What happens if we have TE at the top of our board for 3 rounds do we take a TE all 3 rounds because they are our highest rated player 

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Stine...  I don't need " day I starter ...with the idea " he starts on day 1 of 2022 because the roster sucks at that position "  

I'm surprised you view it that way as an Eagles fan who over the years have constantly drafted players who have not started day 1. 

Barnett, Dillard, Goedert .. 3 drafts in a row where the 1st guy taken wasn't set to start day 1.   Graham was drafted instead of the stud safety ...which was the huge need and obvious starter day 1.   

How do you miss all this and try to say..." that's how it works "? 

  Joe, you missed my post about Howie? How he sucks at drafts...?

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Barnett, Dillard, Goedert .. 3 drafts in a row where the 1st guy taken wasn't set to start day 1.   Graham was drafted instead of the stud safety ...which was the huge need and obvious starter day 1.   

How do you miss all this and try to say..." that's how it works "? 

Barnett ****llard so-so…. Earl Thomas can definitely make the case had a better career then Graham 

If those are the examples of us taking our best players available maybe we should just focus on need 

1 minute ago, stine said:

Joe, by your logic, the Eagles could possibly draft Wilson, Williams and Olave because you have them ranked highest on the board! WOW We will have the best WR corp in the world, but nothing else!

Of course you have to take it to extreme to make this point...  why not go with the argument " if the punter has a higher grade"  I suppose you would take him first....every year that dumb crap.  By my logic it's simple...without being extremely stupid and repetitive..  when your team needs everything... take the best player.

In your example... we agree we need 1 WR...so I'm taking the 1 WR if he is there.   We agree we need 3 or 4 DBs.   In that case I would draft them all.   I'm not taking 3 OTs...but if best one..one is there, I'll take him.   I'll take 2 LBs... a pass rusher, a stud DT... whatever other than TE if we are talking about any ONE player.

Because we need 3 DBs, I'm not passing on a WR who I like better because I view we only need one. 

I understand the idea of BPA but again that crap just isn’t black and white clear cut as everyone wants to make it out to be. 
 

I think we can all agree that if we have player A highly rated but don’t really need him vs player B just a guy to fill a need we all want player A. 
 

At the same time if we take two CBs in the first round I don’t want to see a 3rd CB in round 2 because we like him slightly better then a DL or a WR 

5 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Barnett ****llard so-so…. Earl Thomas can definitely make the case had a better career then Graham 

If those are the examples of us taking our best players available maybe we should just focus on need 

The examples are how teams draft.  Which Stine was saying its always need.

As for 3 TEs... see my last post of the ridiculous posts people make like this every year ...when you all know what my point is.

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I understand the idea of BPA but again that crap just isn’t black and white clear cut as everyone wants to make it out to be. 
 

I think we can all agree that if we have player A highly rated but don’t really need him vs player B just a guy to fill a need we all want player A. 
 

At the same time if we take two CBs in the first round I don’t want to see a 3rd CB in round 2 because we like him slightly better then a DL or a WR 

Right..  see my post.   Without being extreme... common sense. The other thing " rated" " graded"   you all obsess with that... I'm just looking at a rank. This guy over that guy.  Not 5.1 vs 5.09

At this point... we have all the needs.  You draft one, to where you feel the need is only one deep like WR or OL...then move on.  3 CBs... idk...but I wouldn't hesitate for any combo of 3 S or CB.   I would take 2 LBs for sure... Eagles probably pass on LB though 

7 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I understand the idea of BPA but again that crap just isn’t black and white clear cut as everyone wants to make it out to be. 
 

I think we can all agree that if we have player A highly rated but don’t really need him vs player B just a guy to fill a need we all want player A. 
 

At the same time if we take two CBs in the first round I don’t want to see a 3rd CB in round 2 because we like him slightly better then a DL or a WR 

Which position other than TE..do you view as "  we don't really need "?  Looking past 2022 that is?

19 minutes ago, stine said:

Joe, you need to read up on how NFL Teams set up their Draft Boards. You are arguing based by what you think, even though ALL NFL teams think differently

Stine... instead of reading ...how about we just look at what has happened over the years?

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Which position other than TE..do you view as "  we don't really need "?  Looking past 2022 that is?

Let’s see

OT- Lane isn’t retiring anytime soon most likely dude what 31 probably play another 5 years. Mailata 25, Dillard 25, Driscoll 24 might be missing someone 

OG- Dickerson 23, Semaulo 28, Herbig 24. 
 

TE- Geodart duh 

13 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I'm just looking at a rank.

Graded, rated, rank it’s all the same damn thing you trying to act like it’s different…

 

Just because then#1 rank WR is left doesn’t make him better then the #3 ranked DL 

13 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

WR room could use a QB. Ward is a vet and don't we pay BIG money for coaches to teach them what they don't know?. Rook or vet either you can run routes or you can't. Either you can catch or you can't.Both require a competent QB who can get them the ball when that window opens and make the play(Reagor fails to do this part). While there may be subtle nuances for a WR who has 6,7 years in the books, the fact remains if he fails to do the above he will be looking for work. Smith got 900+ yards as a ROOKIE and we didn't pass for 6 weeks(or run as we watched the Jalen Hurts Show lol). If we had started off strong he would have had over 1,000 easily. Alot of "vets' Didn't make that. Now get some kind of threat OPPOSITE him and he will be fine. I'm not sure JJ or Chase took alot of advice from vets,they did the job they were drafted to do. Ours can do that too

Your dismissing any advantages of having a veteran. Even Smith himself disagrees with you.

I really just want to see you rank us 10 players joe your top 10 guys and tell me how you decided rank 1 was higher then rank 2 and so how.

Since it’s just so easy to decide who is ranked higher 

23 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Of course you have to take it to extreme to make this point...  why not go with the argument " if the punter has a higher grade"  I suppose you would take him first....every year that dumb crap.  By my logic it's simple...without being extremely stupid and repetitive..  when your team needs everything... take the best player.

 

Punt God!!!!

33 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Which position other than TE..do you view as "  we don't really need "?  Looking past 2022 that is?

Stine... instead of reading ...how about we just look at what has happened over the years?

Again, Read my post about how Howie sucks at drafts. You think every team has players ranked 1,2,3,4,5....98,99,100. That if the Eagles are up and they just take the top ranked player. Well you know what? You are right!  You just do not know what they have listed as 1,2,3,4,5,6....98,99,100. I will tell you that players 11-15 may be all the same as potential, but the Eagles, like EVERY Other team, will have 11 as the player which is most sorely needed. He may not be mine or yours, but he is theirs.There will be 32 NFL Draft Boards this April and every one will be different. So you tell me what yours looks like Joe....

   Now, I will also remind you that all of us wanted other players when they drafted last year( first time he drafted a player some people liked) and the two years before. We were right and Howie was wrong. Howie sucks at drafts! Now it is entirely possible Lurie plays a part in this. Will Luire leave them be this year? We can only hope.

24 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Right..  see my post.   Without being extreme... common sense.

 Not being extreme is a good CB crop especially where we pick definitely a possible that the best rank player on the boards at all 3 of our first round picks are CB

2 hours ago, stine said:

Glad you aren't in charge or we would possibly have 9 WR's and no CB's!

Again... absolutely need to go to extreme level to make the point, which is completely wrong.

Raiders signed Jones said deal is around 17m per year 

2 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Let’s see

OT- Lane isn’t retiring anytime soon most likely dude what 31 probably play another 5 years. Mailata 25, Dillard 25, Driscoll 24 might be missing someone 

OG- Dickerson 23, Semaulo 28, Herbig 24. 
 

TE- Geodart duh 

You would pass on a guard because of Herbig and Seamulo?   I wouldn't.  OT, I'm not in a rush to take one, but I absolutely wouldn't pass on one either.  

At this point...  without as we explain to the peanut gallery...we are not taking 10 of the same position or taking the highest " graded guy,which is probably the punter guy"  ...   one of any WR, CB, S, LB, OL or DL works for me.  They all need help.  I'm not passing anything up due to anything on the roster or any mediocre free agent holding a spot for 2022.

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

 Not being extreme is a good CB crop especially where we pick definitely a possible that the best rank player on the boards at all 3 of our first round picks are CB

Right so if you take 2 of them , you don't take a 3rd one, similar to not going TE due to Goedert.  All the other positions do not have all young top level starters.  Anything would help.

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

They all need help.  I'm not passing anything up due to anything on the roster or any mediocre free agent holding a spot for 2022.

Nobody said pass anything but you generic take the highest RANKED(as you like to say) which is the same damn thing as grade or rated however someone want to say it. Leads to the possibility of having the same position rated higher at numerous picks. 
 

There is a very real possibility that 3 CBs should be the highest ranked players for us at 15-19. You have Mcduffie,Sauce, Stingley, Booth. 

5 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Right so if you take 2 of them , you don't take a 3rd one, similar to not going TE due to Goedert.  All the other positions do not have all young top level starters.  Anything would help.

And now you literally saying the same thing me and stine have said from the start. 
 

Just because you see the roster in a different state the us didn’t change the concept what we said about drafting. 
 

Clearly your not taking the highest RANKED player then if you pass on the 3rd CB 

13 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

You would pass on a guard because of Herbig and Seamulo? 

Yes if I had to pick between Semaulo or Herbig starting at G vs Reagor/Ward/JJaw starting at WR. 

If we are sitting at 19 and we have a G ranked at 19 and we have a WR ranked at 20 I’d much rather take the WR 

19 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Nobody said pass anything but you generic take the highest RANKED(as you like to say) which is the same damn thing as grade or rated however someone want to say it. Leads to the possibility of having the same position rated higher at numerous picks. 
 

There is a very real possibility that 3 CBs should be the highest ranked players for us at 15-19. You have Mcduffie,Sauce, Stingley, Booth. 

That's great, we can take 2 of them then.   

16 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

And now you literally saying the same thing me and stine have said from the start. 
 

Just because you see the roster in a different state the us didn’t change the concept what we said about drafting. 
 

Clearly your not taking the highest RANKED player then if you pass on the 3rd CB 

No.. Stine has been opposed to WR....the whole time.  My point we need everything,  I'm not passing up anything because of mediocre free agent signing or anything on the roster.  I've said from the beginning this team needs everything, TE is the only one we are completely set.   

Then you guys started saying  multiple draft picks at each position...  taking to the extreme to try to make it sound Ike I'm stupid enough to say keep drafting the same position.  I've been talking about one pick each time.  Going into the draft I want the best player each time... I'm not passing up a position... obviously if you draft someone at a position,  it doesn't make sense to keep drafting there, at some positions it might make sense for multiple.   That's another conversation.  

My point has been the same and I'll stick by it...I'm not passing up any player that I feel is the top player due to our current roster( other than TE)  that roster changes as we draft though.  I assumed that was common sense and didn't need to be explained?   But on here sometimes you gotta keep reinforcing that 1 +1 =2.