8 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Hurts took the guys job. Happens

Howie took the guy's job by drafting Hurts and pissing Wentz off. Get your facts straight. We had a franchise QB here(with no team around him) and Howie pissed him off by drafting this fool,instead of getting Wentz a  player to help him or even get a defensive piece. So let's not kid ourselves as to who forced Wentz out. Hurts didn't take his job,he inherited the job when Howie forced Wentz and Ped out

5 hours ago, joemas6 said:

1. Your team has ONE title in your lifetime... the hatred you express for the guy who was the best player on that team is hilarious.  No shot they win a SB without him. NONE!

2.  Expectations are BS.  Results are all that matters.  Wentz doesn't win another SB and his career will be a failure, in contrast if Hurts gets a 2nd contract in the league, he will be considered a success.   For me, I want SB as the goal, nothing else matters.    

Right now the bar is low, and a lot of the fanbase likes that.  The loser mentality with the fear of failure.   That's where you are now, happy to lose a game 13-7 to the Giants instead of 38-31 to Tampa.  1289

I would be(technically) thrilled with a 38-31 loss. That means we are performing, but lost to a better team which is what I am asking for. Keep scoring 31 points a game and the wins will sort themselves. Get to 38 points a game and now you are a post season team who must be dealt with. Good things happen when you CONSISTENTLY put up 30+ a game. Easily should have scored 30+ vs one of the worst D's in the league. But you know what? Noone CARES.if you drop a pass on a Brady team he gets in your face!!!! On a Hurts team it's "yeah well whatever". That was evidenced by the blow off by Reagor in his interview. "Maybe next week" is a line of BS and if I was Siri,I would bench his ass just for that uncaring comment!! I'm glad everyone likes each other and is having a fun time, but Siri needs to go if he can't motivate these guys or give them backlash for BS comments. "Maybe next week" in my view, is not going to cut in on any team EVER. I now want Reagor gone or benched because he doesn't give a crap about his performances(or lack thereof). There was no concern at all on Reagor's part and a GOOD coach would  say "you are benched until you can catch every practice ball thats catchable and I never want to hear you blow off your failures AGAIN!!!. You need to WORK harder and you better start NOW" Siri needs a coaching wake up call. I'm happy everyone is having fun together,now can we try making a football team????(a winning one?) Not with Reagor's attitude you won't

6 hours ago, joemas6 said:

1. Your team has ONE title in your lifetime... the hatred you express for the guy who was the best player on that team is hilarious.  No shot they win a SB without him. NONE!

2.  Expectations are BS.  Results are all that matters.  Wentz doesn't win another SB and his career will be a failure, in contrast if Hurts gets a 2nd contract in the league, he will be considered a success.   For me, I want SB as the goal, nothing else matters.    

Right now the bar is low, and a lot of the fanbase likes that.  The loser mentality with the fear of failure.   That's where you are now, happy to lose a game 13-7 to the Giants instead of 38-31 to Tampa.  1289

Go root for the Colts then. I’m stubborn. This is my team. Guy helped along with soooooooo…..many others. But he didn’t really win us sh12’. Your goal for Wentz is way beyond anything he’s accomplished. Facts are: Wentz Zero. Big game playoff wins. Hurts: Zero big game playoff wins. 

I realize our team sucks. Why would expectations be so high? Use Hurts as the whipping boy. Whatever. I saw a raw nothing team trying to be molded. Think I’ve seen the clay worked some here. Maybe not enough to work with….but we have a whole culture based on each other. Let’s all stick together and get better. Never something Mr Too Good would embrace. But I see a core group of guys taking lumps together. Really feel the coaching staff is a part of this.

Who’s coachable going forward? Think I can’t answer this the way they see things right now. But hard working coachable guys….I can live with.

11 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It was a bad play by Hurts. But put in context: he threaded a ball on the move for a TD. Had a TD called back for Oline holding. Not a good play….but you can see how it all lead to Hurts feeling a need to force things. Doesn’t excuse it. Gotta put the last play behind you. 

No there was never a need to force anything we were down 3 point going into the half…. Get rid of the ball… all your doing is trying to make excuses for Hurts by adding the two previous statements that have nothing to do with him throwing a terrible pass at a terrible time in a situation he had no reason to 

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I realize our team sucks. Why would expectations be so high? Use Hurts as the whipping boy. Whatever

This is my biggest issue with you you literally love to bring up the TEAM when it comes to Hurts yet anytime you talk Wentz it’s just he didn’t do this by himself… The double standards are unreal with you. 
 

Even the colts loss to the Bucs you only like to bring up Wentz int at the end where is the rest of the break down you give Hurts you never just bring up Hurts when talking Eagles 

But enough on Hurts… This is an interesting week for us. Got the Jets Minshew could be in line to play.

And I said before Minshew playing could be a great way to truly grade Siri and this passing attack.

If Minshew plays and the passing attack takes steps forward maybe Siri isn’t designing such a terrible passing attack… Yet on the flip if the O takes a step backups passing game still struggles plus less dynamic ground game 

13 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Some huge lessons the giants seems to have figured out. Now….these young guys need to adapt and overcome. What specifics did you notice on players? Seems like they got physical with Watkins. He’s fast but easily forced off his route. Surprised we didn’t motion him more.

 Ham, the Giants defense is terrible. No matter what they "Figured" out we should easily been able to move the ball. We had Wide open receivers on many plays that Hurts did not see. He has terrible field vision. Yet you tell us the Giants Defense figured us out when no one else could? That is how you spin it? Sorry bud. You can only back up your QB so much before you have to admit he may not be the answer. Whatever, Let's move on. We play the Jets this week. A team that we should easily beat, even if Hurts is playing on a sore ankle. Time for him to prove he can carry this team with his arm. He had a bad game. I will not totally dismiss him yet. Not sure if Siri is helping him or not. You brought up Mac from NE. I see tremendous growth in him. Bill has taken him aside and taught him what to look for. Situational Football 101. BB knows all of this and will keep pounding it into Mac until he knows it by heart. Not surprising NE is in first place with a rookie QB.

19 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

But enough on Hurts… This is an interesting week for us. Got the Jets Minshew could be in line to play.

And I said before Minshew playing could be a great way to truly grade Siri and this passing attack.

If Minshew plays and the passing attack takes steps forward maybe Siri isn’t designing such a terrible passing attack… Yet on the flip if the O takes a step backups passing game still struggles plus less dynamic ground game 

  For me, I do not want Minshew to play. First, if he does well then we all have the town talking about him playing the rest of the year and we are no further grading Hurts as a Future QB. Second, if Minshew plays well then we win a few more games just missing the play-offs. Our draft pick drops down 5-6 spots. lastly and probably most important is we end up using all of our first round picks on a questionable QB in the 2022 draft instead of building up the defense for the future.

  All of the grading on Siri can happen next year when we have a decent team. If he cannot do the job we can get rid of him and hire someone that knows how to coach instead of (Rock, Paper, Scissors)

13 minutes ago, stine said:

  For me, I do not want Minshew to play. First, if he does well then we all have the town talking about him playing the rest of the year and we are no further grading Hurts as a Future QB. Second, if Minshew plays well then we win a few more games just missing the play-offs. Our draft pick drops down 5-6 spots. lastly and probably most important is we end up using all of our first round picks on a questionable QB in the 2022 draft instead of building up the defense for the future.

  All of the grading on Siri can happen next year when we have a decent team. If he cannot do the job we can get rid of him and hire someone that knows how to coach instead of (Rock, Paper, Scissors)

Using the picks on a QB in 2022 can be done whether it’s Hurts or Minshew doesn’t make a difference. Grading Hurts what are you Grading him on if he is hobbled by an ankle injury and worse yet injures himself more by forcing himself to play on it with a bye week right after???

The Eagles have 16 games of tape of Hurts they can make a decision on him gaining more information on Siri and what he can do should be something that we should want. Is Siri holding Hurts back or is Hurts holding Siri back is a valid question not saying Minshew can answer that but can give us tad more insight on the passing attack that is lacking 

As for the QB class Kenny Pickett going to be a stud heard it here first. Say this class will end up better then the so called strong 2021 class. 

14 minutes ago, stine said:

All of the grading on Siri can happen next year when we have a decent team. If he cannot do the job we can get rid of him and hire someone that knows how to coach instead of (Rock, Paper, Scissors)

How do you grade Siri next year if Hurts is still the QB and the passing game still sucks??? Is it Siri fault or is it Hurts fault??? If the goal is to bolster the defense then we are not adding much to the offense to really change anything the defense doesn’t help us grade the offense??

20 minutes ago, stine said:

we win a few more games just missing the play-offs

This we play the Jets, NY, Washington twice then Dallas…. Minshew or Hurts good chance we winning a few more games we play terrible teams down the stretch you think we are losing out based on the QB???? 

4 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Using the picks on a QB in 2022 can be done whether it’s Hurts or Minshew doesn’t make a difference. Grading Hurts what are you Grading him on if he is hobbled by an ankle injury and worse yet injures himself more by forcing himself to play on it with a bye week right after???

The Eagles have 16 games of tape of Hurts they can make a decision on him gaining more information on Siri and what he can do should be something that we should want. Is Siri holding Hurts back or is Hurts holding Siri back is a valid question not saying Minshew can answer that but can give us tad more insight on the passing attack that is lacking 

As for the QB class Kenny Pickett going to be a stud heard it here first. Say this class will end up better then the so called strong 2021 class. 

 If he can't go then he shouldn't. But if he can play, he should. All QB's play hurt. That is part of the process. Grade him how well he plays when not 100%. All Elite QBs play when hobbled by a nagging injury. Of course if he can't run at all, that is a different story. Regardless of if Hurts plays, you can still grade coaching. That happens every game. How does he prepare? How does he manage the clock? Did he make any adjustments? Did he make the right decisions? This happens no matter who is playing.

  As for Pickett, I have no clue how good he is, but Detroit and Houston both need a QB, so chances are our guy will not be there....

I probably have us winning 3 more games possibly 4 depending on the final game with Dallas… If they locked the division likely rest the starters. 

3 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

This we play the Jets, NY, Washington twice then Dallas…. Minshew or Hurts good chance we winning a few more games we play terrible teams down the stretch you think we are losing out based on the QB???? 

  Washington is better than us. Good chance they sweep us. Dallas may need to win so I put faith in winning more than 2 games very unlikely with Hurts as QB...

1 minute ago, stine said:

Grade him how well he plays when not 100%. All Elite QBs play when hobbled by a nagging injury. Of course if he can't run at all, that is a different story. Regardless of if Hurts plays, you can still grade coaching. That happens every game. How does he prepare? How does he manage the clock? Did he make any adjustments? Did he make the right decisions? This happens no matter who is playing.

Your asking a guy who best asset is his running ability to play when he likely won’t be able to run the way he is used to??? We can play hurts and you likely get see him have to be a passer but I don’t want to hear the well he was injured excuse brought up after if he struggles as a passer can’t have it both ways

Allot depends on this wee BG. Jets win and we most likely only win 2 more. We win and we will most likely win 3 more. Possibly 4 if Dallas sits player....

1 minute ago, stine said:

  Washington is better than us. Good chance they sweep us. Dallas may need to win so I put faith in winning more than 2 games very unlikely with Hurts as QB...

Washington is an inconsistent team with a meh QB and lost there best defensive player… I do think they are better then us but not like they are runaway better. 
 

As for Dallas I stated I could depend on what happens hence the if they locked up the division statement. 

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Your asking a guy who best asset is his running ability to play when he likely won’t be able to run the way he is used to??? We can play hurts and you likely get see him have to be a passer but I don’t want to hear the well he was injured excuse brought up after if he struggles as a passer can’t have it both ways

  My God! A QB needs to have the ability to throw the Ball! If Hurts only asset is running we already have our answer! I am not asking anyone to play injured. If the ankle is sore but he can still run, he needs to play. I could care less what excuses others make. I need to see how Hurts responds when not 100%

1 minute ago, stine said:

Allot depends on this wee BG. Jets win and we most likely only win 2 more. We win and we will most likely win 3 more. Possibly 4 if Dallas sits player....

2-4 wins if we are sitting at 7 wins or 8 wins the draft pick isn’t changing that much we likely are not going to have two top 10 picks unless we loss out and so do the dolphins. We likely going to have 3 picks in the 10-18 range 

Just now, stine said:

  My God! A QB needs to have the ability to throw the Ball! If Hurts only asset is running we already have our answer! I am not asking anyone to play injured. If the ankle is sore but he can still run, he needs to play. I could care less what excuses others make. I need to see how Hurts responds when not 100%

You have had 16 games to see Hurts as a passer it’s been the debate we have had on this board for months…. He isn’t a good passer it isn’t hard to see sorry if I don’t need to see a hobbled Hurts play to find out more of his not being a good passer. 
 

Id much rather find out more on Siri then playing an injured hurts without his best asset to me that is far more valuable 

Our Schedule is one of the easiest, so all ties would go our way in the win-loss column. So, having 7 wins vs 9 would indeed be huge. 8 vs 9 could mean 3-4 slots as well....

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

You have had 16 games to see Hurts as a passer it’s been the debate we have had on this board for months…. He isn’t a good passer it isn’t hard to see sorry if I don’t need to see a hobbled Hurts play to find out more of his not being a good passer. 
 

Id much rather find out more on Siri then playing an injured hurts without his best asset to me that is far more valuable 

   Your mind is made up on Hurts. I get that. But not everyone else's mind is. So we need to see more to help make everyone's mind at ease....

1 minute ago, stine said:

So, having 7 wins vs 9 would indeed be huge. 8 vs 9 could mean 3-4 slots as well....

So we are picking 12th instead of 14th-15th sorry it’s not that huge to me… 

Like if we were talking being top 5 vs being outside the top 10 I’d understand but as it stands now if we win 7+ games we are not going to have a top 10 pick