2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Top talent. I need guys that can catch and run proper routes, Reagor is a fail in both areas. What good is a stud QB if your guys can't catch?

Jamar Chase has at least 8 drops this year. Was he worth a 1st?

Not sure we could snag him but Chris Godwin is set to be a FA I’d love to see him paired with Smith and Watkins…. Allen Robinson is another intriguing FA WR 

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2022-free-agent-rankings-free-agency

anyway list of the top FA by PFF 

1 minute ago, Asg 15 said:

Jamar Chase has at least 8 drops this year. Was he worth a 1st?

Sure,look at the stats he puts up. Reagor not even close. No WR catches every ball,but they produce more than they EFF up

3 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Not sure we could snag him but Chris Godwin is set to be a FA I’d love to see him paired with Smith and Watkins…. Allen Robinson is another intriguing FA WR 

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2022-free-agent-rankings-free-agency

anyway list of the top FA by PFF 

No need to pay big money for a WR until we find a QB. TB would be stupid to let him walk

9 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Top talent. I need guys that can catch and run proper routes, Reagor is a fail in both areas. What good is a stud QB if your guys can't catch? And Reagors attitude is "well whatever there is always next week" To hell with that

  You can find Top Wr's in later rounds. Pittsburgh does it every year. WR is always so packed That to spend a 1st rounder this year would piss me off.  Do your scouting and find a solid WR who can do what we need. He may not be blazing fast but he runs good routes and can catch the ball. Cooper Kupp was a 2nd round pick and never drops a ball. That is the type of WR we need. Does not have to ba a round 1 pick IMO

 

 Check that.... 3rd round draft pick!

6 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

Jamar Chase has at least 8 drops this year. Was he worth a 1st?

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/ChasJa00.htm  Is Reagor putting up these numbers?

4 minutes ago, stine said:

  You can find Top Wr's in later rounds. Pittsburgh does it every year. WR is always so packed That to spend a 1st rounder this year would piss me off.  Do your scouting and find a solid WR who can do what we need. He may not be blazing fast but he runs good routes and can catch the ball. Cooper Kupp was a 2nd round pick and never drops a ball. That is the type of WR we need. Does not have to ba a round 1 pick IMO

 

 Check that.... 3rd round draft pick!

WR really falls off after round 2 this year. Why would I spend a pick to replace a mediocre WR with another mediocre one? If I can't improve the position why waste the pick? Reagor is a round 3/4 pick. After Metchie in round 2 they fall off a cliff

Let me put it this way:

Which of the following positions would we most likely find a starter in the 3rd or 4th round.

DE

DT

CB

S

WR

IF your answer is not WR than I give up.....

5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

No need to pay big money for a WR until we find a QB. TB would be stupid to let him walk

No we don’t have to pay for a WR but cap suppose to raise up to like 208m we will have money to spend in FA and can’t fill everything in the draft…. WR is just one of the better FA groups this year and some guys that fit well into our age bracket Godwin is only 25 for example. Michael Gallup could be a cheaper alternative as kinda fallen out of favor in Dallas.

Also some really good S that could be available Bates and Marcus Williams 

So if you go by Stats on;y Smith was not a round 1 pick either. The problem is at QB. Now Hurts a mediocre QB throws to Reagor who can't catch,so now you have 2 issues. Your WR sucks and your QB can't hit a talented player like Smith. To fix those issues you need 2 things a QB and  WR who can catch

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

WR really falls off after round 2 this year. Why would I spend a pick to replace a mediocre WR with another mediocre one? If I can't improve the position why waste the pick? Reagor is a round 3/4 pick. After Metchie in round 2 they fall off a cliff

  Well many said Kupp was not a 1st rounder either..... Yet he out performed every 1st round pick we made to date. Sorry, I do not buy there are only mediocre WR's after round 2. Pittsburgh proves that wrong every year

3 minutes ago, stine said:

Let me put it this way:

Which of the following positions would we most likely find a starter in the 3rd or 4th round.

DE

DT

CB

S

WR

IF your answer is not WR than I give up.....

We start round 4 CB's all the time lol(LB's too) Of those mentioned which position puts the most points up on a scoreboard?

Carlton Davis CB from TB also set to be a FA only 24 turns 25 in December only issue not a great CB FA group so he is likely to be vastly overpaid 

5 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

No we don’t have to pay for a WR but cap suppose to raise up to like 208m we will have money to spend in FA and can’t fill everything in the draft…. WR is just one of the better FA groups this year and some guys that fit well into our age bracket Godwin is only 25 for example. Michael Gallup could be a cheaper alternative as kinda fallen out of favor in Dallas.

Also some really good S that could be available Bates and Marcus Williams 

I would go S,we could use one and still draft one

3 minutes ago, stine said:

  Well many said Kupp was not a 1st rounder either..... Yet he out performed every 1st round pick we made to date. Sorry, I do not buy there are only mediocre WR's after round 2. Pittsburgh proves that wrong every year

LOL because he has a QB we don't. Pittsburg also has a QB,we don;t.(do you see a trend here?). Wentz made Fulgham look like a star

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

We start round 4 CB's all the time lol(LB's too) Of those mentioned which position puts the most points up on a scoreboard?

  That is not the point and you know it. WE have so many needs and WR is not on top of the list. Do your scouting and grab BPA on the Defensive end, unless you are eyeing a QB and he falls to you

If the WR market stays as is for the 2022 FA you got 

Devante Adams, Chris Godwin, Allen Robinson, JuJu, DJ Chark, Mike Williams, AB, Gallup, TY, Kirk, Odell 

Just a loaded FA group 

We have Cap money. Go after Devante Adams!  There, we are now done with WR. Let's move on....

1 minute ago, stine said:

  That is not the point and you know it. WE have so many needs and WR is not on top of the list. Do your scouting and grab BPA on the Defensive end, unless you are eyeing a QB and he falls to you

SO you are fine with Reagor performance? Ok then I can't change that. Fact remains, your offense puts the points on the board and Reagor has a suck attitude to boot and if Smith goes down we have?????

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

If the WR market stays as is for the 2022 FA you got 

Devante Adams, Chris Godwin, Allen Robinson, JuJu, DJ Chark, Mike Williams, AB, Gallup, TY, Kirk, Odell 

Just a loaded FA group 

Who wants to play here for a trash QB?

Just now, stine said:

We have Cap money. Go after Devante Adams!  There, we are now done with WR. Let's move on....

I like Devante but we all know he ain’t coming lol 😂…. Are some young guys available though that we should be able to get at a reasonable price 

1 minute ago, stine said:

We have Cap money. Go after Devante Adams!  There, we are now done with WR. Let's move on....

Go grab some D guys,you will pay less for them

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

SO you are fine with Reagor performance? Ok then I can't change that. Fact remains, your offense puts the points on the board and Reagor has a suck attitude to boot and if Smith goes down we have?????

Who wants to play here for a trash QB?

  We have Smith and Watkins. Draft another in the later rounds or sign a FA. Everyone will play here for the right price. Sorry, Last thing I want to do is draft WR next draft in 1st round

5 minutes ago, stine said:

  That is not the point and you know it. WE have so many needs and WR is not on top of the list. Do your scouting and grab BPA on the Defensive end, unless you are eyeing a QB and he falls to you

If I snag Wilson(or Olave),I am fine hitting the D(unless we want a QB) We have tons of picks,that is no reason to blow off the top offensive players. We could actually use a ROT also because who knows what Lane will do each week

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Who wants to play here for a trash QB?

Plenty of guys especially the younger ones I don’t think we going to land a Devante Adams and likely not Godwin. 

But Juju, Chark, Gallup all be realistic options and are good WRs like I said we can’t fill everything through the draft and right now we have 2 WRs at best even if we drafted Wilson need more 

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Go grab some D guys,you will pay less for them

YES!  But we need 6 players on the Defensive side! We cannot draft that many, so we probably have to sign a couple also

1 minute ago, stine said:

  We have Smith and Watkins. Draft another in the later rounds or sign a FA. Everyone will play here for the right price. Sorry, Last thing I want to do is draft WR next draft in 1st round

So we agree to disagree. I'm taking the BPA,if that is a WR,so be it