Some good.

Oline depth is not an issue. Both backups played well. Makes the decision to bench Pryor week one even dumber.

Miles is a serious stud.

Reagor looks good.

The bad.

Wentz. But I think he will be fine.

The linebackers. TJ Edwards had some bad plays, but he was by far our best guy. Gerry and Riley are special teamers. I would be working Bradley into the lineup. LJ Fort had a touchdown today. So that's nice.

Mills is a serious liability. He's too small to play the spot they have him at. Epps? Jesus. Maddox has been bad.

McLeod and Slay are okay. I would bench Robey-Coleman for Strap. I would bench Maddox, put Mills at corner and try Wallace at FS until Parks is back.

Our dline is way too overpaid to be this bad. I think we restructure a lot of guys in the offseason to free up some cash.

I think the offense will be fine. But the defense needs an overhaul.

14 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

Our dline is way too overpaid to be this bad. I think we restructure a lot of guys in the offseason to free up some cash.

I think the offense will be fine. But the defense needs an overhaul.

Been saying this for awhile that our DEs are above avg. at best paying Graham to be a top edge rusher though .... Cox is a stud usually always thought what we paid Malik was odd. Hargrave not making any judgement on yet not after 1 game coming off injury.

 

19 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

Mills is a serious liability. He's too small to play the spot they have him at. Epps? Jesus. Maddox has been bad.

McLeod and Slay are okay. I would bench Robey-Coleman for Strap. I would bench Maddox, put Mills at corner and try Wallace at FS until Parks is back.

Isn’t Mills around the same size as Jenkins????  Only two weeks so far of Mills at S want to give him a bit more time before we make a serious change.

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Isn’t Mills around the same size as Jenkins????  Only two weeks so far of Mills at S want to give him a bit more time before we make a serious change.

He's 15 pounds lighter. And Jenkins was really too small to play that spot, but he made it work.

We handed guys starting spots. Mills, Gerry, Maddox, Riley...none of them did anything to win a starting job and it certainly shows. 

Everyone says Marty Moronweg is an offensive genius.

Where has he ever been successful?

6 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

He's 15 pounds lighter. And Jenkins was really too small to play that spot, but he made it work.

We handed guys starting spots. Mills, Gerry, Maddox, Riley...none of them did anything to win a starting job and it certainly shows. 

He is 10 pounds lighter give or take a pound or 2.... It’s how you use them anyway that matters they aren’t Kam Chancellor that is for sure. 
 

As for the starting jobs not even sure Mills wins the job over Parks if he doesn’t get hurt after that not much else available sucks but happens

As for the rest of them they beat out the guys we had in camp that is for sure can argue our depth of competition was weak but that isn’t there fault that is the teams 

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

It’s how you use them anyway that matters they aren’t Kam Chancellor that is for sure. 

This is also because this is what Schwartz prefers he has stated multiple times A. Likes his S to have a Cb. background and B. That he likes them to be interchangeable.

So not ever really expecting that bigger SS type guy 

9 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

Everyone says Marty Moronweg is an offensive genius.

Where has he ever been successful?

I mean this is Dougs O sure Marty is an advisory role along with like 3-4 other guys not sure why the focus is solely on Marty 

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I mean this is Dougs O sure Marty is an advisory role along with like 3-4 other guys not sure why the focus is solely on Marty 

It's not solely on Marty.

He's just a part of a bigger problem with the O

1 minute ago, Asg 15 said:

It's not solely on Marty.

He's just a part of a bigger problem with the O

From what I’m seeing this problem is Dougs he doesn’t seem to have changed much over the years. Any bad offense I put solely on him this is his O

3 hours ago, jsb235 said:

Some good.

Oline depth is not an issue. Both backups played well. Makes the decision to bench Pryor week one even dumber.

Miles is a serious stud.

Reagor looks good.

The bad.

Wentz. But I think he will be fine.

The linebackers. TJ Edwards had some bad plays, but he was by far our best guy. Gerry and Riley are special teamers. I would be working Bradley into the lineup. LJ Fort had a touchdown today. So that's nice.

Mills is a serious liability. He's too small to play the spot they have him at. Epps? Jesus. Maddox has been bad.

McLeod and Slay are okay. I would bench Robey-Coleman for Strap. I would bench Maddox, put Mills at corner and try Wallace at FS until Parks is back.

Our dline is way too overpaid to be this bad. I think we restructure a lot of guys in the offseason to free up some cash.

I think the offense will be fine. But the defense needs an overhaul.

I don't think the offense is fine at all

Here's my evidence.Despite there being NO FANS in the stands,Wentz and the offense were booed by virtual fans.Now IDK how much worse it gets than that!!!!!!

Dallas winning made the loss that much worse. Wentz needs to play better, PERIOD!

Big observation here ... .watch how the Rams use all kinds of things to mix it up.    Orbit motions, double orbit motions, hand offs to WRs... they actually like to run the ball, they rollout Goff a ton, they mix up tempo ....  All the things that actually make football fun to watch, when an offense mixes things up.      WE run 5 guys in intermediate routes, a lot of crossing patterns without sharp cuts, and drop our mobile QB back in the pocket on short drops.   We don't like to run the ball.   

Game plan and play calling are a snooze fest.  While Ham was calling it how great Doug would be... this is what pretty much the rest of us feared from him.  Very straight forward pass game with a QB as a sitting duck and nothing resembling a top 32 WR on the field.    It's worse now because we like this 2 tight end formation.... without liking to run from this formation or the use of playaction with the QB starting from under center (instead the bogus shotgun mesh point crap) ... this 12 formation is just clogging the field.  Its the same play over and over... Wentz drops short, feet are set to throw, but doesn't pull the trigger, he has to hop around for a second or throw without a clean spot to land and he throws over the middle about 8 to 12 yards down the field.  

2017 offense... we would run when it made sense (except the KC game week 3)   All kinds of motions and fakes, 3 WRS sets to spread the defense out more ... a top speed WR and a top possession WR on the outside.... which allowed Agholor to do what he does best, which is work once he has the ball in his hands and a little space.  One possesion TE with the other guys having versatility to block and move around like a FB.    I like Goedert, like Ertz... they don't mix well with Doug's ideas.  Would work better with the old NE style where plays were designed to have to defend the run first and then the quick pass... our routes aren't quick routes.....    running sideways and looking at the QB is not a route.    The play were Wentz missed that Goedert was open, we need more of that, except again, look at the depth of the QB drop, the timing is off from when he is set to throw and when the teammate gets open.  No rhythm.    In contrast Goff might have the easiest job in football... he gets a running game... space to throw and a few good weapons all around.  A variety of plays that are all over the place, and tempo to help.  

A lot of work to do... this is starting to get like Andy's offense at the end, and Chip's too... very stale.    The defense to me is simple.... Schwartz depends on the dominating DL.   " This guy played ok, or this guys played decent or this guy just played a little above average"     That ain't gonna cut it with this defense.  The DL needs to dominate or we are in trouble.  Doesn't matter if Mills is 8 or 12 pounds heavier or Maddux is 3 inches taller or Gerry is good in man but not zone.    All secondary stuff... Schwartz needs his DL to dominate period.  Tenn, Detroit and Buffalo are all examples of this.  Same with us in 2017.  Anything less... well... results will be less.  Do we want a season where we are fighting for a title, or fighting to be the best team in the worst division and maybe get a playoff win?   To be elite, you need elite players and some creative coaching.  WE don't have that.  The result, the QB and the secondary take the brunt of us " looking bad"   Both the DL and the offensive skill spots are not the same.  And the play calling is stale.  This is the result of that combo.  

This seems to me that the organization is back on the treadmill chasing the bronze medal.  Best thing to happen today was the Dallas win.  The bar needs to be raised from our division a little so we don't seem to get complacent with the thinking " we are still in the division race"  mindset.  I want to be competing with Green Bay, SF and the Saints .. for the heavy weight title, not Dallas for the feather weight belt.  

17 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Big observation here ... .watch how the Rams use all kinds of things to mix it up.    Orbit motions, double orbit motions, hand offs to WRs... they actually like to run the ball, they rollout Goff a ton, they mix up tempo ....  All the things that actually make football fun to watch, when an offense mixes things up.      WE run 5 guys in intermediate routes, a lot of crossing patterns without sharp cuts, and drop our mobile QB back in the pocket on short drops.   We don't like to run the ball.   

Game plan and play calling are a snooze fest.  While Ham was calling it how great Doug would be... this is what pretty much the rest of us feared from him.  Very straight forward pass game with a QB as a sitting duck and nothing resembling a top 32 WR on the field.    It's worse now because we like this 2 tight end formation.... without liking to run from this formation or the use of playaction with the QB starting from under center (instead the bogus shotgun mesh point crap) ... this 12 formation is just clogging the field.  Its the same play over and over... Wentz drops short, feet are set to throw, but doesn't pull the trigger, he has to hop around for a second or throw without a clean spot to land and he throws over the middle about 8 to 12 yards down the field.  

2017 offense... we would run when it made sense (except the KC game week 3)   All kinds of motions and fakes, 3 WRS sets to spread the defense out more ... a top speed WR and a top possession WR on the outside.... which allowed Agholor to do what he does best, which is work once he has the ball in his hands and a little space.  One possesion TE with the other guys having versatility to block and move around like a FB.    I like Goedert, like Ertz... they don't mix well with Doug's ideas.  Would work better with the old NE style where plays were designed to have to defend the run first and then the quick pass... our routes aren't quick routes.....    running sideways and looking at the QB is not a route.    The play were Wentz missed that Goedert was open, we need more of that, except again, look at the depth of the QB drop, the timing is off from when he is set to throw and when the teammate gets open.  No rhythm.    In contrast Goff might have the easiest job in football... he gets a running game... space to throw and a few good weapons all around.  A variety of plays that are all over the place, and tempo to help.  

A lot of work to do... this is starting to get like Andy's offense at the end, and Chip's too... very stale.    The defense to me is simple.... Schwartz depends on the dominating DL.   " This guy played ok, or this guys played decent or this guy just played a little above average"     That ain't gonna cut it with this defense.  The DL needs to dominate or we are in trouble.  Doesn't matter if Mills is 8 or 12 pounds heavier or Maddux is 3 inches taller or Gerry is good in man but not zone.    All secondary stuff... Schwartz needs his DL to dominate period.  Tenn, Detroit and Buffalo are all examples of this.  Same with us in 2017.  Anything less... well... results will be less.  Do we want a season where we are fighting for a title, or fighting to be the best team in the worst division and maybe get a playoff win?   To be elite, you need elite players and some creative coaching.  WE don't have that.  The result, the QB and the secondary take the brunt of us " looking bad"   Both the DL and the offensive skill spots are not the same.  And the play calling is stale.  This is the result of that combo.  

Stale sums it up well,and may I add lifeless.it's a sad day when piped in fan sounds boo our own QB in our own stadium(at least they kept it authentic)

13 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

This seems to me that the organization is back on the treadmill chasing the bronze medal.  Best thing to happen today was the Dallas win.  The bar needs to be raised from our division a little so we don't seem to get complacent with the thinking " we are still in the division race"  mindset.  I want to be competing with Green Bay, SF and the Saints .. for the heavy weight title, not Dallas for the feather weight belt.  

At this rate we won't even be the stool guy.Yep said before we are back to .500.One year of glory. I'm glad we won a SB because I said I couldn't die until we did.So although I can die now,I will go out kicking and screaming

"All we need now is some speed WR's". Nope,we need the fundamental positions. Lurie has to be ripping his hair out

4 hours ago, Senhorcook said:

Dallas winning made the loss that much worse. Wentz needs to play better, PERIOD!

Sadly,that was a classic comeback.We can't beat the no name team(ok we had guys out I will give them a pass although we should have had enough to win it).Today,if we had a team at all,it should have been close.I called the loss,but we didn't play even like a .500 club.I hope we add Freeman,if his price isn't too high,but even if we do,we need a line we don't have on either side of the ball,so they may not even spend the money.We bought the icing,but we don't have the cake

If we lose to cincy,we may as well lose out for a better draft pick,because our schedule after the break is going to be tough sledding even if we played well.I'm done.There is no more to say.We suck and there is no need to harp on it

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

If we lose to cincy,we may as well lose out for a better draft pick,because our schedule after the break is going to be tough sledding even if we played well

If we lose to Cincy then we aren't going to win until like week 6 or 7 which is going to make things very difficult in the city of Philadelphia. Its not going to be a nice place to be I'm pretty sure of that. 

Looking at the snap counts from yesterday:

At linebacker, Gerry played 100%, Riley played 71% and Edwards played 29%. Singleton and Bradley didn't play at all. Mills played 100% at SS, which in our defense is essentially a LB spot.

Here's the problem. Gerry and Bradham were our two primary LBs last year. Gerry is now in Bradham's spot, which he can't play. And Riley is in Gerry's spot, which he can't play. Riley was credited for one tackle. Edwards, playing in half the snaps,, was credited for 5 tackles.

Clearly Edwards should be our primary LB, taking over Bradham's role. I think Singleton is better than Gerry, and Bradley is probably just as good. So one of those guys should be the LB2, as Riley is useless. He was useless in Atlanta, which is why he was cut, and he's useless here.

As far as SS, Mills can't play that spot in our defense. He's too small. I would put Parks in there when he's healthy, or consider trying Taylor, who played it in college, or Wallace, who also played it in college.

Also, Strap only played a few snaps, and Robey-Coleman hasn't been great. So I would consider a switch there.

The bottom line is this. We all saw how bad Washington's offense was yesterday against the Cardinals, and how much better it looked against us. Yes, they started a lot of drives in our territory. But if they hadn't, does anyone really think we could have stopped them?

We may get a fool's gold performance against the Bengals, but that will delay the inevitable. The Eagles know that this is a bad defense, and they should make changes immediately, or else we aren't going to stop any competent offense.

And the changes are obvious. Riley needs to go. Gerry should either go back to his original spot (which he wasn't very good at) or go to the bench (where he belongs.) I wouldn't bench Mills now, but I would when Parks gets back. He's had his chance. Strap should split snaps with NRC.

Those are the changes I would make, as it's clear that if we don't do something, this defense will be bad all year. 

29 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

But if they hadn't, does anyone really think we could have stopped them?

Yes considering they did score when they were in there own territory.... Bit also I agree that our D has been bad. I do disagree on Taylor he was a Lb in college and even if our S spot plays down near the line it’s still a S we ask them to man up with WRs Taylor isn’t doing that most likely at a consistent level. 

31 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

I wouldn't bench Mills now, but I would when Parks gets back. He's had his chance. Strap should split snaps with NRC.

 

It’s been two weeks with no preseason and smal offseason think bigger issue is Schwartz A. He might play favorites a bit B. He doesn’t seem to cater his scheme to fit the talent 

6 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Yes considering they did score when they were in there own territory.... Bit also I agree that our D has been bad. I do disagree on Taylor he was a Lb in college and even if our S spot plays down near the line it’s still a S we ask them to man up with WRs Taylor isn’t doing that most likely at a consistent level. 

Taylor has the speed to cover anybody on the field. He's faster than Mills, Wallace or Parks, by a wide margin. From a physical standpoint, he can do anything they can do, but better.

The problem is that he lacks experience. From my standpoint, there is only one way to solve that problem.