1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

They really seemed to have those guys doubled. Refs let them get away with a bunch of grabbing in coverage also. They had a real good idea of what our O looks like.

Happened all over the league

Almost looks like the refs were told to back off the PI calls after last week.

4 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I’m giving benefit of the doubt he was throwing to the open guy which was Reagor lol didn’t do a play by play breakdown to see it.

Of course the QB decides who to throw to but like to think the QB would throw to the open player not a hard concept. 

100%.... my thing here is people blaming thr coach for this.... which is stupid.   You gave the #s... we ran it more than passing it... if we need to run 75% of the time, we have the wrong QB and WRs.  This is on them.  Plenty of teams put up 30 points while passing more than running... if we need to run 3/4 of the time to score more than 7... that not coaching. 

4 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I'm calling Hurts "Noodle-roni" from now on. Just sad. I'm wondering what vids Howie was watching. Could he not see the weak arm? Or is the FO SOOOOO into college ball they want that here????(Chip,Ped,now Siri). I think it's high time we hired a professional coach

Idk... but the dude on NFL network said Hurts threw a " dart" to Reagor at the end .... idk what these people are watching... maybe high school or pip warner???  But is that considered a dart in today's NFL?   

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m not overreacting to this one game. Beat the Jets. Then get a chance to really self scout again and adapt over the bye week for the home stretch.

I think it was more overreacting the last few weeks , not this week.

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

They really seemed to have those guys doubled. Refs let them get away with a bunch of grabbing in coverage also. They had a real good idea of what our O looks like.

They DT'd everyone but Reagor? They had 15 guys on defense? Maybe they know Reagor can't catch worth squat. I think this would be league wide knowledge by now

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m not overreacting to this one game. Beat the Jets. Then get a chance to really self scout again and adapt over the bye week for the home stretch.

If Hurts throws 3 picks we're not beating the Jets either

46 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Serious question do you sit hurts depending on the ankle??? His biggest asset is his run ability if he is hobbled even little it really hurts him(pun not intended)…

Also risk him injuring the ankle more if he try’s and guts it out. Not sure how bad the ankle is but they talking already him questionable vs the jets 

He plays.   You gotta treat him like a franchise QB and see how he handles it.   Might be the best thing for him if he can't run...then he is forced to play QB like an NFL player.  That is where he needs the work.

57 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

And??? If the refs let them play who cares that exactly what playoff football looks like if the WRs have issues getting open with some grabbing and jockeying for position we are in trouble 

Why I want Wilson in this next draft. he is a superb route runner(Olave also but now I like Wilson a little better) paired with Smith, another great route runner. Then we can watch as these guys get open and Hurts can't hit them. That should smack Howie upside da haid(if it hasn't already)

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

They DT'd everyone but Reagor? They had 15 guys on defense? 

It's what it seems like when you hear fans defend the QB doesn't it?   And not just on here, I saw some local media saying it.  Somehow they put extra guys in the box and still were able to double Smith and Goedert, and cover the other 3 guys???     

50 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Serious question do you sit hurts depending on the ankle??? His biggest asset is his run ability if he is hobbled even little it really hurts him(pun not intended)…

Also risk him injuring the ankle more if he try’s and guts it out. Not sure how bad the ankle is but they talking already him questionable vs the jets 

Give Stahce a shot. If HE sucks too, at least we know it. And we need to know by draft day or if we need to go find a QB in FA(although I dont like this option)

Just now, joemas6 said:

It's what it seems like when you hear fans defend the QB doesn't it?   And not just on here, I saw some local media saying it.  Somehow they put extra guys in the box and still were able to double Smith and Goedert, and cover the other 3 guys???     

I know they had at least 15 on defense and 18 on 3rd down and the refs just failed to call it

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Give Stahce a shot. If HE sucks too, at least we know it. And we need to know by draft day or if we need to go find a QB in FA(although I dont like this option)

I know they had at least 15 on defense and 18 on 3rd down and the refs just failed to call it

They had us figured out. 😆

6 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

He plays.   You gotta treat him like a franchise QB and see how he handles it.   Might be the best thing for him if he can't run...then he is forced to play QB like an NFL player.  That is where he needs the work.

LOL then we're in big trouble.  Oh well, draft capital a little better then. 

IDk, I would like to see Stache play in this offense. Even if it's 1/4 not just handing off in garbage time

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Give Stahce a shot. If HE sucks too, at least we know it. And we need to know by draft day or if we need to go find a QB in FA(although I dont like this option)

Stache and Hurts are here next year..they are cheap.   Once we go Stache, I want that to be it.   I'm ok waiting until next year.  Just as long this sharade with the current guy gets finished 100% with no doubt.  If it takes to thr point where EVERY fan never wants to see another read option play for the rest of their lives, I can wait.

3 minutes ago, EaglesTD123 said:

LOL then we're in big trouble.  Oh well, draft capital a little better then. 

You just figuring that out now? Like a year later?

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

They had us figured out. 😆

That's RPO, where you have 8 plays 🤣

11 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

He plays.   You gotta treat him like a franchise QB and see how he handles it.   Might be the best thing for him if he can't run...then he is forced to play QB like an NFL player.  That is where he needs the work.

I’d be fine with this but then all we would hear is it wasn’t Hurts fault he had a bum ankle 

5 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Stache and Hurts are here next year..they are cheap.   Once we go Stache, I want that to be it.   I'm ok waiting until next year.  Just as long this sharade with the current guy gets finished 100% with no doubt.  If it takes to thr point where EVERY fan never wants to see another read option play for the rest of their lives, I can wait.

You just figuring that out now? Like a year later?

I agree,we need to see what we have from both. This would tell me what I need to do next year. I don't see any mind bending QB's this next draft. If ones falls and is a good value ok,but I would really plan for going for it in '23. Alot better choices then,but we could maybe find a more viable BU(like Hurts) At least one that shows progress

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

That's RPO, where you have 8 plays 🤣

There is actually 8?   Didn't realize it was that much!

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

There is actually 8?   Didn't realize it was that much!

Well you have to count the punt as a play, after the 3 and outs 🤣

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I’d be fine with this but then all we would hear is it wasn’t Hurts fault he had a bum ankle 

I don't care about the " it's not Hurts fault " people at this point.   I will counter with what I've been saying...he is a great runner that can't throw at the NFL level.  Idk... maybe another crap showing from Baltimore in the playoffs is what is needed??   Somehow it will register soon enough with people that you don't win with the gimmick offense.   To his credit, I give Kyler Murray some praise, he wants to be seen as a great passer and if he contributed at all to them getting the new receiving talent, then kudos to him...that's how you win in this league.

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

I don't care about the " it's not Hurts fault " people at this point.   I will counter with what I've been saying...he is a great runner that can't throw at the NFL level.  Idk... maybe another crap showing from Baltimore in the playoffs is what is needed??   Somehow it will register soon enough with people that you don't win with the gimmick offense.   To his credit, I give Kyler Murray some praise, he wants to be seen as a great passer and if he contributed at all to them getting the new receiving talent, then kudos to him...that's how you win in this league.

Jackson is KILLING my fantasy team. We even see Mahomes struggling. Maybe we are going back to the days of yore when real football was played

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Well you have to count the punt as a play, after the 3 and outs 🤣

One thing I see happening now... yesterday was the first time Hurts took shots after handing the ball off in the RPO style...  according to the rules he is fair game when he does that,  watch how he takes more shots now, teams have nothing to loss.  Should be obvious that you need to take away his running.

IDK,this offense reminds me of playing lot football when I was little. OK jimmy you go deep, Dave buttonhook on 2 ready break!!!

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Jackson is KILLING my fantasy team. We even see Mahomes struggling. Maybe we are going back to the days of yore when real football was played

Mahomes is doing better, they were trying to force the big play earlier in a lot of games.   He seems better just taking what the D gives... but he is a phenomenal passer, that can run a little.  Doesn't need to have a ton of rushing attempts

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

One thing I see happening now... yesterday was the first time Hurts took shots after handing the ball off in the RPO style...  according to the rules he is fair game when he does that,  watch how he takes more shots now, teams have nothing to loss.  Should be obvious that you need to take away his running.

Sad part is ,the Gnats D is nothing special at all. I was rather shocked!!! All we did was win the ineptness game,we out inepted them 2:1

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

IDK,this offense reminds me of playing lot football when I was little. OK jimmy you go deep, Dave buttonhook on 2 ready break!!!

Idk, we always had the bigger kids QB because they could throw it further.  This is more like when it was 4th down close to the end zone and just have the little kid float it up so the big kid can catch it.