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1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

WHY? they love him in Vegas

They love Wilson in Seattle and Rodgers and GB but all have been in the trade talk mixes 

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1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

In all honesty I probably would not trade for a qb on the market id either go rookie in the draft or if we don’t like this class open competition with Hurts & Minshew next year and wait for 2023 

IDK for a "QB factory",we sure do suck at it lol

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

They love Wilson in Seattle and Rodgers and GB but all have been in the trade talk mixes 

Vegas is close to having a nice team. Losing Ruggs hurt bad,but I dont see them changing anything. They will get another WR and coach and go on. The last thing they need is a QB change

Nice to see we're expoliting their secondary

Nice drive by the Eagles...closed the deal with a score...That 06'08 WR from the Chargers is a monster how do you defend him.? Nice response by Hurts and the Birds 10. Plays 85 yds.

Justin Herbert is a stud so glad Jalen Hurts is just as good as ham says lmao 

Another bone head penalty on Barnett...could be a Game changer.

Grabbing defeat from the jaws of victory lol

Welp at least we kept it close and competitive 

4 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Welp at least we kept it close and competitive 

I can live with that. 

3 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Trade him when? I guess he's got 1 year left on his rookie deal after this year? I'm not against trading him but I don't think we get much for him. 

Gotta be offseason now.   Still think there are enough dopes out there that would trade for him... a day 2 pick is probable 

3 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Don’t you have to idk actually run him to even say he could or couldn’t make a difference??? Call me crazy though lol 

Idk... 2 coaches didn't really trust him in 3 years?   Rushing offense looked pretty good without him though?   Would he make a difference in the outcome of games?   Or just be the guy getting stats that these other " inferior " RBs have gotten the last 2 games?    If you could trade him, why not, especially since they have guys that can do his job.  

3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

RB's dropping like flies.I doubt we trade him

Would increase his value though wouldn't it?

2 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I just think that accuracy is going to get him in trouble in the NFL. I know Allen has similar issues coming out of college and I was never keen on him either. And to be honest I'm still not sure he's an elite QB but he's definitely developed a lot.

So how many elite QBs you have then?  

2 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

To this point not sure I’d trust Siri to develop Ridder… 

Yes.... and also would be nice to build a better team around the QB spot.   

2 scenarios...    1 = use a high pick and maybe more for a QB next year and have Siri develop him.

2 = wait..  see more of Siri,  and get better players in here,and a year to clean up more cap space.   If not Hurts,  try Mustache...  then make your move in 2023.    

To me,I like option 2 all day long.  Not even close.   I do not want to " Wentz" the next QB.  I prefer to " Murray" him.

Btw... how many points did AZ score today,  Murray had a good game? 

17 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Idk... 2 coaches didn't really trust him in 3 years?   Rushing offense looked pretty good without him though?   Would he make a difference in the outcome of games?   Or just be the guy getting stats that these other " inferior " RBs have gotten the last 2 games?    If you could trade him, why not, especially since they have guys that can do his job.  

Would increase his value though wouldn't it?

Sure,but with out luck we would lose 2 more. I suppose it doesn't matter,this year is a wash

11 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Yes.... and also would be nice to build a better team around the QB spot.   

2 scenarios...    1 = use a high pick and maybe more for a QB next year and have Siri develop him.

2 = wait..  see more of Siri,  and get better players in here,and a year to clean up more cap space.   If not Hurts,  try Mustache...  then make your move in 2023.    

To me,I like option 2 all day long.  Not even close.   I do not want to " Wentz" the next QB.  I prefer to " Murray" him.

Btw... how many points did AZ score today,  Murray had a good game? 

IDk other teams BU's look more coherent than Hurts.(sorry Ham) Brissett was ok, McCoy did a nice job in AZ,both BU's for the Jets played well,so I am curious how this team would look with Stache. We're seeing Siri take the game responsibility AWAY from Hurts which we should have done from day 1

13 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

prefer to " Murray" him

You mean draft Murray who only had Fitz then they want out and built the team around him 

23 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Idk... 2 coaches didn't really trust him in 3 years? 

You mean when he has 180 Carrie’s 50 catches as a rookie yup Doug didn’t trust him or when he had 164 and 28 in 12 games… Doug clearly trusted Sanders just fine and for the most part he produced 

4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

IDk other teams BU's look more coherent than Hurts.(sorry Ham) Brissett was ok, McCoy did a nice job in AZ,both BU's for the Jets played well,so I am curious how this team would look with Stache. We're seeing Siri take the game responsibility AWAY from Hurts which we should have done from day 1

GB,  you gotta look past Hurts.  He is irrelevant.   The idea is building a winner.   We know he isn't the guy, who cares.  The decision is do you rush to invest into a QB this offseaon with a coach you are still unsure of?  Or do you build the other spots and just give Mustache the job?   I don't care the level of " not championship QB" any current QB we have is.  It's irrelevant.  The decision is when to make the big move. 

9 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

You mean draft Murray who only had Fitz then they want out and built the team around him 

Which pick was Murray?

10 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

You mean draft Murray who only had Fitz then they want out and built the team around him 

Do you see us in that same position to build the team around a young QB if we have to invest the high picks to get him?  Can we buy Hopkins type next year with our cap situation?

But yeah... prefer to put the next QB in a no lose situation.  Don't trust this front office to do it QB first.    They seem to have Ham's mindset..... get " the savior"  and that's it. 

Not saying you can't do it QB first... just don't trust this organization to do it.  

Just now, joemas6 said:

Do you see us in that same position to build the team around a young QB if we have to invest the high picks to get him? 

You mean AZ was in that position…. joe your pint was wrong that simple… AZ had nothing when they drafted Murray and they just invest a 1st on a QB the year before were a bottom feeder team.  And if I recall correctly they weren’t in great cap situation when they drafted Murray either after the win now pushes with Arians. 

21 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Which pick was Murray?

Why does it matter what pick was Mahomes, Watson, Herbert, Wilson, Brady…. Scout your QB good ones are found all over. 

38 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Yes.... and also would be nice to build a better team around the QB spot.   

2 scenarios...    1 = use a high pick and maybe more for a QB next year and have Siri develop him.

2 = wait..  see more of Siri,  and get better players in here,and a year to clean up more cap space.   If not Hurts,  try Mustache...  then make your move in 2023.    

To me,I like option 2 all day long.  Not even close.   I do not want to " Wentz" the next QB.  I prefer to " Murray" him.

Btw... how many points did AZ score today,  Murray had a good game? 

Murray didn't play

Colt McCoy 22 of 26  249 yds ans a TD

2019 Cards.

make shift OL

WRs were old man Fitz and 3 rookie WRs

No TE of worth 

Injury prone David Johnson 

But yea they were way ahead of us man hope we follow that AZ cardinal style build that team first… Murray just had a loaded squad damn 

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Why does it matter what pick was Mahomes, Watson, Herbert, Wilson, Brady…. Scout your QB good ones are found all over. 

Because you know what this front office is going to do.    They will invest the whole thing in a QB and think that's it.   

Again,  just looking at it from Eagles fan perspective, I have zero faith in them doing it via QB first.   And at this point, you brought up great points in the question of trusting the current coaching in development of the rookie high draft pick.  Just would feel better getting the other stuff first, while seeing 2 seasons of Siri. 

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