1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Sounds like pick 16 is up for bidding.

If Kiper is accurate and Pickett goes at 18,then  Howie should pull that trigger at 16? If he isn't costing me squat why not make the move now?

Corner and WR with a trade back seems highly likely at this point.

7 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Corner and WR with a trade back seems highly likely at this point.

There are no "highly likely" Most of us (or I did) had CB and WR picked out early(sorry you late bloomers lol). Howies very first move will give us a better indication,even if it's an off season move. I cannot BELIEVE these FO MORONS can't see the effect a good LB has. I'm sure a defensive staff member will push hard for a LB and Howie will choose otherwise and this is why there is always discord in this organization. Why hire people for their advice, then ignore  their advice? Very stupid and as long as Howie is here(for eternity apparently) we will never have a smooth running group. Howie hires people so when he differs with them, he has a scapegoat. Remember, everything Howie does is to make Howie look good 

14 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I'm totally fine with the other 2 he has for us. Olave/Smith is a nice WR corps( Smith was my initial pick last year and Olave was this year) at WR. Now if you add Pickett without giving up anything,the Offense is DONE(not counting the O line). I know edge is a big need as is CB,but we just need to start getting talent in here-ANY talent

GB...there would be nothing " done"  by just making a few draft picks.  A lot of work still to be done.

So, say you are Howie. At picks 15,16 Pickett is still on the board(if Kiper is right he would go at 18). We know Howie went to see him in person,so what do you do? CB ,Pickett, Olave would not shock me. The question is do we think Pickett if a franchise QB? If so,you gotta pull that trigger. Now Kipers mock is not law,I get that,but what would you do if that unfolded? Or I pick at 15 and hold the 16 pick hostage for a ridiculous amount of draft capital to some desperate team looking at QB. Tough call. You don't want to by pass a potential franchise QB

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

GB...there would be nothing " done"  by just making a few draft picks.  A lot of work still to be done.

Would be a nice WR corps you don't need to worry about for a long time,sounds fairly "done" to me at least for at year or 3. Of course it could be tweaked but that stuff never ends. But now you have 2 gifted WR's with a QB they can grow with

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Would be a nice WR corps you don't need to worry about for a long time,sounds fairly "done" to me at least for at year or 3. Of course it could be tweaked but that stuff never ends. But now you have 2 gifted WR's with a QB they can grow with

Nothing would be done... gotta develop the players, add to the group...etc.   The draft is just a start. 

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Nothing would be done... gotta develop the players, add to the group...etc.   The draft is just a start. 

The SELECTIONS are done,you are talking semantics now. It's obvious they need developed. "Tweaking" would be replacing Jjaw and other pine riders with better BU's

14 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

What I heard from Rosie is we are heading forward. Believe in building a team a certain way and going to stick to the plan.

What else is he going to say we are heading backwards??? Lol.

Yes the Eagles believe in building teams a certain way has been that way since Lurie got here we build inside out…. We highly value the lines. So wouldn’t be all the shocking to see us get that top rated C everyone has mentioned and snag 2-3 hell possibly even 4 DL in this draft 

19 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

King is gettable,I don't see the others breaking free unless we overpay them or they are cap casualties

I asked my wife about King. Quote: He is always hurt. When he is healthy, his play is poor and causes stupid penalties. That is her opinion.... FWIW...

 

 BTW- My wife hates women Announcers! She says they don't know crap and shouldn't be on the field... She is fun to listen to about this stuff lol

10 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

If Kiper is accurate and Pickett goes at 18,then  Howie should pull that trigger at 16? If he isn't costing me squat why not make the move now?

I guess that depends on what the scouts think, no? Not sure drafting a QB just to have one is not the right approach. Especially when there are so many areas of need at most other positions. I think HR should hire Mayock to run the draft. At least he knows who to take and who to stay away from....

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Would be a nice WR corps you don't need to worry about for a long time,sounds fairly "done" to me at least for at year or 3. Of course it could be tweaked but that stuff never ends. But now you have 2 gifted WR's with a QB they can grow with

 I would be shocked if HR took a WR in the first round this year. WE never draft a WR 3 years in a row in the first round. Heck, we never di two years in a row until last season. We drafted JJAW in the 2nd in 2019 also....

   No, Wr is not going to be a round 1 pick. I would bet money on it......

6 minutes ago, stine said:

Mayock to run the draft. At least he knows who to take and who to stay away from....

Mayocks drafts for the raiders were lack luster probably worst then Howies drafting 

15 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Mayocks drafts for the raiders were lack luster probably worst then Howies drafting 

Well, Raiders have 9 starters from last 3 year's draft. How many do we have? Yes Ruggs was a waste as was Reagor and Agholor was for us.  We have 7  if you count both Dickerson and Herbig, even though Brooks was the Starter opening day.  1 defensive starter from the last 3 drafts. Reagor  is a starter but should not be. Hurts is a starter but won't be in 2023..

  No Mayock did OK. Yes he whiffed on some, but not nearly as many as HR did...  He did real well last year. 4 starters and a potential future starter at safety

1 minute ago, stine said:

Well, Raiders have 9 starters from last 3 year's draft. How many do we have? Yes Ruggs was a waste as was Reagor and Agholor was for us.  We have 7  if you count both Dickerson and Herbig, even though Brooks was the Starter opening day.  1 defensive starter from the last 3 drafts. Reagor  is a starter but should not be. Hurts is a starter but won't be in 2023..

  No Mayock did OK. Yes he whiffed on some, but not nearly as many as HR did...  He did real well last year. 4 starters and a potential future starter at safety

How many starters do we have from the last 3 years.

2019 Sanders 

2020-Reagor, Hurts, Driscoll(until he got hurt), Quez, Wallace(started until injury) 

2021- Smith, Dickerson.

So 8 

10 minutes ago, stine said:

Agholor was for us. 

That was Chip Kelly howie was out during that draft 

Mayocks 1st rounders had 6 in 3 years 

Ferell, Abrams and Jacobs- 2019

Rugged and Arnette- 2020

Leatherwood-2021 

2 of those are already gone and one is likely out the door.

3 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Mayocks 1st rounders had 6 in 3 years 

Ferell, Abrams and Jacobs- 2019

Rugged and Arnette- 2020

Leatherwood-2021 

2 of those are already gone and one is likely out the door.

  To be fair, 2019 was his first ever draft. I think he was pulling a Howie that draft. (I am smarter than everyone else attitude) Also, Ruggs was thought of as the best WR at that spot. I do not think anyone here would have been upset had we picked him in 2020 instead of Reagor. But he did pick 4 starters last year. Seems to me he was trending in the right direction.

40 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

How many starters do we have from the last 3 years.

2019 Sanders 

2020-Reagor, Hurts, Driscoll(until he got hurt), Quez, Wallace(started until injury) 

2021- Smith, Dickerson.

So 8 

Reagor and Watkins were starters as we had no one else. Neither should be and won't next year, I hope. Hurts is not a starting Caliber QB. Brooks should have been a starter instead of either Driscoll or Dickerson. Harris, Mcleod and even Epps is better than Wallace IMO...So yes, we have 8 I guess.....

18 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Mayocks 1st rounders had 6 in 3 years 

Ferell, Abrams and Jacobs- 2019

Rugged and Arnette- 2020

Leatherwood-2021 

2 of those are already gone and one is likely out the door.

Abrams is a starting Safety but was hurt. Jacobs is a starting RB and a solid player. Leatherwood is starting a guard. Ferrel is a rotational DE. So who is out the door?

Bottom Line is Howie needs to hit this draft. We have 3 first round picks, all must be starters unless he trades back to grab a 2023 pick. We have so many needs it should not be hard to grab starters IMO...

   Raiders roster is so much better, so drafting 4 starters last year was a very solid job....

9 minutes ago, stine said:

Ferrel is a rotational DE. So who is out the door?

Might have gotten him mistaken with different guy but #4 pick is a rotational end???? That’s success to you????

Ruggs isn’t playing and Arnette the CB is gone.

22 minutes ago, stine said:

Watkins were starters as we had no one else

Quez put up 43 catches for 647 yards with a QB that is a lack luster passer I mean that solid production from a guy that was our #3 most the year 

23 minutes ago, stine said:

Brooks should have been a starter instead of either Driscoll or Dickerson. Harris, Mcleod and even Epps is better than Wallace IMO...So yes, we have 8 I guess.....

Wallace being hurt is why Epps was better Wallace was solid when he was healthy maybe not special… Dickerson was going to end up a starter it was only a matter of time and the fact Driscoll can start and play at a high level is a knock because we had Brooks who if even was healthy is out the door for us???

The pick isn’t bad just because we have someone ahead of the player look I know Howie has bad picks but Mayock wasn’t good either is the point 

3 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Might have gotten him mistaken with different guy but #4 pick is a rotational end???? That’s success to you????

Ruggs isn’t playing and Arnette the CB is gone.

  Drafting Ferrel was a mistake. Drafting Crosby at DE in the 4th was a steal.... Same draft. It was his first as I said.