19 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

LOL Ok RG3,then you go to the mash unit. Just a matter of time

So who has the better record? Hurts 5-7 Shew 1-0

RGKnee was rookie of the year. Huge Mega diva. High pick. Not sure the comparisons with Hurts.

We beat the Jets. Great! Needed that. Oh wait….we had literally always won against the Jets. Oh well….there goes that argument.

11 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He was upset when Foles had a shrine in the locker room built for him. He was upset when Foles stole his glory and won this franchise it’s first SB. He was upset when they erected a statue of the OTHER QB outside. So you are just adding another later event. Huge list for Wentz on the upset about things. He cried and demanded a trade over knowing he got benched and lost his job to Hurts. Knowing he’d have to compete for the starting job this offseason. Too much for him. He cried and demanded out. Two teams out of the 31 others that bid on his services. Conditional second round pick won out.

Nope when they drafted Hurts the seed of dissent was planted. Foles was signed as BU not drafted,so Foles knew his role and Wentz knew his role and why they got Foles. We gave Wentz a crap team, then blamed him and for failure. Usually when you DRAFT a QB high it tells the present QB he is on the way OUT.  Foles was NOT drafted. Wentz knew we needed a BU,but there was no threat of his job being lost.That didn't occur until we DRAFTED Hurts

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

RGKnee was rookie of the year. Huge Mega diva. High pick. Not sure the comparisons with Hurts.

We beat the Jets. Great! Needed that. Oh wait….we had literally always won against the Jets. Oh well….there goes that argument.

He's gonna run one time too many

13 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Ball control offense running the ball and controlling the clock really helps a defense. Always made sense as an approach for this team. That’s how we can control a game. Nobody can stop us from running the ball on them either.

In New Zealand something good happened .....   Ham finds a way to try to spin it to make it seem that it was due to Hurts.     Dude, it's beyond pathetic now.     Did we control the ball vs the Giants... whom we held to 13 points?    Carolina?     

The obvious thing here is that our opponents have been bad.  As GB keeps pointing out... " our schedule has been very easy.  On top of that, the injuries to CMC, Kamara, Thomas, opposing QBs ...etc.    From there, the next thing would be to give the defense a little credit.   They have to keep teams from scoring.   

17 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Smith is a stud, he needs a QB=no brainer JJ is a stud, Howie passed for the loser we drafted=no brainer Smith/ JJ with a QB who can pass=no brainer

LMAO you are missing the point,the DEFENSE is holding Hurts up

Yeah….your argument is the 17th ranked defense is carrying the 10th ranked offense….ughhh …ok….run with that one.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

RGKnee was rookie of the year. Huge Mega diva. High pick. Not sure the comparisons with Hurts.

We beat the Jets. Great! Needed that. Oh wait….we had literally always won against the Jets. Oh well….there goes that argument.

LMAO I have no words. every team just stays the same for 5 years? No changes? The Jets have lost alot of games by 7 or less. They need a few more pieces,they aren't the Jets from 5 years ago

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Yeah….your argument is the 17th ranked defense is carrying the 10th ranked offense….ughhh …ok….run with that one.

We are ranked 10th because we haven't played anyone LMAO,EASIEST in the NFL is not sinking in apparently

Ham you are big on "ranking lists" lol. With the easiest schedule in the league, if we were good we would be 10-3?

We play vs bad D lines, we play good teams with stars and studs OUT, so 10th ranking is crap, we should be #3 at least with this cake schedule, do you think we would beat Atlanta right now? Kamara out for the Saints with their 3rd string QB? yet the accolades flow HAHAHA Jebus

What would impress me is if we outscore Dullaz in the last game(if they have all their players in)

24 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

You mean the trash D lines we have faced pretty much all year?

Number one run defense Saints were. We ran all over them. Like Franks Red Hot…we put that sh17 on everything!

9 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yeah….your argument is the 17th ranked defense is carrying the 10th ranked offense….ughhh …ok….run with that one.

The argument is simply the opponents have been pretty bad.   That's the obvious thing that 99% of football fans see.     

19 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

SO Ham,please educate me,because you are seeing Hurts growth when noone else is. I see a college QB making the same rookie mistakes, bad decisions, bad throws,1 read and run so I am wondering what you see that nobody else does. Hurts has turned this into a college frat house,where everyone is having a great time,but that is not a substitute for NFL growth. A gimmick QB that went from PT to FT is not growth,that's like having 1 janitor who works 4 hours a day, moving to 8 hours a day. That is not growth. He will probably get more done than before,but that doesn't make him a better janitor

I’ll trust you in the janitor growth judgement. Not my area.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Number one run defense Saints were. We ran all over them. Like Franks Red Hot…we put that sh17 on everything!

WHEEE ONE game!!! WHEEEEE

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

I’ll trust you in the janitor growth judgement. Not my area.

Cool because Hurts is that janitor

7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Number one run defense Saints were. We ran all over them. Like Franks Red Hot…we put that sh17 on everything!

https://www.canalstreetchronicles.com/2021/11/21/22794810/new-orleans-saints-philadelphia-eagles-final-score-loss-40-29-jalen-hurts-siemian-recap-nfl-2021   yeah the fumbles and miscues and the fact they had a 3rd string QB in had zero to do with it🙄., So we beat up a badly injured team(like we re in 2020) so hang your hat on that

15 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Nope when they drafted Hurts the seed of dissent was planted. Foles was signed as BU not drafted,so Foles knew his role and Wentz knew his role and why they got Foles. We gave Wentz a crap team, then blamed him and for failure. Usually when you DRAFT a QB high it tells the present QB he is on the way OUT.  Foles was NOT drafted. Wentz knew we needed a BU,but there was no threat of his job being lost.That didn't occur until we DRAFTED Hurts

He's gonna run one time too many

I think you explained your point enough at "Wentz knew we needed a BU, but there was no threat of his job being lost. That didn’t occur until we DRAFTED Hurts”

  The threat arrived and took his job

So where is this 10th ranked offense?

I see #1 rushing ...... # 30 passing    ..... #15 overall.      

OL great ... = good run game.         QB can't pass, = bad passing game.    

Is it not obvious to everyone?  

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I think you explained your point enough at "Wentz knew we needed a BU, but there was no threat of his job being lost. That didn’t occur until we DRAFTED Hurts”

  The threat arrived and took his job

Nope we handed Wentz a crap team,then blamed him for losing and the decision was made to blame him and run him out of town. What better way to do that than to bench him? it was so bad, Howie agreed to PAY to get him OUT-HELLLOOOOO!!!!!! You don't think that decision was made week 12 last year? Hurts inherited the job he didn't take it. The decision was already made or don't you see this?

10 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

The argument is simply the opponents have been pretty bad.   That's the obvious thing that 99% of football fans see.     

Panthers, ATL, Denver and Saints are all middle of the pack NFL teams. Three of which we have a good chance of becoming a playoff team over directly because we beat them. They’d be playoff teams if they won against us. So we had a say in that. We came out on top.

Stine is right though, nothing will change anyones mind Ham, you're going to have to do that yourself, so ride the Hurts glory train. I am done with this.Let's see what happens vs the Wuss

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Panthers, ATL, Denver and Saints are all middle of the pack NFL teams. Three of which we have a good chance of becoming a playoff team over directly because we beat them. They’d be playoff teams if they won against us. So we had a say in that. We came out on top.

NC stinks, they killed me in every fantasy game I started them. Atl D is not middle of the pack either

So here is what we have here.... Hurts ... 16 starts.... 6 wins.    Wentz 13 starts 7 wins.

Eagles have the best run game to work with....  lead the league in rushing.        Indy is # 2.     

Eagles are 30th in passing, one of 4 teams that can't throw the ball 200 yards per game, thats even with great YAC.      Indy is ok at 21st in passing.

Overall scoring Indy is 3rd   .... The Eagles are a respectable 15th. 

If you look at things, the balance that Wentz offers with his passing has made the Indy offense better.   Similar to what we saw with Minshew for one game.   WE also know that Wentz has more input of what play is run, he makes changes and tweaks at the line,   which used to be seen as a good thing until the agenda came out here for some reason against it.   Yet at the same time we can only blame Siri for bad play calling, why can't Hurts change a play?    It is what it is, here we are, one team has a winnign record and battling for playoffs with other good teams, and here we are battling to see who is worse?    The standard has dropped here, it's pretty sad where any fan could be happy to be in this situation.          

Just in case you guys were unaware another team is also in our way of making the playoffs….Washington….beat them….so No Mas and FL can say they suck.

I personally don’t care how we beatWashington….just beat Washington!

9 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Nope we handed Wentz a crap team,then blamed him for losing and the decision was made to blame him and run him out of town. What better way to do that than to bench him? it was so bad, Howie agreed to PAY to get him OUT-HELLLOOOOO!!!!!! You don't think that decision was made week 12 last year? Hurts inherited the job he didn't take it. The decision was already made or don't you see this?

But why is this missed... it's not handing just Wentz a bad team.    it's handing Doug a bad team and making him go OC by committee.   WTF is OC by committee?    Why would any QB in his right mind want to stay here?    LOL.   This is why Hurts fits better with this team.   Some fans like that... my issue is that our team is that bad to where it fits better with Hurts.  Like I said, the best analogy is how the Bears don't fit with Kelly.... we sure do have enough Tanners, Lupuses, miguels, Rudys...etc.  

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I personally don’t care how we beatWashington….just beat Washington!

Isn't Heinke out? Once again we get a break?

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

But why is this missed... it's not handing just Wentz a bad team.    it's handing Doug a bad team and making him go OC by committee.   WTF is OC by committee?    Why would any QB in his right mind want to stay here?    LOL.   This is why Hurts fits better with this team.   Some fans like that... my issue is that our team is that bad to where it fits better with Hurts.  Like I said, the best analogy is how the Bears don't fit with Kelly.... we sure do have enough Tanners, Lupuses, miguels, Rudys...etc.  

Really the point is as long as Howie and Lurie stick their noses into coaching,we aren;t going anywhere. They hire  people to do jobs,then tell them how to do their jobs