Another thing to consider is remember where Minshew played last. Jacksonville's O-Line was terrible. Amazing what a Middle of the road QB can do when he has time to go through his progressions!

9 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Exactly. Pick 19 is the worst playoff team pick now.

It’s called being a fan. Rooting for my team to win. Works for me.

That the attitude I like..I would be surprised if Howie used All three 1st rounders this year, if the all panned out... it it would be expensive ... I could see us trading at least 1 of those picks for future ammunition. At the end of the day making the right choice regardless of position is Still key. I really think Howie picks are improving...This upcoming Draft could take us overe the top with a Defensive talent upgrade.

9 minutes ago, Trini said:

That the attitude I like..I would be surprised if Howie used All three 1st rounders this year, if the all panned out... it it would be expensive ... I could see us trading at least 1 of those picks for future ammunition. At the end of the day making the right choice regardless of position is Still key. I really think Howie picks are improving...This upcoming Draft could take us overe the top with a Defensive talent upgrade.

It wouldn't be expensive for 5 years. That gives the team a long time to see who they want to spend the cash on

12 minutes ago, stine said:

  Another thing to consider is remember where Minshew played last. Jacksonville's O-Line was terrible. Amazing what a Middle of the road QB can do when he has time to go through his progressions!

My thoughts exactly The Stache has never had an OL like he played behind yesterday...He is a veteran that has shown he can raise the level of his game...with this talented OL and he is signed next year...Competition is a good thing.

3 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

It wouldn't be expensive for 5 years. That gives the team a long time to see who they want to spend the cash on

I was thinking strictly....probably UNREALISTICALLY that if ALL 3 picks were keepers...the Cap hit for All would be high..but you are on point for the first five...we would benefit.

8 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Plus traded for The WR for half a season. Avery maybe getting some  traction in that trade deal. A few other small deals haven’t worked for us either. 

Currently the best record teams in the league have the easiest strength of schedule.

So why don't we have the best record? We had the easiest schedule of anyone

8 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Arizona, New England, Green Bay, Tennessee and Tampa Bay….those are the weakest strength of schedules so far.

We are #1 in that category

2 hours ago, stine said:

  Part of that is because they do not have to play themselves....

IDK how AZ has an easy schedule lol

1 hour ago, Trini said:

Hurts doesn't suck...he is Different...it's a good thing for him to watch The Stache run this offense.

He's not different,  he just never graduated from college ball

7 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Idk... depends how you look at it.   Dropping passes for one QB vs the other. One could look at it as no big deal if a WR drops a pass for a QB they don't like.   Hightower was pretty bad, dropped balls from the hero.  Reagor did the same for Hurts.   Idk if one is better than the other at this point.  To say so with any confidence seems foolish. 

Dropping balls is for puberty, not the NFL

1 hour ago, Trini said:

Interesting perspective....I still think we are in the playoff hunt..This OL is if not the best definitely one of the best in the game today...historically this is first Eagle team...1st NFL team to average 185 YPG rushing 6 straight games.... Think about this Without Howard, without Scott and NO Jalen Hurts we still ran for over a185 yds. Tops in the league . The Staches performance yesterday puts him in the mix next year Allbeit his outstanding game was against THE WORST team in the league ... The offense seemed to run smoother...Hurts has a better arm IMO. Though the Stache is a better passer...

I would agree that this Coaching staff has not hesitated in the Next Man Up approach putting in the young guys on the field...I like it... our OL is showing the benefit of fresh blood . Idon't think Howie will allow Reagor to be benched as a #1 pick...whatever the role I expect him to be on the field. I feel the young guys are getting more playing than I have seen from any previous Coaching regime. These young Coaches are playing the young guys.

Jets defense stinks, you or I could have run for 50 yards and I'm 65 with bad feet. It was nice for me to see stache play in a "pass first" offense. See how that opened up the running game?.In a run first offense(aka Hurts) you never open up the passing game, then they clamp down on your running game and you're all done.Now you are forced to pass(errantly in Hurts' case) 

2 hours ago, stine said:

Also consider he threw 2  away on purpose.

Hurts would have forced these into picks. As you said at least Minshew was accurate and SMART for throwing those 2 away rather than force them(ala Jameis Winston/ Jalen Hurts)

1 hour ago, stine said:

  Another thing to consider is remember where Minshew played last. Jacksonville's O-Line was terrible. Amazing what a Middle of the road QB can do when he has time to go through his progressions!

If I had to choose BU QB's ,Stache all the way. IMO Hurts became expendable/tradable yesterday(was never a fan). I still think Howie goes after Pickett. Although we need defense in a bad way I'm just reading between the lines. Lurie wants to "pass the ball more". We can use that 3rd round 1 to move up for Pickett and use the 2nd for Wilson/Olave(WR-OSU). The rest of the draft is defense maybe an O lineman. That scenario fits with what I'm hearing from the FO. Reagor goes into rotation with Quez(or we flat out trade him which would be my preference)) and we have Smith and Wilson as our WR 1/2. Quez is fine but if we want we can select another late round WR if they are a better BU. I'm shocked I got all the way through this post in a logical order before the coffee kicked in 🤣. But I totally see this unfolding. I grab one of those OSU WR's and hold Reagor hostage for a draft pick from a WR needy team since this is a WEAK WR class, his value is the highest NOW(how about the Raiders to replace Ruggs????  😁) This would be my plan and if we took Pickett,Hurts is on the trade block also. Hurts/Reagor for Pickett/Wilson and more picks? OH YEAH!!!!(you heard it here first) BTW for you haters this is a terrific plan(pats self on back)

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Now you would have Pickett, Smith,Wilson/Olave, Quez as your starters, Stache as a BU QB, and whatever picks we could muster from trading Hurts and Reagor. Use for more D,O line depth, maybe another BU WR with promise. Now you are young(even younger with those extra picks) with a cheap BU QB who can still move the offense if needed and NO NEED to spend FA money. I love this plan(but I'm biased) I totally see this unfolding. IDK what we could get for Reagor,but I would hit up the Raiders as a trade partner. Send them Reagor to replace Ruggs. Weak WR class, we can leverage them into a nice additional pick now or a future one. They would be wise to take this trade IMO since it's a very weak WR class and we make out too. This entire scenario would cost our last round 1 pick, but look what you are getting!(Use it to move for Pickett and our 2nd 1 for the WR) and more additional picks-perfect. Send this memo to Howie ASAP

12 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

because we STOPPED signing old men(aka the pipeline I have been hammering on for YEARS). I'm glad we are doing it. it takes time but nice to see us using the draft and not the FA wire

Now we can afford to do that, because we have player development, and not politicians at position coach

 

4 hours ago, Trini said:

Interesting perspective....I still think we are in the playoff hunt..This OL is if not the best definitely one of the best in the game today...historically this is first Eagle team...1st NFL team to average 185 YPG rushing 6 straight games.... Think about this Without Howard, without Scott and NO Jalen Hurts we still ran for over a185 yds. Tops in the league .

Agreed. hoping Kelce can stay, as the left side of the line looks to be formidable for years to come.

3 hours ago, stine said:

people and less time listening to Lurie (which will be hard).

The owner is going to get what he wants unfortunately he controls everyone’s job 

42 minutes ago, matchew88 said:

Now we ca afford to do that, because we have player development, and not politicians at position coach

 

Agreed. hoping Kelce can stay, as the left side of the line looks to be formidable for years to come.

Kelce is older, he's not going to be around for "years to come" please. Dickerson could replace him,I don't think Herbig is the guy for that job either. Mailata looks like a total draft steal

19 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

The owner is going to get what he wants unfortunately he controls everyone’s job 

Why my scenario fits(using logic and knowing Lurie)

9 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Reagor flat out stinks though. I mean we know this. Id probably say Hightower has a greater number of bigger yard plays but I don't know for sure. 

He has more big play drops, that's for sure. 

3 hours ago, Trini said:

I feel the young guys are getting more playing than I have seen from any previous Coaching regime. These young Coaches are playing the young guys.

Who else would we put in?   Other than the regular starters, they are all young?   What choice do the coaches have ?

4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

If I had to choose BU QB's ,Stache all the way. IMO Hurts became expendable/tradable yesterday(was never a fan). I still think Howie goes after Pickett

I agree that Stache would make a great B/Up ... In his Defense those Jacksonville teams his OL and protection sucked.. I expect behind this OL he would be more successful... I want the Best QB leading this team. Shaggy aka  Nick Foles will always be the BEST...GOAT...Eagles backup. We'll see if Hurts learned anything usable watching Stache run this passing game...Guys like Merrill Reese...Gary Cobb ex eagle players that watch Hurts throw live they all say Hurts has the better arm. Few of the Philly beat reporters also say this...I haven't seen Hurts throw up close.but I think he can make all the throws...may the best QB win.

4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

If I had to choose BU QB's ,Stache all the way. IMO Hurts became expendable/tradable yesterday(was never a fan). I still think Howie goes after Pickett

I agree that Stache would make a great B/Up ... In his Defense those Jacksonville teams his OL and protection sucked.. I expect behind this OL he would be more successful... I want the Best QB leading this team. Shaggy aka  Nick Foles will always be the BEST...GOAT...Eagles backup. We'll see if Hurts learned anything usable watching Stache run this passing game...Guys like Merrill Reese...Gary Cobb ex eagle players that watch Hurts throw live they all say Hurts has the better arm. Few of the Philly beat reporters also say this...I haven't seen Hurts throw up close.but I think he can make all the throws...may the best QB win.

3 minutes ago, Trini said:

I agree that Stache would make a great B/Up ... In his Defense those Jacksonville teams his OL and protection sucked.. I expect behind this OL he would be more successful... I want the Best QB leading this team. Shaggy aka  Nick Foles will always be the BEST...GOAT...Eagles backup. We'll see if Hurts learned anything usable watching Stache run this passing game...Guys like Merrill Reese...Gary Cobb ex eagle players that watch Hurts throw live they all say Hurts has the better arm. Few of the Philly beat reporters also say this...I haven't seen Hurts throw up close.but I think he can make all the throws...may the best QB win.

I agree that Stache would make a great B/Up ... In his Defense those Jacksonville teams his OL and protection sucked.. I expect behind this OL he would be more successful... I want the Best QB leading this team. Shaggy aka  Nick Foles will always be the BEST...GOAT...Eagles backup. We'll see if Hurts learned anything usable watching Stache run this passing game...Guys like Merrill Reese...Gary Cobb ex eagle players that watch Hurts throw live they all say Hurts has the better arm. Few of the Philly beat reporters also say this...I haven't seen Hurts throw up close.but I think he can make all the throws...may the best QB win.

Read my scenario and tell me what you think(Hurts is gone, so is Reagor)

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Who else would we put in?   Other than the regular starters, they are all young?   What choice do the coaches have ?

My only thought was Doug, Big Red, maybe all the way back up to Dick Vermeil the stuck wit veterans and held the young guys on the bench developing their roles..Today they are thrown in the fire. It just seems more prevalent with this young Coaching staff today.

24 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Why my scenario fits(using logic and knowing Lurie)

It's why your scenario won't ever happen.   No shot they do not draft a DL with 3 firsts next year.  Especially With the owner liking the current QB.  Maybe we finally get a couple defensive picks in round 1.

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

It's why your scenario won't ever happen.   No shot they do not draft a DL with 3 firsts next year.  Especially With the owner liking the current QB.  Maybe we finally get a couple defensive picks in round 1.

Sure,thats "by the book" My scenario you have all your starters at the skill positions on offense(all young with potential) and pick up extra picks to do what you want to on defense. You are farther ahead doing it my way especially NOW that our picks ar falling down the list. With my scenario it can still be done. But you're right because it makes too much sense lol

2 minutes ago, Trini said:

My only thought was Doug, Big Red, maybe all the way back up to Dick Vermeil the stuck wit veterans and held the young guys on the bench developing their roles..Today they are thrown in the fire. It just seems more prevalent with this young Coaching staff today.

Again.... who else is there?   Which older vets are being benched ?

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Sure,thats "by the book" My scenario you have all your starters at the skill positions on offense(all young with potential) and pick up extra picks to do what you want to on defense. You are farther ahead doing it my way

How do you pick up extra picks?  You just gave away a first to move up?    You are smoking some good stuff if you think you get anything higher than a 6th or 7th for Reagor.  Hurts, if you give up on him, will cause teams to think negative... so probably lowers his value from what could maybe be a 3rd round to probably 5th, maybe a 4th.      

You are better off trading the 1st for extra picks.  You would do much better than what you get for the Jalens