20 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

How do you pick up extra picks?  You just gave away a first to move up?    You are smoking some good stuff if you think you get anything higher than a 6th or 7th for Reagor.  Hurts, if you give up on him, will cause teams to think negative... so probably lowers his value from what could maybe be a 3rd round to probably 5th, maybe a 4th.      

You are better off trading the 1st for extra picks.  You would do much better than what you get for the Jalens

 

I'm trading my 3rd 1 pick(I still have 2 left!!!) for my future QB and getting a TOP WR to pair with Smith. We will do that anyway at some point with QB. Why not do it now when you have 3 round 1 picks? Instead you want to wait until we have ONE round 1 pick,which means to get a QB we would be selling the farm like we did with Wentz. I have no idea what the raiders would give for Reagor. I think it's higher than a 7th, in a very weak WR class they won't have a shot at anyone better, at least not in THIS draft. How do I get extra picks? By trading Hurts and Reagor

Oh well, it's a great plan and why it won't happen,because we have no clue what we are doing. Even monkeys throwing darts at a board will hit sometimes

49 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Especially With the owner liking the current QB. 

Have to wonder what Howie is whispering into Lurie ear though… 

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Have to wonder what Howie is whispering into Lurie ear though… 

I think it was telling he went to see Pickett in person. Of course he's close enough just to hit the game as a fan, but I think there was a reason behind it. I also feel stache made Hurts tradeable after yesterday(which is fine with me)

4 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Have to wonder what Howie is whispering into Lurie ear though… 

Sweet nothings?

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

I think it was telling he went to see Pickett in person. Of course he's close enough just to hit the game as a fan, but I think there was a reason behind it. I also feel stache made Hurts tradeable after yesterday(which is fine with me)

We all know how I feel about Pickett lol but Howell was playing also could have interest in him. Down year for him but will only be 21 come the draft(Howell that is) 

6 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

We all know how I feel about Pickett lol but Howell was playing also could have interest in him. Down year for him but will only be 21 come the draft(Howell that is) 

IDK it was clear to me after yesterday that stache is as functional or better as our BU and with 3 round 1 picks, if we want a QB this is the time to do it. if Lurie is sold on Hurts,god help us all because it will take divine intervention to get a QB later

8 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

IDK it was clear to me after yesterday that stache is as functional or better as our BU and with 3 round 1 picks, if we want a QB this is the time to do it. if Lurie is sold on Hurts,god help us all because it will take divine intervention to get a QB later

I wouldn't Draft any of those QB's next year...I just DON'T see a Franchise guy.I get the attitude....anyone but Hurts. I just want that person to earn their spot. Hurts included.We'll see here the next 4 or 5 games maybe playoffs.

12 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

We all know how I feel about Pickett lol but Howell was playing also could have interest in him. Down year for him but will only be 21 come the draft(Howell that is) 

I don't get too concerned about a college QB having a down year.

Josh Allen returned to Wyoming for his senior year even though his entire O line had graduated and he had a down year.

He's not great but he's done pretty well for himself.

2 minutes ago, Trini said:

I wouldn't Draft any of those QB's next year...I just DON'T see a Franchise guy.I get the anyone but Hurts. I just want that person to earn their spot. Hurts included.

I actually like this QB class Pickett, Coral, Ridder, Howell, Strong…. What I like even more about these QBs think you can have them without reaching or trading up

3 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

I don't get too concerned about a college QB having a down year.

Josh Allen returned to Wyoming for his senior year even though his entire O line had graduated and he had a down year.

He's not great but he's done pretty well for himself.

I like Howell I’m not overreacting on his bad year just stating he is having a down year compared to his previous seasons. 
 

Of course Pickett is my guy think he can be that franchise caliber QB 

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I like Howell I’m not overreacting on his bad year just stating he is having a down year compared to his previous seasons. 
 

Of course Pickett is my guy think he can be that franchise caliber QB 

Breaking Marinos TD record gives him a big plus in my book

4 hours ago, stine said:

  Good post. One thing I disagree with is Hurts arm is not better than Minshew's. They both cannot throw a long ball. Hurts accuracy is much worse. Niether is a starter in this league IMO based by what I saw so far. I think Hurts has better legs and Minshew has the better passing ability. He saw the field and made the throws which we have not seen consistently from Hurts.

80% completion rate is impressive no matter what team you play. Also consider he threw 2  away on purpose...

Mostly all Minshew passing came in his first three drives. The Jets admitted they didn’t prepare for Minshew. Most all his throws were at the line of scrimmage to Goedert and RBs. Goedert had a good bounce back game after disappearing the game before. Think it helps to play two weeks in a row in that same stadium. Pretty weird situation reallyz

47 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Oh well, it's a great plan and why it won't happen,because we have no clue what we are doing. Even monkeys throwing darts at a board will hit sometimes

OK... this is why I want to wait until the season is over to go over this.   Lets see which # the picks are first.   Which teams are picking up at the top... and which QBs we think will be there.   Right  now you are assuming a lot of things.   But I will ask you.... tell me which picks you are using to trade up for a QB, and where are you trading up to, and are you assuming the other team will take the trade, and that the QB will be there?    

Because this sounds to me, like the plan I had as a kid to where I would be dunking a basketball by the time I turned 16 ...and things didn't go according to plan with all the assumptions.  

Like you want your QB.... ok, what does Detroit want to do?   Are picks 12 and 20 enough, if that's what we get?   IDK, lets see first.  You follow.  Because while that scenario seems right to you... I absolutely disagree that any of that will work (not with how it could benefit the Eagles, just that I don't think you get all what you put down from giving up what you want to give up)   Especially Reagor, at the moment I would think he has ZERO trade value, a team could wait for him to get cut.  

17 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I actually like this QB class Pickett, Coral, Ridder, Howell, Strong…. What I like even more about these QBs think you can have them without reaching or trading up

And there you have it.... let one fall if you need to go after a QB.   3 firsts, you can use one and if he busts, then its not as bad.  

8 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Mostly all Minshew passing came in his first three drives. The Jets admitted they didn’t prepare for Minshew. Most all his throws were at the line of scrimmage to Goedert and RBs. Goedert had a good bounce back game after disappearing the game before. Think it helps to play two weeks in a row in that same stadium. Pretty weird situation reallyz

I mean, you really need to prepare for all the exotic stuff Minshew brings to the table .... LOL      i'll translate for you .... we were prepared for the college offense with the running QB, not a normal offense.     Please, it's embarrassing to say a team needs to prepare for Minshew...lol.     But it is very different to prepare for a running QB and the college offense, and then get a normal one when you weren't expecting it.    

As goedert said ... we basically ran the same stuff, except the handoffs were just handoffs, we we weren't reading the DE.      Joe's translation ... " normal football"  

The concern was that without Hurts, the running game would suffer.    I didnt watch the game ... looking at the stats it didn't seem like the running game suffered.  But I did notice in the beginning as I was checking my phone, we scored a couple of TDs without really much impact from the run game at the start.    Now it's the Jets, so I'm not too excited.  But, to me it shows you don't need a running QB to have a good rushing attack, and more important to have the good passer to balance out the offense.  Sometimes the pass can help set up the run instead of it needing to be the other way around.  

Currently our running game is good due to the OL and our blocking TEs.  (I don't think it's coincidence once Ertz left that we run better... and I liked him as an Eagle in his receiving role, just can't block)   it's not the running QB or the elite RBs as we have seen now.    My concern is when Lane and Kelce leave, they will be key guys that we need to replace.   Unless one is soley focused on backing into the playoffs this year and not the future, this is a big concern.   I will say, at least it appears we have a strong left side to build from going forward though.    Dickerson ... was not the need pick so much as BPA.  The pick I liked the most out of this draft, and potentially the one that helps the most.   A few more picks like this and we should have a nice core... just don't get too cute.    

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I mean, you really need to prepare for all the exotic stuff Minshew brings to the table .... LOL      i'll translate for you .... we were prepared for the college offense with the running QB, not a normal offense.     Please, it's embarrassing to say a team needs to prepare for Minshew...lol.     But it is very different to prepare for a running QB and the college offense, and then get a normal one when you weren't expecting it.    

As goedert said ... we basically ran the same stuff, except the handoffs were just handoffs, we we weren't reading the DE.      Joe's translation ... " normal football"  

He didn’t do anything ardor after those first three drives. We ran the ball only to stall out for Field goals the rest of the way. The Jets are the worst D. So yeah they need any prep they can get. Obviously saw Saleh tighten things up on Minshew after his initial hot streak. Think he was 11 for 11 for 182 yards on the first three. Showing he was 9 of 14 for 60 yards the rest of the time. So yep…..seems like the adjustments came to me.

Gotta question if Waddle isn’t better than DeVonta at this point.

52 minutes ago, Trini said:

I wouldn't Draft any of those QB's next year...I just DON'T see a Franchise guy.I get the attitude....anyone but Hurts. I just want that person to earn their spot. Hurts included.We'll see here the next 4 or 5 games maybe playoffs.

2 years in,Stache performed just as well. If you can't play in 2 years being a round 2 selection,you need to go away. Reagor was 1 pick,how long you gonna coddle him too?

12 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Showing he was 9 of 14 for 60 yards the rest of the time. So yep…..seems like the adjustments came to me.

Or or or hear me out we were up and didn’t need to throw… Open 24-18 after half then 27-18 after the first drive of the 3rd qtr. 

49 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I actually like this QB class Pickett, Coral, Ridder, Howell, Strong…. What I like even more about these QBs think you can have them without reaching or trading up

If we wanted one we would have to trade up from where we are IMO. Depends how bad you want them

48 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I like Howell I’m not overreacting on his bad year just stating he is having a down year compared to his previous seasons. 
 

Of course Pickett is my guy think he can be that franchise caliber QB 

Howell was my initial pick. Pickett works for me also

17 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Showing he was 9 of 14 for 60 yards the rest of the time. So yep…..seems like the adjustments came to me.

Also in that first drive of the 3rd qtr. had a 28 yarder to Watkins and a PI for another 21 yards….

42 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Mostly all Minshew passing came in his first three drives. The Jets admitted they didn’t prepare for Minshew. Most all his throws were at the line of scrimmage to Goedert and RBs. Goedert had a good bounce back game after disappearing the game before. Think it helps to play two weeks in a row in that same stadium. Pretty weird situation reallyz

Youi mean they didn't have answer for the passing game LOL.They were planning on stopping the QB run. I could accept their excuse if it was week 1,but by now you plan for every QB on a roster. No excuses,pure BS

39 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

OK... this is why I want to wait until the season is over to go over this.   Lets see which # the picks are first.   Which teams are picking up at the top... and which QBs we think will be there.   Right  now you are assuming a lot of things.   But I will ask you.... tell me which picks you are using to trade up for a QB, and where are you trading up to, and are you assuming the other team will take the trade, and that the QB will be there?    

Because this sounds to me, like the plan I had as a kid to where I would be dunking a basketball by the time I turned 16 ...and things didn't go according to plan with all the assumptions.  

Like you want your QB.... ok, what does Detroit want to do?   Are picks 12 and 20 enough, if that's what we get?   IDK, lets see first.  You follow.  Because while that scenario seems right to you... I absolutely disagree that any of that will work (not with how it could benefit the Eagles, just that I don't think you get all what you put down from giving up what you want to give up)   Especially Reagor, at the moment I would think he has ZERO trade value, a team could wait for him to get cut.  

Fine Joe all i said was it was a PLAN,not a LAW. it's an excellent PLAN if the picks allow. At least I have a PLAN lol. We should be able to use the 3rd round 1 pick to move for a QB if we want one even if the third round 1 pick was pick 32 lol