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2 hours ago, stine said:

For the Eagles to win...

They have to think outside the box. My idea is to ask for the ball if they win the toss. This way they most likely will get the ball to start.

Now, have scripted plays to start and run a no huddle. Keep the TB D-Line in the game. Do not allow them to substitute. JPP is just coming back from an injury as are others. I would think they would like him to start slowly to get his wind. Don’t let that happen. Control the clock for the first series and hopefully score this first drive.

  If they can do this, they go up 7-0 and no way TB gets up by 2 scores in the first quarter. Just my take. I doubt it will happen, but it is something different. Hopefully they think outside the box on the defense also…

I would rather have the ball to open the 2nd 1/2. We(Siri) are not real good at in game adjustments on the fly. We always do better after the 1/2. If he has a decent game plan and we can keep it within 1 score(or even 10 points) then I would feel alot better about the 2nd 1/2. No tricks to this game either way because we have to EXECUTE. I would hit them with standard fare in the first 1/2, then unleash the Hurts running/play action/RPO game in the second. Try to show them 2 different teams. It's very hard to fool Brady with defensive looks, he's seen them all,but maybe we can dazzle them with BS on offense. If you do it this way THEY would have to adjust in live time on the fly, since in the first 1/2 it's standard fare there are no adjustments to make. In the second, showing them a totally different style offense could be enough to get the W

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7 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I would rather have the ball to open the 2nd 1/2. We(Siri) are not real good at in game adjustments on the fly. We always do better after the 1/2. If he has a decent game plan and we can keep it within 1 score(or even 10 points) then I would feel alot better about the 2nd 1/2. No tricks to this game either way because we have to EXECUTE. I would hit them with standard fare in the first 1/2, then unleash the Hurts running/play action/RPO game in the second. Try to show them 2 different teams. It's very hard to fool Brady with defensive looks, he's seen them all,but maybe we can dazzle them with BS on offense

  Then we will lose. Brady will score a TD with the First Possession. If we fail to do so on our next possession then we will be down 2 scores by the time we get the ball for the 2nd time.

   I understand your reasoning, but this is Brady. We have no hope going conventional this game. It would play right into their hands. Either way we have a slim chance. I just feel we stand a better shot getting the ball first and doing whatever we can to keep those players on the field without substituting. Anyway, I think they will do it your way. Siri has shown no ingenuity to date. He is more a stuff it in your face type.

First 1/2. Hurts can run only to extend the pass play. Second half,let him take off when he sees the chance. Our LB's need to play the best game of the season. With Slay on Evans we should see slot of 2/3 TE sets. I hope our LB's can do this,but it's doubtful. IDK how we plan to get to Brady but it needs done if we want a shot at this. IDK that our LB;s are fast enough for a LB blitz,maybe we can try a safety blitz 

2 minutes ago, stine said:

  Then we will lose. Brady will score a TD with the First Possession. If we fail to do so on our next possession then we will be down 2 scores by the time we get the ball for the 2nd time.

   I understand your reasoning, but this is Brady. We have no hope going conventional this game. It would play right into their hands. Either way we have a slim chance. I just feel we stand a better shot getting the ball first and doing whatever we can to keep those players on the field without substituting. Anyway, I think they will do it your way. Siri has shown no ingenuity to date. He is more a stuff it in your face type.

We have little hope anyway friend. I play standard,then show them a totally different team in the 2nd. it's the best chance we have. If we show them everything and they adjust,nothing changes at the 1/2 because we've already played our hand

2 minutes ago, stine said:

Then we will lose. Brady will score a TD with the First Possession. If we fail to do so on our next possession then we will be down 2 scores by the time we get the ball for the 2nd time.

This can be the case regardless if we get the ball first and fail to move the ball then Brady gets and scores we are down already with TB getting the ball back at the half. So if TB goes into the half with any type of lead plus ball to start could put us in an even bigger hole.

Regardless the game plan will be the same have to get some stops and we have to sustain drives and keep the ball out of Brady hands.

I think I’d go GBFL way just because if we can keep the game close and then get ball to start the 2nd half we could tie the game or even take the lead if the game is close enough. If we are down and TB gets the ball the could put the game away. 

5 minutes ago, stine said:

  Then we will lose. Brady will score a TD with the First Possession. If we fail to do so on our next possession then we will be down 2 scores by the time we get the ball for the 2nd time.

   I understand your reasoning, but this is Brady. We have no hope going conventional this game. It would play right into their hands. Either way we have a slim chance. I just feel we stand a better shot getting the ball first and doing whatever we can to keep those players on the field without substituting. Anyway, I think they will do it your way. Siri has shown no ingenuity to date. He is more a stuff it in your face type.

We lose if we fail to score anyhow,doesn't matter WHEN we fail to score. The rain should actually favor us some with a running QB and thats what I would hit them with in the 2nd

In the rain I really would like to see Ward(good hands) vs Reagor, the drop king. I would also run Smith in the slot some on crosses.if Hurts can hit him in stride(alaJJ) he will get massive YAC's

4 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

This can be the case regardless if we get the ball first and fail to move the ball then Brady gets and scores we are down already with TB getting the ball back at the half. So if TB goes into the half with any type of lead plus ball to start could put us in an even bigger hole.

Regardless the game plan will be the same have to get some stops and we have to sustain drives and keep the ball out of Brady hands.

I think I’d go GBFL way just because if we can keep the game close and then get ball to start the 2nd half we could tie the game or even take the lead if the game is close enough. If we are down and TB gets the ball the could put the game away. 

Yes, I get it. But we already said that we seem to do well at 2nd half adjustments. So why not try something completely new and try to catch TB off guard? Anyway, it was just an idea.

Also, adding to BG's post earlier. TB has given up big chunks when other teams run wide vs up the gut. They perform much better vs other teams running straight ahead. Only fear running wide is Sanders is not the most secure ball handler, especially with a bad hand....

 

20-30 MPH wind prediction will help us also. Kickers will be affected from long range(depends which way the wind s blowing N/S or E/W. In TB that is usually E?W coming off the Gulf(cross wind),so that also favors the running game. Short passes will be the order of the day.Brady can laser them,we just need to match it

2 minutes ago, stine said:

Yes, I get it. But we already said that we seem to do well at 2nd half adjustments. So why not try something completely new and try to catch TB off guard? Anyway, it was just an idea.

Because I want to catch them off guard AFTER the 1/2  when they can't make adjustments so easily. We could actually hurt them if we could go 80% runs in the 2nd with the occaisional pass play. By not showing any Hurts runs in the first,they have no idea how to adjust for Hurts running(they will plan for this from the start so don't show it to them) Just my take

This is a great test for this team win or lose. We will know if we can run with the big dogs,even if the big dog has a little limp 

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Because I want to catch them off guard AFTER the 1/2  when they can't make adjustments so easily. We could actually hurt them if we could go 80% runs in the 2nd with the occaisional pass play. By not showing any Hurts runs in the first,they have no idea how to adjust for Hurts running(they will plan for this from the start so don't show it to them) Just my take

I doubt that catches Arians off guard.... He is too good a coach for that. It would have to be something completely new for us to have any effect.

I hope we select the right spikes in Tampa also lol. Every little things matters for this one

5 minutes ago, stine said:

I doubt that catches Arians off guard.... He is too good a coach for that. It would have to be something completely new for us to have any effect.

Maybe,but they will be playing more in the box to avoid the Hurts run,so pass the ball. In the second they would have to not load the box if we had any passing success in the first (this would be key here),so you should get at least a series or 2 with Hurts running before they can adjust and bring people back into the box. Hopefully we can score on that drive. Hurts is pretty bad at throwing on the run to his left. I imagine they try to force him that way

Seems their CB's are beat up. We may see a secondary as bad as ours LOL. Smith/Quez could have a field day. Sorry, I dont trust Reagor at all. Ward has good hands USE him

9 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Seems their CB's are beat up. We may see a secondary as bad as ours LOL. Smith/Quez could have a field day. Sorry, I dont trust Reagor at all. Ward has good hands USE him

I don't think anybody trusts Reagor. Hell I wouldn't dress him. 

42 minutes ago, stine said:

Yes, I get it. But we already said that we seem to do well at 2nd half adjustments. So why not try something completely new and try to catch TB off guard? Anyway, it was just an idea.

Your goal would be for us to start strong though which we haven’t been able to do… So unless we have some great game plan that will allow to come out strong I’d take my chances in the 2nd half. 
 

On top of all that I don’t trust our passing attack and even less with the weather conditions that suppose to be happening. Let TB have the ball first run and wear them down and hopefully keep it close so that in the 2nd half our ground game can takeover 

38 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Your goal would be for us to start strong though which we haven’t been able to do… So unless we have some great game plan that will allow to come out strong I’d take my chances in the 2nd half. 
 

On top of all that I don’t trust our passing attack and even less with the weather conditions that suppose to be happening. Let TB have the ball first run and wear them down and hopefully keep it close so that in the 2nd half our ground game can takeover 

  I get it. But scripted plays gives the offense a shot getting off to a quick start. We already know e can make the halftime adjustments. Just my $.02

30 minutes ago, stine said:

  I get it. But scripted plays gives the offense a shot getting off to a quick start. We already know e can make the halftime adjustments. Just my $.02

Not a terrible.The whole thing is about execution no matter what plan we have. If we ran our 4 minute drill,could work,but as 93 said we usually DONT come out swinging 

Hey Stine,somehow if we won this, then you have a conflict since we would then head to Lambeau lol

Maybe that is the problem.....

45 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Hey Stine,somehow if we won this, then you have a conflict since we would then head to Lambeau lol

No conflict. I just watch from another room lol

 

No way we beat Green Bay if we get lucky this Sunday. I will still sit in another room, but I have a feeling most of the cheering will be coming from their area.....

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