1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Thinks there is a great option in this draft. Could we take a C in the first round though?

Dickerson was a C

18 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

There is an absolute stud

We hear that term alot,then they ride pine lol

There is no C worth a round 1 pick in this draft.

I feel DeMarvin Leal (DT) is a MUST have round 1. With 3 picks we better get him!!!!.I would say he goes in the 6-12 range. Kid is a beast 

I'm really alot better suited picking offense, so you guys can fight it out on who we take on D(although I still have my opinions), but this should be a defensive draft. I would be fine with an OT replacement for Lane, but Howie needs to get his head out of his arse and get some D guys in here pronto. Our pass rush has vaporized, very sad

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Except we've been doing that for 4 years to no avail. 

Disagree...  if we took the best player each time over the last 4 years we wouldn't be in this mess.   Reaching for position has gotten us here.  Go over all the picks and look 3 to 5 spots afterwards, tell me we drafted best player?   JJAW was best player or trying to fill the big WR roll?  Reagor was best player?  Was Smith best player?     If one of them was best player out of the 3 and not reaching for position , which one is it.   Do you like that result better?    

Highest ranked Center is Andrew Raym he is a low 2nd round grade from what I can see and should be available when the Eagles pick...

 

 

8 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

There is no C worth a round 1 pick in this draft.

The guy the Cowpies took a few years ago was pretty darn good. Name escapes me at the moment. And you're right i thought Dickerson was drafted to replace kelce, if he ever retires that is.

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Disagree...  if we took the best player each time over the last 4 years we wouldn't be in this mess.   Reaching for position has gotten us here.  Go over all the picks and look 3 to 5 spots afterwards, tell me we drafted best player?   JJAW was best player or trying to fill the big WR roll?  Reagor was best player?  Was Smith best player?     If one of them was best player out of the 3 and not reaching for position , which one is it.   Do you like that result better?    

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2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

. Our pass rush has vaporized, very sad

Team goes down hill real fast when that happens hunh?   Not shocking when you look at the history of football.  This has been my biggest concern over these last few years, the future of the DL.

10 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Disagree...  if we took the best player each time over the last 4 years we wouldn't be in this mess.   Reaching for position has gotten us here.  Go over all the picks and look 3 to 5 spots afterwards, tell me we drafted best player?   JJAW was best player or trying to fill the big WR roll?  Reagor was best player?  Was Smith best player?     If one of them was best player out of the 3 and not reaching for position , which one is it.   Do you like that result better?    

WE had the best players picked out,that's all on Howie. I Do think smith was the best player where we picked in that draft. IDK anyone who even had Jjaw on a board and as you know I wanted JJ over Reagor and we gifted the Vikes

7 minutes ago, stine said:

Highest ranked Center is Andrew Raym he is a low 2nd round grade from what I can see and should be available when the Eagles pick...

 

 

Dickerson was a C,so why did we get him???? 

  I HAVE LOOKED AT 3 rankings and they have all sorts of players ranked and not really any agreement of the top 20 by any means....

   I am thinking we need to wait until February/March before debating on who we should go after.....

BTW he wasn't supposed to play,still healing up,but I don't think he has played 1 snap at C????? Once again drafting guys and moving them where they don't fit. This really needs to stop

1 minute ago, stine said:

  I HAVE LOOKED AT 3 rankings and they have all sorts of players ranked and not really any agreement of the top 20 by any means....

   I am thinking we need to wait until February/March before debating on who we should go after.....

IDk top 5(other than QB's) look pretty set. Haven't seem alot of movement there. Thibodeux, Stingley,Neal pretty set in the top 5 barring a huge breakdown.We may not even be picking in the top 5

5 minutes ago, stine said:

  I HAVE LOOKED AT 3 rankings and they have all sorts of players ranked and not really any agreement of the top 20 by any means....

   I am thinking we need to wait until February/March before debating on who we should go after.....

True,just kicking names around

 Howie sure made a mess. It's hard to believe Lurie stands by him

25 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

WE had the best players picked out,that's all on Howie. I Do think smith was the best player where we picked in that draft. IDK anyone who even had Jjaw on a board and as you know I wanted JJ over Reagor and we gifted the Vikes

Right, so the best pick out of the 3 is Smith... they took the best player.   The other 2 not so much.   And forget JJ over Reagor, look at other positions, that's my point,  they forced WR there, that's first step prior to selecting the wrong one.    Too many holes now, gotta best player every pick this next draft.   We aren't close yet.  

34 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Disagree...  if we took the best player each time over the last 4 years we wouldn't be in this mess.

Hindsight is a beautiful thing good case could be made they did take the best players over the years just didn’t work out.

By all accounts Barnett was rated highly easily could have been the best player when we took him(though I wasn’t a fan), Sidney Jones was a perceived top 15 player we took in round 2 

Dallas Geodart though a backup was highly rated easily been top guy 

Dickerson again many viewed as a first rounder based on talent round 2 

Reagor/Jefferson debate but reagor was being highly touted in that draft was a mistake as hindsight shows. 
 

Of course have been examples of us getting to cute ie Hurts pick taking a backup QB when we had your franchise QB just never going to look good. 

20 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

BTW he wasn't supposed to play,still healing up,but I don't think he has played 1 snap at C????? Once again drafting guys and moving them where they don't fit. This really needs to stop

Dude, Kelce is not coming out of the game... and we don't know Dickerson was only drafted to play C.   They thought he was the best player,  just like Smith.    Why doesn't he fit at G ??  This is a bad example... look around at all the disgrace on this team and you focus on getting Kelce out so Dickerson can play C?  Really?

Your house is on fire, grab the watering can...lol.

19 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Hindsight is a beautiful thing good case could be made they did take the best players over the years just didn’t work out.

By all accounts Barnett was rated highly easily could have been the best player when we took him(though I wasn’t a fan), Sidney Jones was a perceived top 15 player we took in round 2 

Dallas Geodart though a backup was highly rated easily been top guy 

Dickerson again many viewed as a first rounder based on talent round 2 

Reagor/Jefferson debate but reagor was being highly touted in that draft was a mistake as hindsight shows. 
 

Of course have been examples of us getting to cute ie Hurts pick taking a backup QB when we had your franchise QB just never going to look good. 

I don't think they used position for EVERY pick.  Enough to where they screwed things up.  There is no position CURRENTLY, that I would pass on what I feel is the best player ...simply for the idea of need.   

6 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

There is no position CURRENTLY, that I would pass on what I feel is the best player ...simply for the idea of need.   

There is no team in the nfl that picks best player over need every pick  just isn’t realistic for the most part though the case can be made the eagles have taken what many perceived as the best player on the board.

Your the guy that comes on here saying why are we drafting backups ie Dallas Geodart who can easily say was the best player on the board over starters then say we need to take best player…. Can’t argue it both ways… Why the draft isn’t that black and white oh just take the best available guy every time 

40 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Right, so the best pick out of the 3 is Smith... they took the best player.   The other 2 not so much.   And forget JJ over Reagor, look at other positions, that's my point,  they forced WR there, that's first step prior to selecting the wrong one.    Too many holes now, gotta best player every pick this next draft.   We aren't close yet.  

Oh but WR was a HOLE for sure. If they had drafted JJ,then maybe they could have taken someone besides Smith,but he was the best player(IMO),so if you keep doing that you have top WR's(we would have had JJ and Smith)and let other positions slide,so yeah you need to draft for need. Like in round 1,if noone takes Olave and he falls to say our last 1 pick what do you do? Take another top WR? because he is the BPA? 

42 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Hindsight is a beautiful thing good case could be made they did take the best players over the years just didn’t work out.

By all accounts Barnett was rated highly easily could have been the best player when we took him(though I wasn’t a fan), Sidney Jones was a perceived top 15 player we took in round 2 

Dallas Geodart though a backup was highly rated easily been top guy 

Dickerson again many viewed as a first rounder based on talent round 2 

Reagor/Jefferson debate but reagor was being highly touted in that draft was a mistake as hindsight shows. 
 

Of course have been examples of us getting to cute ie Hurts pick taking a backup QB when we had your franchise QB just never going to look good. 

Reagor was highly touted,but not as highly touted as JJ. Howie blew that pick big time

42 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Dude, Kelce is not coming out of the game... and we don't know Dickerson was only drafted to play C.   They thought he was the best player,  just like Smith.    Why doesn't he fit at G ??  This is a bad example... look around at all the disgrace on this team and you focus on getting Kelce out so Dickerson can play C?  Really?

Your house is on fire, grab the watering can...lol.

Why can't we see his replacement(whomever that is) in garbage time????? Or are you gonna wait until kelce goes out then figure out he can't make the calls or get the snap count right????