3 hours ago, stine said:

I always look at wins as an important stat for QB's. Not sure if everyone feels the same though. Herbert played in one of the toughest divisions last year and has compiled a 11-12 record to date. Not great, but OK for a 2nd year QB in that division. Hurts played in the weakest division and compiled a 4-8 record to date. Not good.

Wins is a team stat.    There are teams that are set up to where the QB has all the tools.    Defense is half the game and the QB isn't on the field for that.   Wins count sure, but it's not something I would look at for Herbert and Hurts....you pointed out the things... the ability to make the reads and the throws.   And putting points on the board.   

43 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

One game….not enough to judge anything on.

  No, but it is worth a 4th round flyer to find out IMO....

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Anyway,Wentz looked sharp. Howie screwed the pooch(and the fans) once again with his innate ability to eff things up we did right. Ped and Wentz should still be here and Lurie should have fired Howie(but we know that has about the same odds as finding a unicorn)

Water is wet....  this is the obvious that I don't get how people didn't see this the entire time.    Next step for those still not seeing it will be Doug getting another job and doing well.    

47 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Sure it is. We need play action, not an RPO college  offense. it failed with Chip and it's failing now,especially with an indecisive QB

You realize we’d fire Siri today if Hurts college coach wanted the job though, right?

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So here's the plan as I see it. We will squander all our round 1 WR picks because we will wait forever to get a competent QB. Then after we lose them in FA because they want to play elsewhere,,we will find our next franchise QB and he will play with no weapons. Rinse and repeat LOL 🙄

2023 isn't forever.   Do it correctly...the goal should be a championship, not just avoiding being bad.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m trying to act like that’s a high bar at all . Just doesn’t seem right to go that far overboard because people have an agenda against Hurts. This offense has been terrible. But Hurts has been better than all these rookies. Just setting the record straight.

The agenda is against QBs that don't read defenses and make NFL throws.  Hurts is a great human being... we are told this every day.   Just in 2 years here has been nothing positive said about those 2 " tangible " things that matter for QBs

3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Josh Johnson(Jet's third stringer) looked alot better than Hurts . Ham is satisfied with mediocre and I am not. Josh almost brought them totally BACK after Indy had that game in the bag

Ok go get Brady then….oh wait he isn’t going to come here. So what’s been your plan that wasn’t Hurts at QB

26 minutes ago, stine said:

  No, but it is worth a 4th round flyer to find out IMO....

Would you trade White for a 4th if you were the Jets?

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Ok go get Brady then….oh wait he isn’t going to come here. So what’s been your plan that wasn’t Hurts at QB

So now you see how I feel when talking salary cap with you.   

3 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Yea 6 tds more then Hurts so in 7 games he has as many passing tds as hurts in his career. Hurts in 8 games 15 total Tds Herbert in 7 games 17 total tds 16 passing 

63% but that is consistent it’s not an inflated 61% that is heavily based off one game in ATL where hurts threw for 77% and hasn’t been consistent since after then ATL game is is around 57% 

Again context base line stats are useless when not used in context 

Actually Hurts ran for five TDs so far also. With less interceptions.

6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Actually Hurts ran for five TDs so far also. With less interceptions.

I mean... BG said total TDs didn't he???  One would assume he is already counting Hurts rushing TDs in that... my guess is he didn't mean TD catches?

31 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You realize we’d fire Siri today if Hurts college coach wanted the job though, right?

Which one?

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Ok go get Brady then….oh wait he isn’t going to come here. So what’s been your plan that wasn’t Hurts at QB

Why would Brady come here? Or Arod,or Wilson,or any QB that can play?. No, they understand how effed up this FO is,so we will now have to draft more QB's because Lurie can't admit Howie screwed up and he agreed to fire Ped and lose Wentz and PAY to do it(how stupid is that????) Noone wants to play here if they had a choice,so we get barrel scraping or we have to use draftees. GO back and watch Smiths reaction when we called his name. He didn't look very happy(and with good reason). He was a WASTED pick because we can't get him any stats to speak of(nor anyone else for that matter). MY plan would NOT have included drafting Hurts at all. But here we are stuck in no QB hell

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Actually Hurts ran for five TDs so far also. With less interceptions.

Yep screw the RB's it's a Jalen Hurts show!!!!! I have no clue why we pay Sanders or Scott.

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Would you trade White for a 4th if you were the Jets?

Johnson looked fine, they may trade for him LOL. He's better than what we have

Hurts is a BU QB,and he's not even that good. He's a #3 QB anywhere else but here IMO. Better than Sudfeld, which is a low bar to set LOL

14 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Hurts is a BU QB,and he's not even that good. He's a #3 QB anywhere else but here IMO. Better than Sudfeld, which is a low bar to set LOL

3rd string.   Is there any other darling Eagles QB that is 3rd string... lol.

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Actually Hurts ran for five TDs so far also. With less interceptions.

Yea that is included in his 15 total tds last I checked 10 passing and 5 rushing equals 15… Which is still less then Herbert 16 passing tds alone plus he has a rushing TD in 1 fewer game this season. 
 

And yup Hebert who throws 35+ a week has more ints has 6 (but we make Hurts throw to much you know the 4 games he has 35+ pass atttempts) but also has zero fumbles…. Hurts has 4 ints 3 fumbles(lost one) 

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I don’t think any of these rookies have impressed me at all. But it wasn’t my thoughts. It was FL that was convinced all these rookies are outproducing Hurts. I don’t see any of them doing it.

Not sure what your watching that makes you think this highly of hurts and we are setting a low bar by just talking rookies not even adding his QB class…

Watched a the games and see Hurts be a non factor for 3 qtrs then pads stats in the 4th qtr. of a blow out…. I mean who cares about the TD in the final minutes to Greg Ward in a blow out loss great on the stat sheet though…. 

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Actually Hurts ran for five TDs so far also. With less interceptions.

Chamthe man...I like your positive input on Hurts... Thank you....Joe is still consistent with his his venom towards Hurts. ...when that POS..QB Wentz felt... he was entitled to be the starting QB of the Eagles .... Why should he need to EARN his job...Good Riddance...Funny how the demands for competition only apply to Certain QB....Hurts is a rookie who has won more games than the top picks  with a brand New coach and system...a YET the ONLY  fu($#^\g opinion is that Hurts stats were garbage time stats...OMG...the venom towards our Black rookie QB. All this love for that POS Wentz ....that Refused to earn his job...Everybody not named Hurts...needs to replace him...Funny comments here about Hurts WEAK arm is BShi-t....Hurts is NoT Allen in Buff or...Murray...in AZ...or the few monster arms out there ... But he has more than enough arm talent to make every throw. 

P.O.S.   Piece of sh$t.

21 minutes ago, Trini said:

Chamthe man...I like your positive input on Hurts... Thank you....Joe is still consistent with his his venom towards Hurts. ...when that POS..QB Wentz felt... he was entitled to be the starting QB of the Eagles .... Why should he need to EARN his job...Good Riddance...Funny how the demands for competition only apply to Certain QB....Hurts is a rookie who has won more games than the top picks  with a brand New coach and system...a YET the ONLY  fu($#^\g opinion is that Hurts stats were garbage time stats...OMG...the venom towards our Black rookie QB. All this love for that POS Wentz ....that Refused to earn his job...Everybody not named Hurts...needs to replace him...Funny comments here about Hurts WEAK arm is BShi-t....Hurts is NoT Allen in Buff or...Murray...in AZ...or the few monster arms out there ... But he has more than enough arm talent to make every throw. 

P.O.S.   Piece of sh$t.

LMAO it has zero to do with race,so stop that BS. Why was Hurts handed the job??? Because we had noone else. BTW he is NOT a rookie. We added Flacco and Minshew later,yet Hurts was handed the job because of Howie's ego. The FO failed to build a team around Wentz  and they used him and Ped as scapegoats for their own failures. If he has more than enough arm talent to make the throws,why isn't he making them??? It's year 2 and I see no improvement. Still looks like a college QB

 Chamthe man I should have directed my recent comments to Joe directly ....My apology.Thanks again for your positive comments on  Hurts ...I have many criticisms of Hurts myself Including Garbage time stats  ....But that's Scheme and Playcalling not QB control.IMO.

Again my apologies.

52 minutes ago, Trini said:

Chamthe man...I like your positive input on Hurts... Thank you....Joe is still consistent with his his venom towards Hurts. ...when that POS..QB Wentz felt... he was entitled to be the starting QB of the Eagles .... Why should he need to EARN his job...Good Riddance...Funny how the demands for competition only apply to Certain QB....Hurts is a rookie who has won more games than the top picks  with a brand New coach and system...a YET the ONLY  fu($#^\g opinion is that Hurts stats were garbage time stats...OMG...the venom towards our Black rookie QB. All this love for that POS Wentz ....that Refused to earn his job...Everybody not named Hurts...needs to replace him...Funny comments here about Hurts WEAK arm is BShi-t....Hurts is NoT Allen in Buff or...Murray...in AZ...or the few monster arms out there ... But he has more than enough arm talent to make every throw. 

P.O.S.   Piece of sh$t.

What is " refused to earn his job"  ?  He wanted out of this crap situation,  along with Doug,  along with Duce, along with Jenkins,  along with Ertz.....   you see the pattern ?????? 

No venom toward Hurts...  he isn't good enough to earn any venom.   Things may become clearer for you in time.   

35 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

LMAO it has zero to do with race,so stop that BS. Why was Hurts handed the job??? Because we had noone else. BTW he is NOT a rookie. We added Flacco and Minshew later,yet Hurts was handed the job because of Howie's ego. The FO failed to build a team around Wentz  and they used him and Ped as scapegoats for their own failures. If he has more than enough arm talent to make the throws,why isn't he making them??? It's year 2 and I see no improvement. Still looks like a college QB

He has the arm talent for college.  He has the arm talent for 1975 NFL.     In 2021, he doesn't have the arm... it's easy to see without having the  blinders on.   51 yards when in a full wind up is not good at all... when running left he has zero zip on the ball.  Really not hard to see... and I'm consistent in that I praise him for the accuracy on the screens and short crossing routes... if McNabb had that, would be easy hall of fame!

I'm sorry but this made me laugh

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