1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

How you like Mac over Hurts is beyond me. Hurts is a much better player.

If i were new to this bored and didn't know better i'd swear you were either Hurts brother or his agent.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Hurts is a much better player.

Nope, that's in your head. I could believe you if we were on a 5 game winning streak

3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

And they got Kamara back I believe?

The early report on Kamara injury was at least 2 games...I would hope he is 100% when..if he faces us...but that is unlikely.....A report said he practiced Wednesday then missed practice Thursday...I hope he plays and Edwards and Taylor get to face a albeit injured/ nicked up Kamara.at least the Saints D Line is at full strength so when 1000 plus pounds of Nastiness ....Mialata. Dickerson. Kelce turns it loose...I am excited to see that DLine try to stop our crew. Howard is gonna Hammer them until the 3rd then Sanders gonna hammer them some more with a relatively SOFT schedule after this game. A win against the Saints could be a momentum bolster the rest of the way...Finally something to be excited about💥💥💥💥💥💥

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Let's see. After a rough ROOKIE start how many games have the Pats won in a row now? How many in a row do we have? And we arguably have better receivers than the Pats. The games we won were against bad teams and/or teams that had alot of missing players(you know like we did last year). So a 2nd year QB with mostly nice weapons and an improved O line can only muster 24 points a game?? Very sad. If Hurts was a franchise QB we would be scoring 41 against all these bad teams. But I'm with Joe, let's suck the '22 season also, as we battle to achieve the .500 bronze trophy once again,so it's abundantly clear Howie can't rebuild a team to save himself. With that in mind, Hurts gets another year,but frankly we are seeing the best he's got. Which is fine because that allows me another year of complaining. But yeah,if we keep improving that .500 club isn't far off now. Will hold to 6 wins this year and 8/9(if lucky) next year. Dullaz will own us(again) as they always do

OMG come ooonnnn NC you gonna come with that pathetic comparison... All WORLD 8 time World Champion Patriot franchise ....All Universe HOF Coach Bill Bellacheat whose SYSTEM has been in place for the last 100 yrs that is your comparison 😂😂😁😃.The same franchise that got pissed off that Brady won in Tampa, and spent more money on free agents than any other Franchise to surround their rookie QB .......Seriously...That Patriot team😂😅😅 I get Joe bias ... but come on you have been a more objective analyst than that...This is BS...Quote "The games we won were against bad teams"  ..." Really they had a lot of missing players"  ....So what did Siaranni or Hurts have to do with that like it is there fault ...stop the BS..I suspect the Haters the Wentz lovers need more convincing...I got NO problem with these young Birds EARNING their wings...Chamtheman I am all in with you on Hurts and Siranni...1 game at a time NO are 1st in line. Bring it on.mmoooohahahaha😂😂😂😂

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Let's see. After a rough ROOKIE start how many games have the Pats won in a row now? How many in a row do we have? And we arguably have better receivers than the Pats. The games we won were against bad teams and/or teams that had alot of missing players(you know like we did last year). So a 2nd year QB with mostly nice weapons and an improved O line can only muster 24 points a game?? Very sad. If Hurts was a franchise QB we would be scoring 41 against all these bad teams. But I'm with Joe, let's suck the '22 season also, as we battle to achieve the .500 bronze trophy once again,so it's abundantly clear Howie can't rebuild a team to save himself. With that in mind, Hurts gets another year,but frankly we are seeing the best he's got. Which is fine because that allows me another year of complaining. But yeah,if we keep improving that .500 club isn't far off now. Will hold to 6 wins this year and 8/9(if lucky) next year. Dullaz will own us(again) as they always do

We are the eleventh ranked offense. So he’s mustering more points than most of the league

17 minutes ago, Trini said:

OMG come ooonnnn NC you gonna come with that pathetic comparison... All WORLD 8 time Patriot franchise ....All Universe HOF Coach Bill Bellacheat whose SYSTEM has been in place for the last 100 yrs that is your comparison 😂😂😁😃.The same franchise that got pissed off that Brady won in Tampa, and spent more money on free agents than any other Franchise to surround their rookie QB .......Seriously...That Patriot team😂😅😅 I get Joe bias ... but come on you have been a more objective analyst than that...This is BS...Quote "The games we won were against bad teams"  ..." Really they had a lot of missing players"  ....So what did Siaranni or Hurts have to do with that like it is there fault ...stop the BS..I suspect the Haters the Wentz lovers need more convincing...I got NO problem with these young Birds EARNING their wings...Chamtheman I am all in with you on Hurts and Siranni...1 game at a time NO are 1st in line. Bring it on.

LMAO yeah they take players noone has heard of and make them household names(remember Garappolo came from NE also????). It's not my fault we hire losers and it's not my fault we think this noodle arm QB is the key to success running a college offense for 8 weeks. They(Pats) wanted a QB for the next 15 years, how long does Brady have 1-2 more???? They grabbed Cam knowing he wasn't the guy,but they were rebuilding(unlike us who will ride Hurts to .500 for the next 4 years). Then they had the intelligence to make the move after 1 year of rebuilding for the future,unlike us who will waste WR talent on a lame QB. Then when those WR contracts are up and we have to pay them,THEN we will look for a QB which will once again put us right back to the Wentz disaster(but yeah keep trying the same thing over and over lol) after the fact you missed all these guys in their prime and they go play elsewhere). What's BS is you can't admit we beat BAD teams LMFAO. At week 10 it's a bit late to "bring it on" LMAO too comical. bringing it on should have started in week 2/3. But grab one of Hams pom pom's,you're gonna need it until you realize what keeps this team from post season success,is the guy you and Ham worship

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We are the eleventh ranked offense. So he’s mustering more points than most of the league

Sure, we found a running game(after 8 weeks) and the Lions game sure padded those stats lol and the fact we haven't played anyone of consequence,or should I say we haven't BEATEN anyone of consequence except maybe for Denver

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Nope, that's in your head. I could believe you if we were on a 5 game winning streak

How you blame the QB in such a team game is beyond me. Feels like how the media and barely casual type fans view the sport.

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

LMAO yeah they take players noone has heard of and make them household names(remember Garappolo came from NE also????). It's not my fault we hire losers and it's not my fault we think this noodle arm QB is the key to success running a college offense for 8 weeks. They(Pats) wanted a QB for the next 15 years, how long does Brady have 1-2 more???? They grabbed Cam knowing he wasn't the guy,but they were rebuilding(unlike us who will ride Hurts to .500 for the next 4 years). Then they had the intelligence to make the move after 1 year of rebuilding for the future,unlike us who will waste WR talent on a lame QB. Then when those WR contracts are up and we have to pay them,THEN we will look for a QB mwhich will once again put us right back to the Wentz disaster(but yeah keep trying the same thing over and over lol) after the fact you missed all these guys in their prime and they go play elsewhere). What's BS is you can't admit we beat BAD teams LMFAO. At week 10 it's a bit late to "bring it on" LMAO too comical. bringing it on should have started in week 2/3. But grab one of Hams pom pom's,you're gonna need it until you realize what keeps this team from post season success,is the guy you and Ham worship

There we go this FL/ NC...real analysis.

4 minutes ago, Trini said:

There we go this FL/ NC...real analysis.

So was your post?. LMK when we hit a 5 game winning streak ok? Pats are doing it with a ROOKIE and we can't win TWO in a row with better WR's?

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

How you blame the QB in such a team game is beyond me. Feels like how the media and barely casual type fans view the sport.

You give all the wins to Hurts also right? QB's win or lose games ,thats' why they are the hghest paid?????

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

LMAO yeah they take players noone has heard of and make them household names(remember Garappolo came from NE also????). It's not my fault we hire losers and it's not my fault we think this noodle arm QB is the key to success running a college offense for 8 weeks. They(Pats) wanted a QB for the next 15 years, how long does Brady have 1-2 more???? They grabbed Cam knowing he wasn't the guy,but they were rebuilding(unlike us who will ride Hurts to .500 for the next 4 years). Then they had the intelligence to make the move after 1 year of rebuilding for the future,unlike us who will waste WR talent on a lame QB. Then when those WR contracts are up and we have to pay them,THEN we will look for a QB mwhich will once again put us right back to the Wentz disaster(but yeah keep trying the same thing over and over lol) after the fact you missed all these guys in their prime and they go play elsewhere). What's BS is you can't admit we beat BAD teams LMFAO. At week 10 it's a bit late to "bring it on" LMAO too comical. bringing it on should have started in week 2/3. But grab one of Hams pom pom's,you're gonna need it until you realize what keeps this team from post season success,is the guy you and Ham worship

This is just not a very realistic point of view. Takes time for a young team and coaches to sort things out. You love Mac who has arguably a weaker arm than Hurts. Hurts is outplaying him even though he was a second round pick while Mac was a first rounder. Not too mention all the plays Hurts makes with his legs. He is an ELITE runner.

8 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Sure, we found a running game)(after 8 weeks) and the Lions game sure padded those stats lol and the fact we haven't played anyone of consequence

Yes definitely not tough stuff like the Pats. They had those gauntlet of games. Two games vs the Jets. Falcons., Dolphins, Texans. Just brutal elite NFL squads they’ve overcome.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Mac was a first rounder

LOL yeah a whole what 12 spot difference? Idk what it was exactly unless you want me to look it up but it's not that far apart. Hurts was drafted as a BACK UP(and that's what he is). Now you dream he is a franchise guy lol

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yes definitely not tough stuff like the Pats. They had those gauntlet of games. Two games vs the Jets. Falcons., Dolphins, Texans. Just brutal elite NFL squads they’ve overcome.

Lost to Miami in Jones FIRST EVER NFL game by ONE. Hurts is not a rookie,Jones IS Atl was an early game also.If Hurts was a ROOKIE,then you'd have an argument,but hes not. Why are the Pats on a 5 game winning streak and we can't win 2 in a row???

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

LOL yeah a whole what 12 spot difference? Idk what it was exactly unless you want me to look it up but it's not that far apart. Hurts was drafted as a BACK UP(and that's what he is). Now you dream he is a franchise guy lol

If their draft spot difference is nothing then why are you b1t7hing so much about us winning?

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Lost to Miami in Jones FIRST EVER NFL game by ONE. Hurts is not a rookie,Jones IS Atl was an early game also.If Hurts was a ROOKIE,then you'd have an argument,but hes not. Why are the Pats on a 5 game winning streak and we can't win 2 in a row???

I’m sure it’s because it’s a one man game. Mac is playing far superior defense than Hurts.

1	Sun, Sep 12	@Atlanta	W32-6	1-0	Hurts 264	Sanders 74	Smith 71
2	Sun, Sep 19	vsSan Francisco	L17-11	1-1	Hurts 190	Hurts 82	Watkins 117
3	Mon, Sep 27	@Dallas	L41-21	1-2	Hurts 326	Hurts 35	Goedert 66
4	Sun, Oct 3	vsKansas City	L42-30	1-3	Hurts 387	Hurts 47	Smith 122
5	Sun, Oct 10	@Carolina	W21-18	2-3	Hurts 198	Sanders 45	Smith 77
6	Thu, Oct 14	vsTampa Bay	L28-22	2-4	Hurts 115	Sanders 56	Watkins 44
7	Sun, Oct 24	@Las Vegas	L33-22	2-5	Hurts 236	Hurts 61	Goedert 70
8	Sun, Oct 31	@Detroit	W44-6	3-5	Hurts 103	Hurts 71	Goedert 72
9	Sun, Nov 7	vsLos Angeles	L27-24	3-6	Hurts 162	Howard 71	Smith 116
10	Sun, Nov 14	@Denver	W30-13	4-6	Hurts 178	Howard 83	Smith 66

So when we can WIN against "teams of consequence" then you have a argument,but right now you don't. The Denver win was nice,now lets beat the Saints

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

1	Sun, Sep 12	@Atlanta	W32-6	1-0	Hurts 264	Sanders 74	Smith 71
2	Sun, Sep 19	vsSan Francisco	L17-11	1-1	Hurts 190	Hurts 82	Watkins 117
3	Mon, Sep 27	@Dallas	L41-21	1-2	Hurts 326	Hurts 35	Goedert 66
4	Sun, Oct 3	vsKansas City	L42-30	1-3	Hurts 387	Hurts 47	Smith 122
5	Sun, Oct 10	@Carolina	W21-18	2-3	Hurts 198	Sanders 45	Smith 77
6	Thu, Oct 14	vsTampa Bay	L28-22	2-4	Hurts 115	Sanders 56	Watkins 44
7	Sun, Oct 24	@Las Vegas	L33-22	2-5	Hurts 236	Hurts 61	Goedert 70
8	Sun, Oct 31	@Detroit	W44-6	3-5	Hurts 103	Hurts 71	Goedert 72
9	Sun, Nov 7	vsLos Angeles	L27-24	3-6	Hurts 162	Howard 71	Smith 116
10	Sun, Nov 14	@Denver	W30-13	4-6	Hurts 178	Howard 83	Smith 66

So when we can WIN against "teams of consequence" then you have a argument,but right now you don't. The Denver win was nice,now lets beat the Saints

It’s a team game. We are paying Malik Jackson, Desean Jackson and Carson Wentz the most dead money this season in the history of the league. But none of that matters to you. Our record is solely based on Hurts being so terrible.

10 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

If their draft spot difference is nothing then why are you b1t7hing so much about us winning?

I’m sure it’s because it’s a one man game. Mac is playing far superior defense than Hurts.

1)Because the next draft is in the future not the past and you control where you pick in that draft. Why did we draft Hurts when we had Wentz?  2) IDC what the defense does, the QB's job is to win games, that's why it's the highest paid position and we've faced some pretty bad defenses and lost. We will just have to disagree forever Ham. Hurts is a fill in,so if you want the best team you need the best draft spots you can get 

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It’s a team game. We are paying Malik Jackson, Desean Jackson and Carson Wentz the most dead money this season in the history of the league. But none of that matters to you. Our record is solely based on Hurts being so terrible.

What the hell do I care about past guys? Has ZERO to do with the team winning this year. We have some very nice WR's why aren't we scoring 41 points game? If we were losing 45-41,then you;d have a point

I think we are a young team(coaches snd players). I’m seeing improvement from pretty much everybody. Team is starting to find its identity. 

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I think we are a young team(coaches snd players). I’m seeing improvement from pretty much everybody. Team is starting to find its identity. 

I can give you some on this point. I'm just SICK that Siri tried the college RPO offense for 8 weeks,when everyone on this board knew better. That shakes my confidence. Now that Siri has seen the light we are playing better or at least more coherently because Siri took the game AWAY from Hurts

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

1)Because the next draft is in the future not the past and you control where you pick in that draft. Why did we draft Hurts when we had Wentz?  2) IDC what the defense does, the QB's job is to win games, that's why it's the highest paid position and we've faced some pretty bad defenses and lost. We will just have to disagree forever Ham. Hurts is a fill in,so if you want the best team you need the best draft spots you can get 

What the hell do I care about past guys? Has ZERO to do with the team winning this year

Has everything to do with this years team. They are taking up the most dead cap space in league history. Or do you not think if we brought in a bunch of expensive top free agents we couldn’t be a better team? No team has ever been as handicapped as this year’s squad financially. Hard to be a contender when your paying massive amounts to guys playing for other teams. Seems like a very easy concept to understand to me.

6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Has everything to do with this years team. They are taking up the most dead cap space in league history. Or do you not think if we brought in a bunch of expensive top free agents we couldn’t be a better team? No team has ever been as handicapped as this year’s squad financially. Hard to be a contender when your paying massive amounts to guys playing for other teams. Seems like a very easy concept to understand to me.

LMAO no see that's the mistakes we made by doing that annually because we could not draft. Now we have some top WR's(or they may be) that we pay nothing for and nice new ROOK RB that we pay nothing for and a QB we pay nothing for because Howie lost the guy he sold the farm for and had to play his BU. So now next draft we have lots of picks- high picks, so you can rebuild the lines and defense and keep playing your "free" QB another year(which I suspect we do) or you can go get a #1 QB because now we have the WR's for him. So there is an arguement either way,but as it stands Hurts is a placeholder

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

LMAO no see that's the mistakes we made by doing that annually because we could not draft. Now we have some top WR's(or they may be) that we pay nothing for and nice new ROOK RB that we pay nothing for and a QB we pay nothing for because Howie lost the guy he sold the farm for and had to play his BU. So now next draft we have lots of pick high picks, so you can rebuild the lines and defense and keep playing your "free" QB another year(which I suspect we do) or you can go get a #1 QB because now we have the WR's for him

Go get who?

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Go get who?

We can move up in the draft if we wanted to, if we see a franchise QB emerge. It's not like we don;t have draft ammo. Some have said we go after Wilson. IDK if thats wise,but hey it's Howie