for real.   But I gotta ask .. when he crap around him in 2019 and was playing the " hero ball " instead of relying on practice squad guys , did it bother you when they won?    But because last year it was so screwed up beyond.   

I grew up watching players trying to win...not playing it safe just so when they lose nobody would think it's their fault... really a wimpy way to go through life don't you think?

7 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

When did Hurts quit? How many turnovers did Wentz have last year? How many wins does Wentz have this year?

My God ...why are you talking about last year... it was one very screwed up year.  

6 hours ago, EaglesTD123 said:

When Colts were in FG range on 4th down (during regulation) I actually saw Wentz chuck it out of bounds when the play wasn't there. 

Because he didn't have to play " hero ball " when his team has a chance to win without it.   Why is it a hard concept to understand " hero ball" is an effect... not a cause.

5 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

IDK Lane out,Geodert on Covid list,Doing the O line shuffle.Don't say we won't see that again cause it's happening again

I don't see 5th stringers in do you.   All 1st or 2nd string so far.  Backups are different than backups to the backup's backup. 

7 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I don't see 5th stringers in do you.   All 1st or 2nd string so far.  Backups are different than backups to the backup's backup. 

It's early yet

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Because he didn't have to play " hero ball " when his team has a chance to win without it.   Why is it a hard concept to understand " hero ball" is an effect... not a cause.

That's right. Hurts has WAY better receivers than Wentz had last year. He needs to get the ball to them instead of taking off by himself. Instead of "putting the team on his back" as one college coach spoke of Hurts. Not taking away the kid's heart and will to win though. I respect that about him. 

FWIW - https://www.crossingbroad.com/2021/10/lane-johnsons-absence-is-due-to-a-complicated-family-matter.html