39 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Right, if you read me posts it's all about consistency. Like I said before even if you are BAD but consistent,you can identify the weaknesses and fix them. The consistency is all over the map and on any one play you can target different inconstsencies,which means it will be difficult to fix the problems you CANT identify. The most inconsistent one I believe we CAN identify is at QB. Until that is fixed,you have no clue what your young stud WR's are capable of

Well, I think Watkins makes plays all over the place.    Smith seems like he can be ok.  Reagor runs fast, just like the QB.  

I think the problems are pretty consistent in that the play isn't consistent .   When you say ..." see he can make that throw"   really he can't.   You shouldn't need proof that dude can throw and be surprised... the fact that you are proves he can't throw. 

They basically said last night they like RPO because it's an easier read for the QB.    Right... because he can't read a defense. 

The thing that gets me about the fans.  What offense do you think they were running in camp when they were all excited ....remember the tweets " I ain't worried about our offense...AT ALL"  then the reply .." AT ALL"   

Does anyone here really think they were doing something other than the plays we are seeing?    Why would they switch now?   This is your offense with this QB.  Why is it shocking?    Doug didn’t want to put this guy in, after knowing Wentz wasn’t coming back, you don't think he clashed with the front office over having to use Hurts and this style offense?    Why wasn't this obvious?  

2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Sooo after 6 weeks of football my Eagles needs are.

QB- might not get this next season questionable QB class but not sold on what we have.

WR- I like our trio but would like to see a young big body guy 

DL- Cox and Graham over 30(graham will be coming off injury) Hargrave has been lights out but is 28… Just not much young talent Sweat seems alright Barnett should be gone and the rooks haven’t shown much. 
 

LB- wow this group is just sad 

CB- Slay and Nelson are what 29-30 Maddox has seems solid on the slot though from things I’ve seen.

Well we just got Tay,so if he stays that will help. I still like Olave (WR) from )OSU,and if he is the BPA we should not let him go.I like Evans at ROT(bama) for us as out first pick next draft

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

They basically said last night they like RPO because it's an easier read for the QB.    Right... because he can't read a defense.

I 100% agree with this statement

13 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Because you said so???? They could have scored again if they wanted to embarrass us further

Yeah Taysom Hill 2.0 is what I see also

Do you think Tampa gives a crap to embarrass us more?   Game was over, kneel and get on the plane without injury.  Eagles fans are not the center of the universe.  You could tell Brady was already annoyed at himself and the performance of the offense. He couldn't wait to get the game done.  

So I will say it. Ham, you stand alone in thinking Hurts is the QB we need

9 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Quez was really a nice surprise, Smith is fluid,he will be a good one(and would be JJ if we had a QB). Reagor doing better. You have serious issues when your #1 WR has 6 yards in 3 quarters(this to me is inexcusable right here)

I thought Watkins had way more than 6 yards?

Just now, joemas6 said:

Do you think Tampa gives a crap to embarrass us more?   Game was over, kneel and get on the plane without injury.  Eagles fans are not the center of the universe.  You could tell Brady was already annoyed at himself and the performance of the offense. He couldn't wait to get the game done.  

He had thumb issues, so yeah get out clean,but they could have scored if they wanted to

Just now, joemas6 said:

I thought Watkins had way more than 6 yards?

Smith(should be) our #1?????

32 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

IDK so Goedert goes down and we have???? I suppose Stoll can catch off a chip block. IDK why we are gathering picks  if we don't have  QB lol

And the concern is what? We don't win an extra game?  Lol... Ertz is time for him to go.

43 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Welp,that just shot my last post to H and back HAHAHA. SO with Goedert out we have???? Im pickling up Ertz in every league then.he will do well in AZ

Now that is how you set it up for a QB... Hopkins, Green, Ertz and a few other young guys.       Almost reminds me of how we set it up for Wentz to succeed,  only he can't play.   

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

And the concern is what? We don't win an extra game?  Lol... Ertz is time for him to go.

It was a good trade for both teams

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Now that is how you set it up for a QB... Hopkins, Green, Ertz and a few other young guys.       Almost reminds me of how we set it up for Wentz to succeed,  only he can't play.   

Yep,been saying all along we built this team for Wentz. Hurts is the square peg trying to fit into a round hole

BTW I mentioned AZ last offseason when the Ertz trade was hot. He will be a perfect fit for them and my former son in law in Phoenix is very happy right now lol

AZ is in win now mode, and they lost their TE. Ertz will be much better for them. basically we got a 5th and a CB with a very high celiing if we can do anything with him(aka free draft pick). I bet Tay plays before too long

5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Yep,been saying all along we built this team for Wentz. Hurts is the square peg trying to fit into a round hole

Did a pretty "$h@tty job building anything for any QB.   2017 I thought they figured it out with the skill spots...but they remain clueless with the fast little guys they like to have on offense.   The arrogance since then will culminate into years of failure.   Kelce, Brooks, Lane,  Graham and Cox type players aren't easy to find.   They will need to be replaced on top of making the right additions... " but Joe, everything will be ok"    lol.   Was obvious, but the spin that it was all the former QB ...you all ate it up.   Siri will be a sacrificial Lamb here.   Marion Campbell days ahead.   

But let's watch some film from the 2015 Vikings to see if we are running " cover 4 , cover 2...etc "   lol   

11 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

AZ is in win now mode, and they lost their TE. Ertz will be much better for them. basically we got a 5th and a CB with a very high celiing if we can do anything with him(aka free draft pick). I bet Tay plays before too long

It's so exciting! 

I miss the All 22 posts on here...the ones that broke down all the flaws from last year.   I mean at least all the ones from the QB.  Curious as to why nobody posts anything anymore.  Would love to see breakdowns of RPO plays and the reads that are there.   Some of the throws out QB makes, where last year we saw every angle,  etc.    Was a great educational thing.  

7 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I miss the All 22 posts on here...the ones that broke down all the flaws from last year.   I mean at least all the ones from the QB.  Curious as to why nobody posts anything anymore.  Would love to see breakdowns of RPO plays and the reads that are there.   Some of the throws out QB makes, where last year we saw every angle,  etc.    Was a great educational thing.  

They don’t want to talk about the bad with Hurts just make up all the excuses for why he is missing stuff… He misses a wide open WR/TE well the play design lol yup the design was so bad the guy was wide open and he missed the throw 

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Was obvious, but the spin that it was all the former QB ...you all ate it up.

LMAO Oh if he stayed successful here we wouldn't have re-signed him for another 5 year stint?  No QB can play with a suck O line playing 4th stringers. Yeah we all bought it because it was TRUE. Wentz was supposed to be our QB for 10 years or more, but hindsight is a beautiful thing, after Wentz showed his immaturity(aka Alpha male) when we drafted this present disaster instead of getting a piece that would have helped him succeed. So now the COLTS will build THEIR team around him. They had an OK start until THEIR franchise QB just up and retired (then they were stuck with Brissett,much like we are stuck with Hurts now). They will recover faster because they saw the problem and fixed it and we won't. We will ride "Brissett" until the last possible second.Just think of all that talent WASTED at WR that we have now. They will want out ASAP because we can't give them any stats or future, but they are "stuck here" on rookie deals. Won't be long until they figure out sacrificing their bodies for this BS isn't worth it and "go through the motions" until it's their contract year. Then we will go back to barrel scraping in the FA market to find guys that will play here at ALL(aka used up have beens who will play for a cheap contract)

SO, did I buy Wentz was our franchise QB? Sure, and so did everyone (except maybe Joe). Howie and bad luck failed him and us. I thought he had a bad attitude when we drafted Hurts. So at the time I didn't think it was a good move and still don't, although now we would have noone at QB. But really how much worse would we be with Flacco as our QB if we made NO other move? So yeah, IMO we built this team for Wentz(because Hurts wasn't until later anyhow). I doubt we were building this team for Sudfeld

26 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

LMAO Oh if he stayed successful here we wouldn't have re-signed him for another 5 year stint?  No QB can play with a suck O line playing 4th stringers. Yeah we all bought it because it was TRUE. Wentz was supposed to be our QB for 10 years or more, but hindsight is a beautiful thing, after Wentz showed his immaturity(aka Alpha male) when we drafted this present disaster instead of getting a piece that would have helped him succeed. So now the COLTS will build THEIR team around him. They had an OK start until THEIR franchise QB just up and retired (then they were stuck with Brissett,much like we are stuck with Hurts now). They will recover faster because they saw the problem and fixed it and we won't. We will ride "Brissett" until the last possible second.Just think of all that talent WASTED at WR that we have now. They will want out ASAP because we can't give them any stats or future, but they are "stuck here" on rookie deals. Won't be long until they figure out sacrificing their bodies for this BS isn't worth it and "go through the motions" until it's their contract year. Then we will go back to barrel scraping in the FA market to find guys that will play here at ALL(aka used up have beens who will play for a cheap contract)

GB...you missed the point.   Point is tough for the Arizona QB to fail with those weapons.    That is what you are supposed to do for a QB... can he win with weapons.   1 year he had them...he won.  Yes it was only one year,  but bigger picture is the organization should put him in that situation... and Doug too... every year.  Not set them up to fail,  and then complain they shouldn't have failed as much.   2019 was the worst hand they should have been dealt... Howie gets away with that due to how both coach and QB bailed him out.   Now people look to blame Siri or Hurts.  Hurts is who he is, Siri was given crap to work with,  ie this QB...  Howie should be the issue... not these guys.   The fact they put Doug and Wentz in a position to fail is enough.  Now this point needs to be driven home...  for years!

22 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

SO, did I buy Wentz was our franchise QB? Sure, and so did everyone (except maybe Joe). Howie and bad luck failed him and us. I thought he had a bad attitude when we drafted Hurts. So at the time I didn't think it was a good move and still don't, although now we would have noone at QB. But really how much worse would we be with Flacco as our QB if we made NO other move? So yeah, IMO we built this team for Wentz(because Hurts wasn't until later anyhow). I doubt we were building this team for Sudfeld

They built this team EXACTLY like they want it.   They need to prove the Chip Kelly style works,  but it was just Chip's fault.   

Like, " ok we did it the normal way, so be happy" ...now " we will do it our way again"  

Howie saying we won’t be seller at the deadline be crazy if we are not sellers…

I love Lane and Cox Brooks etc. but it’s time to start shipping guys out get picks for them and get youngster reps 

3 hours ago, joemas6 said:

GB...you missed the point.   Point is tough for the Arizona QB to fail with those weapons.    That is what you are supposed to do for a QB... can he win with weapons.   1 year he had them...he won.  Yes it was only one year,  but bigger picture is the organization should put him in that situation... and Doug too... every year.  Not set them up to fail,  and then complain they shouldn't have failed as much.   2019 was the worst hand they should have been dealt... Howie gets away with that due to how both coach and QB bailed him out.   Now people look to blame Siri or Hurts.  Hurts is who he is, Siri was given crap to work with,  ie this QB...  Howie should be the issue... not these guys.   The fact they put Doug and Wentz in a position to fail is enough.  Now this point needs to be driven home...  for years!

Right, all I am saying was that we have the weapons Wentz needs NOW,but that is after the fact

24 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Howie saying we won’t be seller at the deadline be crazy if we are not sellers…

I love Lane and Cox Brooks etc. but it’s time to start shipping guys out get picks for them and get youngster reps 

Stated my #1 target next draft is Evans the ROT for Bama. Gowan can be a NICE CB for us(he was like a bonus draft pick),but we also got a bonus round 5 pick. This is NOT a good draft coming,use these picks to move into higher rounds because the fall off after round 3 is pretty astounding talent wise(with few exceptions)

15 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Stated my #1 target next draft is Evans the ROT for Bama. Gowan can be a NICE CB for us(he was like a bonus draft pick),but we also got a bonus round 5 pick. This is NOT a good draft coming,use these picks to move into higher rounds because the fall off after round 3 is pretty astounding talent wise(with few exceptions)

My hope is we have our two bookend Ts in Mailata and Dillard and can focus on other areas with our firsts…. But draft is long ways away