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Cincy, SF, Pitt, Bal are our next 4 games....

Have to beat Cincy not saying it will happen but we need to get on track and this might be the best chance.

SF- might get lucky with them dealing with massive amounts of injuries so even if we beat them won’t mean much

Pitt/Bal- honestly if we can go 1-1 on them I would be thrilled. At least we would beat 1 good team.

Goal has to be to get back to .500 in the next 4 game stretch easier said then done 

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Fletcher Cox has 3.5 sacks and 11 QB hits over his last 21 games. 0 and 0 so far this season. He carries the highest cap number on the Eagles this year at $22.8 million.

He would also be on my trade list if we don’t turn it around and he doesn’t step up 

5 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:
He would also be on my trade list if we don’t turn it around and he doesn’t step up 

I am somewhat hoping that the team can figure out a way to lower the cap hits for Jackson, Cox and Graham for the next few years so that the team can keep them.

For example, we owe Cox $15 million in dead money. If his market value is now $10 million a year, we should be able to restructure him for four more years at a total cost of $55 million ($10 million a year plus the dead money.) That averages to just under $14 million a year, which is reasonable.

We owe Graham $17 million, and his current value is probably $6 million a year (Everson Griffin's number.) So we can sign him to a four-year deal for $41 million (24 + 17) or just over $10 million a year.

Cox and Graham have both been healthy, and should be able to play effectively in limited snaps over the next four years. Restructuring Jackson in the same way would also give us some immediate relief while keeping these guys on the team.

I think our dline is fine, it's just that they are massively overpaid. Restructuring those three players would solve that problem while keeping good players in the fold while we restock the line through the draft.

2 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

think our dline is fine,

That is the problem they are just ok or fine I’m not ok with that 

I always feel like we get complacent with guys even when they are not producing and we are scared to move away from them. If we can rework a Cox or a Graham/Malik keep one of them fine great but keeping all 3 no they are not good enough and they will still cost way to much to have as backups or lesser roles.

Right now Cox isn’t playing at his 22m level he isn’t playing at a 15m level, Malik might be the only guy playing at his value on the DL. Graham has been alright but not worth the money.

Best thing that can happen for this team is Barnett and Sweat stepping up hell Toohill or ostman(if ever given a chance) showing something. 
 

So we can say hey Graham if you want to stick around it’s in a backup role at a massive discount or your gone 

20 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

I am somewhat hoping that the team can figure out a way to lower the cap hits for Jackson, Cox and Graham for the next few years so that the team can keep them.

For example, we owe Cox $15 million in dead money. If his market value is now $10 million a year, we should be able to restructure him for four more years at a total cost of $55 million ($10 million a year plus the dead money.) That averages to just under $14 million a year, which is reasonable.

We owe Graham $17 million, and his current value is probably $6 million a year (Everson Griffin's number.) So we can sign him to a four-year deal for $41 million (24 + 17) or just over $10 million a year.

Cox and Graham have both been healthy, and should be able to play effectively in limited snaps over the next four years. Restructuring Jackson in the same way would also give us some immediate relief while keeping these guys on the team.

I think our dline is fine, it's just that they are massively overpaid. Restructuring those three players would solve that problem while keeping good players in the fold while we restock the line through the draft.

Nope and nope.  Need to get out of the cap situation without pushing more down the road for all these guys that age.  Cox and Wentz would be the biggest ones, no on the other guys. 

12 hours ago, joemas6 said:

I think the fact we rely on that is what hurts us

Yeah,but with no other viable options,it's all we can do

3 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Geodart has flashed quite a bit so has Sanders. Plus if you think this team is 5-11 what’s the point in keeping Ertz lol.

But your absolutely right trade Alshon as well I’m not afraid to make massive changes to this team it needs it because what we have now isn’t working 

Except every time we make a move to "improve" we get worse.I mean we have known JP was gonna go away for what 4-5 years now? Amazing he played as long as he did.So we got ONE LOT in 4-5 years? Thats pretty sad that we pinned our hopes on ONE LOT when we saw the writing on the wall.We do the same at most places and while I am all for top rook draft choices,we can't just count on ONE.We should,have been adding LOT's for 2-3-4 drafts.You could at least find a starter and 2 BU's in that group.Where is the DEFINITIVE starter at C for Kelce? Same situation.We are reactive instead of PRO active and it's killing us

2 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Ummmmmm did you not see the OL that let up zero sacks and no negative runs???? Miles Sanders had 95 yards 4.8 yards a carry a TD Scott also tacked on 4 carries for 19 yards.

OL established the run OL wasn’t the problem they can’t make Doug call runs though or make Wentz take care of the football

SO like I said our whole team O depends on ONE guy,LANE.That's not good enough for me

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

SO like I said our whole team O depends on ONE guy,LANE.That's not good enough for me

Don’t think it was one guy think Lane returning of course helped. But Lane doesn’t help JP on the left who just played better he doesn’t help Kelce who played better as well.

Biggest aid Lane probably had was on the RG but that was to be expect shocker I know.

Semaulo got hurt not sure when though and who replaced him but he played well also

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Cincy, SF, Pitt, Bal are our next 4 games....

Have to beat Cincy not saying it will happen but we need to get on track and this might be the best chance.

SF- might get lucky with them dealing with massive amounts of injuries so even if we beat them won’t mean much

Pitt/Bal- honestly if we can go 1-1 on them I would be thrilled. At least we would beat 1 good team.

Goal has to be to get back to .500 in the next 4 game stretch easier said then done 

Whats sad is,in fantasy I am starting WR's against the Eagles secondary.I will play Deonte from the Squeelers when we play them.Their run D is ok,but we could possibly pull a W out.I dont see us being able to handle Jackson in Baltimore.We always have problems with super mobile QB's

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Don’t think it was one guy think Lane returning of course helped. But Lane doesn’t help JP on the left who just played better he doesn’t help Kelce who played better as well.

Biggest aid Lane probably had was on the RG but that was to be expect shocker I know.

Semaulo got hurt not sure when though and who replaced him but he played well also

Our run game is normally to the right side.Explain then why we didn;t run all over WFT.Who was missing on the right side and how did we suddenly have a run game this week? I rest my case

6 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Except every time we make a move to "improve" we get worse.I mean we have known JP was gonna go away for what 4-5 years now? Amazing he played as long as he did.So we got ONE LOT in 4-5 years? Thats pretty sad that we pinned our hopes on ONE LOT when we saw the writing on the wall.We do the same at most places and while I am all for top rook draft choices,we can't just count on ONE.We should,have been adding LOT's for 2-3-4 drafts.You could at least find a starter and 2 BU's in that group.Where is the DEFINITIVE starter at C for Kelce? Same situation.We are reactive instead of PRO active and it's killing us

I mean honestly we drafted JP replacement in Lane at the start what was that 2012-13 then JP just kept playing and Lane stayed at RT... Then we invested another first rounder in Dillard on top of that had Big V in the wings(who would have been more then serviceable starter I think at LT won a SB with him) JP just kept defying the odds and kept going 

1 hour ago, jsb235 said:

I am somewhat hoping that the team can figure out a way to lower the cap hits for Jackson, Cox and Graham for the next few years so that the team can keep them.

For example, we owe Cox $15 million in dead money. If his market value is now $10 million a year, we should be able to restructure him for four more years at a total cost of $55 million ($10 million a year plus the dead money.) That averages to just under $14 million a year, which is reasonable.

We owe Graham $17 million, and his current value is probably $6 million a year (Everson Griffin's number.) So we can sign him to a four-year deal for $41 million (24 + 17) or just over $10 million a year.

Cox and Graham have both been healthy, and should be able to play effectively in limited snaps over the next four years. Restructuring Jackson in the same way would also give us some immediate relief while keeping these guys on the team.

I think our dline is fine, it's just that they are massively overpaid. Restructuring those three players would solve that problem while keeping good players in the fold while we restock the line through the draft.

We aren't getting pressure and it costs our dsecondary,how is the D line fine?

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Our run game is normally to the right side.Explain then why we didn;t run all over WFT.Who was missing on the right side and how did we suddenly have a run game this week? I rest my case

I mean probably because we had 2 guys who never played a snap before not hard to see that.... Missing are all pro RG and RT

Make it even worse the guys was started weren’t even really getting 1st team reps before the WFT game 

2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I mean probably because we had 2 guys who never played a snap before not hard to see that.... Missing are all pro RG and RT

So why don't we draft them? Since 2017 we had a chance to keep building and starting pipelines and we failed to do it.And while draftees are a crap shoot,we got more crap than shoot,or we can't develop them.maybe both

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Make it even worse the guys was started weren’t even really getting 1st team reps before the WFT game 

Because like I said we fail to draft adequate BU's.Those BU's should be future starters.Getting 10 4th stringers aint gonna get that done

So like I said we "found" a run game because there are 3 guys that make this team work and thats sad.JP,Lane and Sanders.if 2/3 are out we can't function

If you look at how we do LB's and CB's it's fairly clear to me we have started doing the same BS with linemen and thats why we strive for "ok" Thats not how you win another SB

4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So why don't we draft them? Since 2017 we had a chance to keep building and starting pipelines and we failed to do it.And while draftees are a crap shoot,we got more crap than shoot,or we can't develop them.maybe both

You mean like spending a 4th on a rookie T in Driscoll who was overwhelmed in his first start??? Or a 1st on Dillard the year before... Or Big V who become one of our better backups before leaving to get paid??? Or Pryor who actually played well at RG in the Seattle game which was a playoff game last year and also played well from what I heard when he came in vs LA.

 

 

5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So like I said we "found" a run game because there are 3 guys that make this team work and thats sad.JP,Lane and Sanders.if 2/3 are out we can't function

And we found a run game because JP played significantly better as did Kelce... Semaulo and the replaced didn’t make mistakes. Lane helped a ton no doubt and we only really had to protect one spot RG makes it a hell of a lot easier. 

2016- draft Semaulo and Big V both good OL

2017-draft Pryor Mailata(Pryor has a nice start vs Seattle playoffs and seems fine at G)

2019- draft Dillard 

2020- draft Driscoll and Prince Tega who people were talking about being a 1st or 2nd round guy if not for medical red flag 

Over the last 5 drafts we have taken 7 OL not counting UDFAs 

1st rounder, 3rd rounder 4th rounder two 5th rounders and two 7 rounders 

7 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

2016- draft Semaulo and Big V both good OL

2017-draft Pryor Mailata(Pryor has a nice start vs Seattle playoffs and seems fine at G)

2019- draft Dillard 

2020- draft Driscoll and Prince Tega who people were talking about being a 1st or 2nd round guy if not for medical red flag 

Over the last 5 drafts we have taken 7 OL not counting UDFAs 

1st rounder, 3rd rounder 4th rounder two 5th rounders and two 7 rounders 

And who out of those are the long term starters RIGHT NOW? Not "oh maybe in a few years time" Not BU's WHO are starters tomorrow? And if they play WHO are their "adequate BU's?"

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

And who our of those are the long term starters RIGHT NOW? Not "oh maybe in a few years time"

Semaulo Dillard.... Driscoll and Prince to early to tell. Plus have Brooks and Lane Johnson in place neither going anywhere any time soon 

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