Rivers in 16 games 4100 yards 24 tds 11 ints 

Wentz in 13 games 2950 yards 22 Tds 5 ints 

Also look at the team they are playing Wentz faced Seattle with a healthy Wilson, Rams, Bucs 

Rivers had the bears, Lions, bengals with a rookie Burrow.

40 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Fact remains we got rid of Wentz,they did not get rid of Arod. They fixed their problems and we just passed the blame around

That is the big picture for sure.

18 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So,Ham,I'll make you a bet that Indy hits the playoffs in '22 and '23 if Wentz stays healthy and they keep the guys they have(they may even do it this year vs a much harder schedule than we had). We got a bet?

LOL yeah he was bizzy off the field HAHA

They made the playoffs last year with one of the best records in the league. Already lost more games this year than last with the retiring guy. Wentz staying healthy is a whole conversation in on itself. Only had two different early injuries this season at least….so far.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Minshew had one of the lowest depth of target mark of anyone week 13

He also threw for 80% completion. That includes 2 throwaways

2 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

He also threw for 80% completion. That includes 2 throwaways

So he was 100 percent on screens to RB and TE

27 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Rivers also had one of the best defenses in football last year they were a top 10 unit while the defense this season has collapsed multiple times already and is middle of the pack…

Oh whooaaa is Wentz…..poor guy stuck with the MVP Running Back. Times are real tough for him over there.

8 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So he was 100 percent on screens to RB and TE

I'll take that all day long

29 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Rivers in 16 games 4100 yards 24 tds 11 ints 

Wentz in 13 games 2950 yards 22 Tds 5 ints 

Also look at the team they are playing Wentz faced Seattle with a healthy Wilson, Rams, Bucs 

Rivers had the bears, Lions, bengals with a rookie Burrow.

It's not the stats...    that's a lazy way to look at it.  Simply watching the games can see all this.

1 minute ago, Asg 15 said:

I'll take that all day long

I will too. Beat the Jets. Just Washington in our way of the playoffs now. I just feel a deep need to not be enamored by the Football Team. Sure, they are on a win streak….but fu69 them! We can take them out. Nothing but good quality everything on the line football from here on out for us. This I’m judging everybody on much more critically. Siri and the rooks don’t get the early pass anymore.

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8 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Oh whooaaa is Wentz…..poor guy stuck with the MVP Running Back. Times are real tough for him over there.

Not really.... but why I think you are kinda wrong here...is that why not have had similar situation here.   It's like for you,  you want a crap situation to keep challenging the QB.   Travis Fulgham was the best WR in 3 years here.    That's the bigger issue. 

Idk, maybe you like setting the bar low?

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I will too. Beat the Jets. Just Washington in our way of the playoffs now. I just feel a deep need to not be enamored by the Football Team. Sure, they are on a win streak….but fu69 them! We can take them out. Nothing but good quality everything on the line football from here on out for us. This I’m judging everybody on much more critically. Siri and the rooks don’t get the early pass anymore.

Only Hurts gets a pass.

19 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

They made the playoffs last year with one of the best records in the league. Already lost more games this year than last with the retiring guy. Wentz staying healthy is a whole conversation in on itself. Only had two different early injuries this season at least….so far.

They were the 7th seed... if not for the rule change, they weren't a playoff team. 

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Not really.... but why I think you are kinda wrong here...is that why not have had similar situation here.   It's like for you,  you want a crap situation to keep challenging the QB.   Travis Fulgham was the best WR in 3 years here.    That's the bigger issue. 

Idk, maybe you like setting the bar low?

Alshon Jeffrey was the best receiver

Just now, joemas6 said:

They were the 7th seed... if not for the rule change, they weren't a playoff team. 

They were tied to win their division. Had like the sixth best record in the entire league.

11-5

And you are all trying to praise Wentz for guiding them to at least one more loss than the season before.

They aren’t doing as well as with the guy that needed to retire …but he’s just doing unfathomably great!

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Alshon Jeffrey was the best receiver

They were tied to win their division. Had like the sixth best record in the entire league.

Nah... look at the stats right?   Lol Fulgham was the best WR, that both Doug and Wentz wanted on the roster, but your boys in the front office put him on PS.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

They aren’t doing as well as with the guy that needed to retire …but he’s just doing unfathomably great!

1289... got a long time to see results.  You won't be getting off the hook.  

46 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Rivers also had one of the best defenses in football last year they were a top 10 unit while the defense this season has collapsed multiple times already and is middle of the pack…

What about the other side also? We were terrible offense last year with Wentz. Now we are going to be a top ten offense this year without him.

Remember when the Eagles were 11-5 in 2009... but really they weren't that good, lost every game to teams they played that had winning records.   Pretty much Indy last year, yet needed the extra wildcard to get in.   Then pretty much sucked on offense vs Buffalo.

Idk if they get in... imo their defense is way over-rated,  they beat up the bad teams but seem to give up 30 on the regular vs good teams

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

What about the other side also? We were terrible offense last year with Wentz. Now we are going to be a top ten offense this year without him.

We were a terrible offense with everyone... that's the bigger issue.

11 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I will too. Beat the Jets. Just Washington in our way of the playoffs now. I just feel a deep need to not be enamored by the Football Team. Sure, they are on a win streak….but fu69 them! We can take them out. Nothing but good quality everything on the line football from here on out for us. This I’m judging everybody on much more critically. Siri and the rooks don’t get the early pass anymore.

Eagles have scored more nad given up fewer points then DC

They just need to play their game and it'll be a win

5 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Nah... look at the stats right?   Lol Fulgham was the best WR, that both Doug and Wentz wanted on the roster, but your boys in the front office put him on PS.

1289... got a long time to see results.  You won't be getting off the hook.  

Just like you aren’t getting off the hook with you saying "all I want is too see Minshew get the legit shot as a starter next year.” Lord, I’m still rolling from that one. Keep crossing your fingers we can make Shew our Franchise!

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Just like you aren’t getting off the hook with you saying "all I want is too see Minshew get the legit shot as a starter next year.” Lord, I’m still rolling from that one. Keep crossing your fingers we can make Shew our Franchise!

Find the quote?   And I will own it.  

32 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So he was 100 percent on screens to RB and TE

How did Hurts do there?

28 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Oh whooaaa is Wentz…..poor guy stuck with the MVP Running Back. Times are real tough for him over there.

You crack me up

20 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I will too. Beat the Jets. Just Washington in our way of the playoffs now. I just feel a deep need to not be enamored by the Football Team. Sure, they are on a win streak….but fu69 them! We can take them out. Nothing but good quality everything on the line football from here on out for us. This I’m judging everybody on much more critically. Siri and the rooks don’t get the early pass anymore.

But Hurts has a lifetime pass HAHAHAHA

3. GARDNER MINSHEW, JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS

49.0% completion percentage, 16.7 yards per attempt, 129.0 Passer Rating

Gardner Minshew has one of the weaker arms in the league, so this is proof that exceptional deep passing is not about arm strength but rather accuracy, timing and anticipation. Minshew led the NFL in passer rating on deep targets a season ago and was one of the league’s best in terms of accuracy, too. He didn’t have a single turnover-worthy play on 49 deep shots as a rookie — that’s impressive.       From PFF based on his play in Jax(now he has a better line), so Ham call PFF and tell them they have no clue

I was researching deep ball NFL passing when I found this