Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Start with a playoff victory before you get  all SB happy for the Colts. Just one playoff win. Six years no postseason success isn’t a good look. Who wins a playoff game first? Hurts is clearly on the lesser team…..yet it’s really neck and neck here.

Again... Wentz retires without a SB, he is a failure.    Hurts, gets a 2nd contract without even stepping on the field = a success.     There is no starting with anything, it's the reality of how they will be perceived.  

3 hours ago, joemas6 said:

0 for 4....4 games... that's not one game.    Right now he has to win his first division game.   That's the first step.  As a Stan of his, you should appreciate if he achieves that accomplishment.  That would show some growth. 

Agenda based. That’s you blaming Hurts for us tanking. No grey area on your agenda pumping here.

59 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

GL running against their top LB's. What should you do on those 3rd an 7's??? If you want to beat the pies, you gotta use the TE's and speedy slot receivers (Quez)

You go to Hurts for third downs conversions. He’s one of the best in the league at it. Ranked top five.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Agenda based. That’s you blaming Hurts for us tanking. No grey area on your agenda pumping here.

4 games... not blaming him for any tanking at all.  4 ... how many passes before we shoot.... 4.   How many bases in baseball.... 4    How many presidents on Mt Rushmore ...4.

How many losses vs the division does Hurts have as a starter.... 4.   How many wins ... zero.    The losses do not really mean anything .... the ZERO wins is the issue.   He gets opportunity # 5 now.  To do anything in the league you need to win division games.    Just win 1 and we can go from there.    

 

 

36 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Gotta toss little boop passes over the LB's

I think the RB's would be effective in the receiving game for that reason. 

57 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

LOL he doesn't understand Hurts did not take Wentz's job,he inherited it after we railroaded Wentz out of town

Wentz got benched for Hurts. That’s taking his job. The reason Wentz cried and demanded a trade. He was going to have to win a competition against Hurts for the starting job this season. One guy showed up for the challenge.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Wentz got benched for Hurts. That’s taking his job. The reason Wentz cried and demanded a trade. He was going to have to win a competition against Hurts for the starting job this season. One guy showed up for the challenge.

Dude....What was the the challenge?   3 years they provided a dude that left the field the MVP favorite.... with Travis Fulgham as his best WR?    You mentioned Kupp... who was Kupp working out with before the draft?    Who's GM passed on him?   Then Metcalfe, then Jefferson... then kept Fulgham on the PS.... then forced his coach to go OC by committee    Why is it the organization screwed everyone else over, and yet Wentz has to sit there and be the idiot taking all the punishment playing with the garbage he had.    Hurts took the challenge?    Hurts is grateful to be in the league.... which he won't be for long, and could screw up any trade value at all if he doesn't show a little passing ability.    The run gimmick isn't going to work much longer.  

Dude... you keep digging the hole, pretty much going to have zero credibility.... good thing you are your biggest fan.  

59 minutes ago, EaglesTD123 said:

Parson's has been an absolute beast! So upset we couldn't draw him. Vander Esch is dominant himself when healthy. 

BTW, Watkins and 1 other (?) on covid protocol. 

Trading up with dallas to take Smith only to have them get Parsons is looking like a very tough move to defend. Rosie made many gaffs during the draft. Smith looking ok. Parsons is just killing it. The only thing is Parsons was questioned about his character. Supposedly many had red flags there. That’s why he fell to his draft spot. So even though he’s looking fantastic on the field so far, which wasn’t really ever questioned, he still has plenty of time to self destruct. 

The Eagles have held 7 of their first 12 opponents to 18 or fewer points. Last time that happened was 2009 and last time they held more teams to 18 or fewer points through 12 games was 2004.

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I believe he is already there(17 games @75%=12.75 games) every team has played 13 games

The math doesn’t actually add up like that. Every game doesn't have the exact same number of snaps on one certain side of the ball. Spoiler: both sides of the ball don’t get even amount of snaps each game. It’s actually dependent on what happens in the game.

19 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Wentz got benched for Hurts. That’s taking his job. The reason Wentz cried and demanded a trade. He was going to have to win a competition against Hurts for the starting job this season. One guy showed up for the challenge.

The Wentz writing was already on the wall? You knew he was upset ever since draft day? Are you not understanding this?

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The math doesn’t actually add up like that. Every game doesn't have the exact same number of snaps on one certain side of the ball. Spoiler: both sides of the ball don’t get even amount of snaps each game. It’s actually dependent on what happens in the game.

Suffice to say he has taken 75% of the snaps in EVERY game??? Has another QB started/played significant snaps? Has Wentz been out? So yes the math adds up

29 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

August 28th was the trade, he didn't have camp.   No battle, the battle would be next year.  

Well they still have practices and it's hard for me to believe they can't see a difference,or they think Hurts is a better QB

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Yeah ,that's why Ham's "run the ball" theory isn't real effective Vs Dullaz. Those 2 together when healthy are brutal Our O line is good, but the RB's would never make it to the 2nd level IMO. Gotta toss little boop passes over the LB's

This is where you are missing things. When you run the ball and control more time of possession you help the defense rest and keep their O off the field. Crucial part that was missing in a few of our games vs high power offenses.

26 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You go to Hurts for third downs conversions. He’s one of the best in the league at it. Ranked top five.

They are having a hard time catching this running back because they aren't used to college football anymore. 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

This is where you are missing things. When you run the ball and control more time of possession you help the defense rest and keep their O off the field. Crucial part that was missing in a few of our games vs high power offenses.

Thats why we are 5-7 with Hurts? because we kept them off the field?

33 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Start with a playoff victory before you get  all SB happy for the Colts. Just one playoff win. Six years no postseason success isn’t a good look. Who wins a playoff game first? Hurts is clearly on the lesser team…..yet it’s really neck and neck here.

UM they have played better opponents? They have to because we are NUMBER ONE in the league for easiest schedule

50 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

SOOOOOO, if Hurts sucks next week through 3 quarters and we stick Stache in and he is better, is Hurts done? Would Howie even allow siri to put stache in now???(barring injury) Not that I really want to win any more games,but if we discover stache works with this team what do you do? I posted Shew vs Lawrence stats(first 14 games).If we let Hurts lose this next game without trying shew,I see the media cranking up the spin/ QB controversy threads.For me this game decides(for me at least) if Hurts is even worth keeping. I guess I am not yet understanding how Hurts beat out Shew in camp if the jets game was any indicator. Howie's ego needs to go

Such much that doesn’t make any sense here. We traded for Shew during the season. Never was a camp competition between them. Wentz either(he never showed). Jets game is what I would base everything on also….or not!

30 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You go to Hurts for third downs conversions. He’s one of the best in the league at it. Ranked top five.

LOL Ok RG3,then you go to the mash unit. Just a matter of time

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Such much that doesn’t make any sense here. We traded for Shew during the season. Never was a camp competition between them. Wentz either(he never showed). Jets game is what I would base everything on also….or not!

So who has the better record? Hurts 5-7 Shew 1-0

13 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

The Eagles have held 7 of their first 12 opponents to 18 or fewer points. Last time that happened was 2009 and last time they held more teams to 18 or fewer points through 12 games was 2004.

Ball control offense running the ball and controlling the clock really helps a defense. Always made sense as an approach for this team. That’s how we can control a game. Nobody can stop us from running the ball on them either.

20 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Trading up with dallas to take Smith only to have them get Parsons is looking like a very tough move to defend. Rosie made many gaffs during the draft. Smith looking ok. Parsons is just killing it. The only thing is Parsons was questioned about his character. Supposedly many had red flags there. That’s why he fell to his draft spot. So even though he’s looking fantastic on the field so far, which wasn’t really ever questioned, he still has plenty of time to self destruct. 

Smith is a stud, he needs a QB=no brainer JJ is a stud, Howie passed for the loser we drafted=no brainer Smith/ JJ with a QB who can pass=no brainer

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Ball control offense running the ball and controlling the clock really helps a defense. Always made sense as an approach for this team. That’s how we can control a game. Nobody can stop us from running the ball on them either.

LMAO you are missing the point,the DEFENSE is holding Hurts up

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Nobody can stop us from running the ball on them either.

You mean the trash D lines we have faced pretty much all year?

8 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

The Wentz writing was already on the wall? You knew he was upset ever since draft day? Are you not understanding this?

He was upset when Foles had a shrine in the locker room built for him. He was upset when Foles stole his glory and won this franchise it’s first SB. He was upset when they erected a statue of the OTHER QB outside. So you are just adding another later event. Huge list for Wentz on the upset about things. He cried and demanded a trade over knowing he got benched and lost his job to Hurts. Knowing he’d have to compete for the starting job this offseason. Too much for him. He cried and demanded out. Two teams out of the 31 others that bid on his services. Conditional second round pick won out.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He was upset when Foles had a shrine in the locker room built for him. He was upset when Foles stole his glory and won this franchise it’s first SB. He was upset when they erected a statue of the OTHER QB outside. So you are just adding another later event. Huge list for Wentz on the upset about things. He cried and demanded a trade over knowing he got benched and lost his job to Hurts. Knowing he’d have to compete for the starting job this offseason. Too much for him. He cried and demanded out. Two teams out of the 31 others that bid on his services. Conditional second round pick won out.

BS(COMPLETE BS) Foles and Wentz got along very well.They both understood their roles and Wentz helped Foles alot from the sidelines(watch the games ,yourself)

SO Ham,please educate me,because you are seeing Hurts growth when noone else is. I see a college QB making the same rookie mistakes, bad decisions, bad throws,1 read and run so I am wondering what you see that nobody else does. Hurts has turned this into a college frat house,where everyone is having a great time,but that is not a substitute for NFL growth. A gimmick QB that went from PT to FT is not growth,that's like having 1 janitor who works 4 hours a day, moving to 8 hours a day. That is not growth. He will probably get more done than before,but that doesn't make him a better janitor

6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He was upset when Foles had a shrine in the locker room built for him. He was upset when Foles stole his glory and won this franchise it’s first SB. He was upset when they erected a statue of the OTHER QB outside. So you are just adding another later event. Huge list for Wentz on the upset about things. He cried and demanded a trade over knowing he got benched and lost his job to Hurts. Knowing he’d have to compete for the starting job this offseason. Too much for him. He cried and demanded out. Two teams out of the 31 others that bid on his services. Conditional second round pick won out.

Sorry Brother! I'm pretty sure Wentz and Foles have become GREAT friends. I don't see Wentz as that type of person knowing it was just bad luck (as most football injuries are) that he got his knee bent the way it went.