1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Pickett is much better

I have serious doubts. Look at the last three seasons before this. Nothing special. He wasn’t on any of the top analysts lists. Basically a one hit wonder. Same age as Hurts. Hmmmm

45 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Hopefully we could trade Shew to get something close back in return. We gave a sixth. Be nice if we could get a fifth back.

Rather trade Hurts trade him at a peak best value for him will be now might get lucky and be able to get a 2nd back and Minshew gives us better QB play 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I have serious doubts. Look at the last three seasons before this. Nothing special. He wasn’t on any of the top analysts lists. Basically a one hit wonder. Same age as Hurts. Hmmmm

Hurts was SOOOOOO good he had to transfer to play lmao

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I have serious doubts. Look at the last three seasons before this. Nothing special. He wasn’t on any of the top analysts lists. Basically a one hit wonder. Same age as Hurts. Hmmmm

Joe Burrow was nothing special was a 1 year wonder… And he had maybe the best supporting cast. Jefferson, Chase, Mitchell, CEH 

38 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I think there are bunches of ways to win in the NFL. The rules have become very offensive friendly. I still believe a dominant defense can carry a team to a championship. We were a top ten offense. We most likely add some talent to that.

Lol to we were a top ten offense.   Opponents matter.  When we played good ones, we weren't anywhere near a top ten offense. 

2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Rather trade Hurts trade him at a peak best value for him will be now might get lucky and be able to get a 2nd back and Minshew gives us better QB play 

I agree except you are forgetting Howies ego would never allow it

5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Hurts was SOOOOOO good he had to transfer to play lmao

To become Heisman runner up. Good call on his part.

15 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

LMAO game was in hand Im sure they were coasting trying to save the players. Not real tough to understand

Umm... how many points did we score in the 3rd quarter?      The reason I ask...you seem obsessed with 30 minutes?    Why do you give Hurts a pass for the 3rd Quarter?  Why don't you use the better example of the actual amount of time we didn't score a point?   

6 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Lol to we were a top ten offense.   Opponents matter.  When we played good ones, we weren't anywhere near a top ten offense. 

We are the only team that played a team that wasn’t great all season.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We are the only team that played a team that wasn’t great all season.

Well we clearly seen what happened when we played a playoff caliber team. One that was even hampered with injuries 

11 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Rather trade Hurts trade him at a peak best value for him will be now might get lucky and be able to get a 2nd back and Minshew gives us better QB play 

No chance we get a 2nd for Hurts.   But I'll jump on that.   I like Shew here for cheaper salary and if we bring in a late rounder, he offers more to mentor than a run first QB like Hurts does.

Definitely a far cry playing a good QB and offense vs the laundry list of nobodies we faced at QB from what week 12 

But yeah, I think we could really add to the offense. I could do an offense only draft without taking a QB. Bring in Mike Williams. Then we have him and Smith with Goedert. That’s legit receiving threats.

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We are the only team that played a team that wasn’t great all season.

You are clueless... stop licking Hurts balls and wake up

2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Well we clearly seen what happened when we played a playoff caliber team. One that was even hampered with injuries 

Defending SB champs you mean?

Just now, joemas6 said:

No chance we get a 2nd for Hurts.   But I'll jump on that.   I like Shew here for cheaper salary and if we bring in a late rounder, he offers more to mentor than a run first QB like Hurts does.

I’m being optimistic lol let me dream hell steal a 3rd or 4th snag a player that can help us I don’t care. 

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Defending SB champs you mean?

Weren’t you the one talking all week how you really liked our chances lol…. Defending Sb champs who had one of the worst secondaries in the nfl and missing numerous weapons on offense hell even most there starting Rt during the game. 
 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Defending SB champs you mean?

No....he means all the decent teams we played all season long 

Just now, joemas6 said:

You are clueless... stop licking Hurts balls and wake up

You loved Wentz. Paying him 30 mil. Hurts at least can still grow. He has actually fairly easy improvements he can make this offseason. He visits 1.5 million though and had a better season than Wentz. With such a lesser team ….as you have previously described in detail.

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Weren’t you the one talking all week how you really liked our chances lol…. Defending Sb champs who had one of the worst secondaries in the nfl and missing numerous weapons on offense hell even most there starting Rt during the game. 
 

I said we had a punchers chance. Big underdogs. Wanted our rookie coaches to get experience.

Just now, joemas6 said:

No....he means all the decent teams we played all season long 

Always an excuse with ham… Oh well it was early season new coach didn’t gel yet…. Play TB and we are worse against them then our first meeting and we were dreadful the first time 

Being a fan and rooting on my team is one thing. Fighting through all the negativity especially. Season’s over now. Whole different situation to me.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Being a fan and rooting on my team is one thing. Fighting through all the negativity especially. Season’s over now. Whole different situation to me.

Being a fan and being delusional on Hurts are different things…. I’m happy we won games but I’d you can’t see how bad Hurts was and get lost in the fact we beat terrible teams just gives false hopes for when reality comes back around 

We sucked in the playoffs. Everybody. Down to the P shanking everything. Let’s not put this on one guy. Not fair at all. You want to bash him because his wins aren’t against top teams but the loss against the best of teams…is all on him?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

You loved Wentz. Paying him 30 mil. Hurts at least can still grow. He has actually fairly easy improvements he can make this offseason. He visits 1.5 million though and had a better season than Wentz. With such a lesser team ….as you have previously described in detail.

The conversation is about Hurts.   You must everything because you have an agenda.   My issue was the organization going backwards... after a 2nd year QB dominated with decent talent, they went backwards,  and gave him crap.   They should have learned after having McNabb here and how things differed when he had players around him.   Then I don't like this running gimmick QB crap.  They get your boy.  He's not an NFL QB....but they need to go back and be smartest guys in the room.

The idiots think he did good and the team was good because of 9 garbage wins.   We STINK!!!! Hurts STINKS!

I'm good with open competition with our 2 cheap options next year. You want to add a late rounder, fine. Add to the offense, absolutely.    Then when Hurts continues to fail... just admit thos whole idea of getting his gimmick type QB was bad.  1289

2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Being a fan and being delusional on Hurts are different things…. I’m happy we won games but I’d you can’t see how bad Hurts was and get lost in the fact we beat terrible teams just gives false hopes for when reality comes back around 

So you put all blame of Reagor and JJAW on Hurts? What about even Watkins? He’s been very sporadic. Not real consistent on his route running. Not like this team was leaning on J Taylor at RB either.