1 minute ago, jsb235 said:

One note. On the Ertz touchdown, Wentz could have thrown to JJAW. He had beat his man and had a clear line to the back of the end zoen for an easy touchdown, but Wentz waited for Ertz to work open. I just don't think he trusts him yet even though he ran a really good route. Hopefully that will change.

This right here in part is way I’m warming up to the idea of trading Ertz might not be this year but soon. Feel like Wentz leans and looks for Ertz to much doesn’t spread it around like he used to.

Similar to the Saints moving on from Graham 

27 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

This right here in part is way I’m warming up to the idea of trading Ertz might not be this year but soon. Feel like Wentz leans and looks for Ertz to much doesn’t spread it around like he used to.

Oh they absolutely should trade Ertz. It doesn't look like he's going to extend here and this team isn't good enough to contend this year so why keep him? Literally what is the point in keeping him? Trade him whilst there is value to do so. 

16 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Never doubted Barnett needed to step up been saying it also.... Curry an after thought to me. Sweat I’ve hyped on for awhile and he honestly put together a good game one of the few bright spots for the team.

Fact is when you going to your 4th 5th 6th DE how many teams have that great of depth 

And it’s not just DE when your on your 3rd and 4th strong guys how many teams truly have that deep a roster???? 

We agree... I'm not even worried about the backups now... my point is and will be, what's next after Graham/ Curry etc.?   Even cox will be 30 in December.  The DL could go in the toilet very quickly.  

2 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Should the Eagles look to trade Ertz I know sounds crazy.

Minus the fact Ertz wants a new deal and talks seem to have stalled and got heated.

We have Goedart in the wings on top of that moving Ertz could have a similar effect as when the Saints traded Jimmy Graham. The logic was that Peyton wanted Brees to spread the ball around more and not focus as much on Graham. Wentz has a similar issue he focuses a ton of Ertz easily his most targeted player.

Yep, its why I was happy Jordan Matthews left. 

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

We agree... I'm not even worried about the backups now... my point is and will be, what's next after Graham/ Curry etc.?   Even cox will be 30 in December.  The DL could go in the toilet very quickly.  

100% an area we need to address be massive of Hargrave steps up shows why we paid him only 27 and youngster Sweat and Barnett show more. It at least gives the building blocks for our next DL group 

Just now, joemas6 said:

Yep, its why I was happy Jordan Matthews left. 

My point want to in a way force Doug and Wentz to gameplan and focus on the other guys not rely so heavily on just one 

2 hours ago, jsb235 said:

Mailata has the advantage of being a physical freak of nature. I think he's the only legit option at LT right now behind Peters.

I don't know what happened with Pryor. Personally I think we win Sunday if Pryor and Mailata had started. I also think the coaches are being too stubborn in not admitting they were wrong. There is no way Herbig is better than Pryor, and no way that the new guy or Opeta is better as well.

We win if we go into the locker room up 17-0.   Lets not over think the rest.  WE had a lead the majority of the game.  They scored each time from our side of the field.  

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Scott is a scat back,I'm talking about the guy that will get you the first on 3rd and 2 by blasting the D line

WE will pass on 3rd and 2.     WE run on 2nd and 10 or longer.   

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

When you have a suspect O line,its nice to have a guy that can move the pile

You don't move the pile when you make contact in the backfield.  Plus it's mute if your coach refuses to run in obvious running situations.  Again, a lot of stuff we are looking at that really doesn't matter if the coach makes the game simple.  We don't need this or that ... when your defense is the #1 rated defense after week 1  and you give up 27 points... what does that tell you?  Just avoid the turnovers and punt and there was a very good chance we pitch a shutout.  You had a 17 point lead over a team that had 98 yards and zero points, you don;t need to do all these other things on offense any more.  If Wentz knelt it the rest of the game, and we get off good punts...it was probably enough.  Washington was not getting chunk plays, they were going to occupy clock themselves moving the ball.  They would have ran out of time.  Just bad game management.  WE move on to this week... where we play a better team, and we get some better players back.  Now we can worry about expanding the playobbok and what's missing.  Last week was a W that we refused to just let our #1 D take home. 

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

yeah,as Joe says I am old school.I love the flash of the passing game,still there are times you just gotta bash away.Do that early and often and by the 4th quarter,you could put ME in the backfield.I am from Ohio when "3 yards and a cloud of dust" was the mantra. Everyone says RB's aren't that important anymore.Except when you need one lol

JP got paid extra,no need to play now lol

WE just disagree that its the RB that is the key to that.  Any NFL level RB should be able to get you 3 yards ... it;s the OL that matters more IMO.   Barkely is the best RB kin football or omne of them... how did he do Monday?  

Anyway... here is some food for thought....  the drive before Elliot missed the FG.

1st & 10 at PHI 25

• (9:25 - 3rd) C.Clement right end to PHI 32 for 7 yards (J.Bostic).

• 2nd & 3 at PHI 32

  (9:01 - 3rd) (No Huddle, Shotgun) C.Clement right tackle to PHI 36 for 4 yards (M.Ioannidis).

• 1st & 10 at PHI 36

  (8:31 - 3rd) (No Huddle, Shotgun) C.Wentz pass short middle to D.Goedert to WAS 41 for 23 yards (T.Apke).

• 1st & 10 at WSH 41

  (7:53 - 3rd) (No Huddle, Shotgun) C.Wentz pass short left to D.Goedert to WAS 35 for 6 yards (J.Moreland; K.Pierre-Louis).

• 2nd & 4 at WSH 35

  (7:31 - 3rd) (No Huddle) B.Scott right end to WAS 25 for 10 yards (T.Apke).

•  

  (7:21 - 3rd) Timeout #1 by WAS at 07:21.

• 1st & 10 at WSH 25

  (7:21 - 3rd) (Shotgun) C.Wentz pass incomplete deep middle to Z.Ertz.

• 2nd & 10 at WSH 25

  (7:17 - 3rd) B.Scott left end to WAS 22 for 3 yards (J.Moreland).

• 3rd & 7 at WSH 22

  (6:29 - 3rd) (Shotgun) C.Wentz sacked at WAS 35 for -13 yards (sack split by J.Allen and M.Ioannidis)

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Djax planned day off maybe the unfavorable move but I’m ready to get away from all these old heads.

Djax 54% snaps week 1 now a day off... Come on.

Ready for the youth movement. Reagor flashed some think Hightower with game reps and time with Wentz will be fine. Geodart is already a stud in the wings same with Sanders. Ward is a reliable sure handed target 

Day off from WHAT? He had a year off-sad

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Day off from WHAT? He had a year off-sad

Planned rest day so what they said 

4 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Planned rest day so what they said 

Yes,that 1/2 game just wears them out lol. How about getting guys in here that want to work?????? OH NM,my bad

See where the run was working.... they call timeout and Doug has time to think and obviously he goes to old reliable pass.    LOL.    I believe everything else could have happened all the same... if Doug changed 2 plays to runs instead of pass... we will the game.   The one i've been harping on the whole time with 1:40 left in the half... and this one I highlighted above after the Wash TO.     

My feeling about running the football.... it's the left jab ... if they can't block it, you keep at it.  We were running it well on that drive... 1st down in FG range, should have been a run.   2nd and 10 runs I absolutely loathe.    My mindset is that i'm getting 3 or 4 yards on a run play... (I'm not saying its the case all the time, but more so that I need to accept that result)   If I anticipate that result... then 2nd and 6 or 2nd and 7 ... still keeps the option open for running on the next play .... but a 3 , 4 or really even a 6 yard run that sets up 3rd and 4... it's still really a passing situation.  When you have a lead, use the score and the clock to your advantage.  when your QB is getting hit every other pass play... use the idea that you might run as a way to slow down the pass rush.    

I feel this was set up on a tee for Doug and he missed by a mile.  

Yes Wentz made the mistakes... but why put him in the position to do so.   Brees didn;t do much at all they put up 38 points and won.  When the game shapes up to look that way... just take it and move on to next week.  You don't get extra points for winning pretty or running up the score.  Win and keep your players healthy should be the goal, if you can do that with the least amount of risk as possible, just do it.   Everything else negative that followed is all a result of one or 2 key bad play calls IMO.

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Yes,that 1/2 game just wears them out lol. How about getting guys in here that want to work?????? OH NM,my bad

Can’t fault Djax or maybe we can idk if the team told him he has to take off not much he can do... Then again he could have likely just been like nah I’m good let me practice.

I don’t know anymore like I said ready to start the purge go to the youth 

3 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Can’t fault Djax or maybe we can idk if the team told him he has to take off not much he can do... Then again he could have likely just been like nah I’m good let me practice.

I don’t know anymore like I said ready to start the purge go to the youth 

So listening to Ike Reese...   talking about Djax day off and coming out via " load management"     Ike said he doesn't care if practices at all... he needs to be on the the field for as many snaps as he can during the game on Sundays.     Now this was his feeling.    He believes the game plan needed to be more DeSEan and Ertz.  " You see how things are going and do you think these 2 are going to get up and motivate others if they aren't a big part of the game plan?"    Basically he was saying he thinks DeSean was not happy coming out of the game... and Ertz probably wasn't due to not being a bigger part of the game plan.    

ie.  The load management during the game is not what he thinks DeSean wants.  I'm with him.. rest during the week, he needs to be in during the game.  
 

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

ie.  The load management during the game is not what he thinks DeSean wants.  I'm with him.. rest during the week, he needs to be in during the game. 

I’m ok with this if this is what we do but him playing 50% of the snaps and having practices off mmmmm have to draw the line 

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Basically he was saying he thinks DeSean was not happy coming out of the game... and Ertz probably wasn't due to not being a bigger part of the game plan.    

Djax is always a guy that you had to get involved early in a game and not sure why he was out of the game for basically the entire first half made no sense 

6 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I’m ok with this if this is what we do but him playing 50% of the snaps and having practices off mmmmm have to draw the line 

Djax is always a guy that you had to get involved early in a game and not sure why he was out of the game for basically the entire first half made no sense 

Right... this is what I'm getting at.  I don;t really care about practice time off... follow the game plan and he has run routes for 12 years (I really think he is much better at this than he was before) but we need you on the field on Sunday.  If he wanted to be on the field, yet the decision was higher than him... plus a few questionable decisions that a lot of us are thinking on the OL etc.   My issue with some play calling .... IDK, maybe the whole game plan/ game managing, over all philosophy/ higher up decisions are the issue?    Seems like it could be a real mess in there right now.   A good time to keep things simple IMO.  

Now I can never root for them to lose until after they are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs, then I just hope for bad breaks during the games so that we move up in the draft.  A bad bounce a missed kick etc.   But i'm almost thinking it may be better long term if we lose Sunday.  A dose of reality and humility always seems to get the team sparked since the KC game in 2017.  Simplify the game usually helps us a lot.  

I have to admit, this news has me terrified and intrigued at the same time.

 

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

We win if we go into the locker room up 17-0.   Lets not over think the rest.  WE had a lead the majority of the game.  They scored each time from our side of the field.  

Which is why i was pissed thaty Doug kept pressing.

It's great to be agressive but you have to know when to take your foot off the gas sometimes

2 hours ago, jsb235 said:

I have to admit, this news has me terrified and intrigued at the same time.

 

good grief 

7 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Djax planned day off maybe the unfavorable move but I’m ready to get away from all these old heads.

Djax 54% snaps week 1 now a day off... Come on.

Ready for the youth movement. Reagor flashed some think Hightower with game reps and time with Wentz will be fine. Geodart is already a stud in the wings same with Sanders. Ward is a reliable sure handed target 

I'm buying Peedy got to get the young guys playing . Arcerga Whiteside is still invisible. Reagor , Hightower, Watkins, Hurts, Killins need a role off the bench. Pryor started for us last year Mialata is a third year player that monsterous, athletic pair should have solidified our Right side Mailata is gonna end up a starting All Pro on someone else's team because we continue to hold our young players back. Remember that Special Forces captain that we had no use for went on to become All Pro LT in Pittsburg.

2 hours ago, Trini said:

I'm buying Peedy got to get the young guys playing . Arcerga Whiteside is still invisible. Reagor , Hightower, Watkins, Hurts, Killins need a role off the bench. Pryor started for us last year Mialata is a third year player that monsterous, athletic pair should have solidified our Right side Mailata is gonna end up a starting All Pro on someone else's team because we continue to hold our young players back. Remember that Special Forces captain that we had no use for went on to become All Pro LT in Pittsburg.

All the guys you mentioned in the first sentence but Jjaw are rooks.Practice is practice.They all need eased in.They need to learn how they hit harder in the pros.I'm not against them getting some snaps in,but you can't really rely on rooks too much week 1. I think you will see them gain more snaps later. Mailata also has more growing to do.He's never played this sport before.It's like asking you in 2 years to be Bobby Fisher and beat Boris Spasky at chess if you've never played chess before.He seems to be improving slowly.He is along term project unless we are really pressed for roster space.We play a tough team this week(although we haven't lost to them since 2004).We have some experienced guys returning,but face it,it's gonna be a big lift to beat the Rams,especially with no screaming fans in the stands

16 hours ago, jsb235 said:

I have to admit, this news has me terrified and intrigued at the same time.

 

This right here why I was more against paying him more.... Might be nothing but if it is serious(or becomes more serious) then we paid him and still don’t have a LT 

20 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

This right here why I was more against paying him more.... Might be nothing but if it is serious(or becomes more serious) then we paid him and still don’t have a LT 

Personally I am hoping they see what they have in Mailata. His first game was encouraging. He went up against Kerrigan/Sweat in a crucial situation and was never beaten cleanly even though he was playing on his weaker side. The one time he lost leverage, he was still strong enough to keep Kerrigan from getting a free shot.

Obviously if he starts playing regularly teams will start getting tape on him and will be able to exploit his weaknesses, so he has to get better. But if they can ease him in hopefully he will develop into a solid plan B if Dillard doesn't work out.

Driscoll also impressed me in pass blocking. He isn't big enough to move people in the run game, but he easily looked as good as or better in pass protection than Dillard last year. His biggest problem by far was not knowing the scheme, which is clearly related to the lack of an offseason.

I am still somewhat dumbfounded that they didn't start Pryor and Mailata, as Jordan was clearly ready to play and Herbig certainly wasn't better Sunday than Pryor was last year.

This week, I would actually like to see Driscoll at RG against Donald. I think his athleticism give us our best chance against him since his strength is blowing past bigger guards who can't match his quickness. A combination of Seumalo, Kelce and Driscoll should be able to handle the interior rush, and LA lost both of their outside rushers in Matthews and Fowler, and the new guys aren't nearly as good. But who knows what they will actually do.  

3 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

Driscoll also impressed me in pass blocking. He isn't big enough to move people in the run game, but he easily looked as good as or better in pass protection than Dillard last year. His biggest problem by far was not knowing the scheme, which is clearly related to the lack of an offseason.

.... depends what we are talking about in my opinion again I thought Dillard look fine at LT and I don’t really judge him much on his time at RT... He should never have been put over there.

Discoll thought was fine but could tell he was a rookie which was to be expected but think he will get better.