23 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Yes...because if you are a fan of Hurts and want to go all in with that style ...Deebo is perfect.    

I don't think better for team success...but if the goal is simply to justify Hurts as a starting QB, a guy who can run, and who can turn a screen pass ( Hurts best throw) into some serious YAC...then Deebo is the guy.

I don't think it will cost that much either in $$$ or in terms of picks... because i don't think he will be seen like that across the league, but at this point I would assume the Eagles would have to outbid a couple bad teams that have more  cap space and better 1st round pick.

Then you are committing to a new Hurts contract for another 4 years(yeah you said "if you are a fan of Hurts"). If Hurts is not my guy(which he will prove or not this year) then it's a wasted investment

15 minutes ago, EaglesTD123 said:

Nnamdi Asomugha

how much did we spend on that dream team only to have them fall flat?

Round 1 choices in my view(assuming we stay put). DT-Davis,Wyatt    Edge- Johnson,Karlaftis,  WR-Olave,Burks  CB-Stingley,Booth,.McDuffie. Any combination works for me

Round 2 picks- Pitre,Brisker-S  Moore,Watson-WR Jones-DT,Gordon-CB

3 hours ago, stine said:

To get Deebo it would cost 25 mil per year contract(minimum) plus you would have o give up a first, 3rd and 4th round picks. Is this team ready to invest over 100 mil on a star player? Are we willing to give up all that draft capital when we need almost every position?

Yes, I think so. Think he moves the meter exactly in the way we need on offense.

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yes, I think so. Think he moves the meter exactly in the way we need on offense.

Meter reader--------------------EXPIRED. ANY DECENT WR will move the meter(including rooks),so why spend that kind of money when we aren't close to being a SB contender??? All that does is what we did this year, destroy your next draft pick spot(so pick in the 20's and you stay at .500 which you love)

11 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Meter reader--------------------EXPIRED. ANY DECENT WR will move the meter(including rooks),so why spend that kind of money when we aren't close to being a SB contender??? All that does is what we did this year, destroy your next draft pick spot(so pick in the 20's and you stay at .500 which you love)

All it does is, along with adding a few other pieces, is get us to winning the division and fourth seed. Playoff home game. Building team. Made the playoffs last year. This year win the division. Maybe even win a home playoff game. 

57 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

All it does is, along with adding a few other pieces, is get us to winning the division and fourth seed. Playoff home game. Building team. Made the playoffs last year. This year win the division. Maybe even win a home playoff game. 

Yep reduces your next draft pick. Planning ahead this would just be a waste of money. Maybe after we find our QB or he hits FA next year,but WAY to expensive at this point 

7 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Yep reduces your next draft pick. Planning ahead this would just be a waste of money. Maybe after we find our QB or he hits FA next year,but WAY to expensive at this point 

Yep winning the division would delay our draft pick. Also winning a playoff game would indeed put us further back in the draft.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yep winning the division would delay our draft pick. Also winning a playoff game would indeed put us further back in the draft.

How many wins will win us the division ?

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yep winning the division would delay our draft pick. Also winning a playoff game would indeed put us further back in the draft.

Welp,I don;t see us spending the money for him.This team is not 1 piece away from a SB,so I would opt for a mediocre season and a better draft position because NEXT year there are QB's of interest and I would hope to set up for that. We added a 1 pick from NO,so that may end up being a higher pick than our regular pick. But really we need 2 high picks if we want a shot at Young in 2023

14 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yes, I think so. Think he moves the meter exactly in the way we need on offense.

Look, First we do not know what it will take to get him. What I posted is what I heard they wanted as a minimum. Second, do we have the OC to utilize his talent? I would say a huge no! Heck I doubt 3/4 of the league would be able to utilize him as SF does. Last, We would be spending a minimum of a 4 year contract of 25Mil per on a player and we have so many holes to compete for a championship. Why? To see what Hurts can do? We need to spend that cash for that? I would rather draft that player(s) than to commit that much capital when this team is so far from where it needs to be. This is a class A dumb move IMO. Lose 2-3 draft picks while spending over 10% of your cap just to see what Hurts can do. Knowing all the while the team has no shot at a title. But hey, It looks nice! We have a shiny new toy....

41 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Welp,I don;t see us spending the money for him.This team is not 1 piece away from a SB,so I would opt for a mediocre season and a better draft position because NEXT year there are QB's of interest and I would hope to set up for that. We added a 1 pick from NO,so that may end up being a higher pick than our regular pick. But really we need 2 high picks if we want a shot at Young in 2023

I don't see SF trading him.  

Metcalfe to me seems like the one out of the 4 who would most likely be traded.    Of Deebo, McClaurin, AJ Brown and Metcalfe ...simply due to Seattle being in obvious rebuild. 

He would be the guy I would want over the others anyway.   My thing would be to try to set up a trade prior to where we move down, get more assets and then use that in a trade if needed.  

I get a kick from "We need to find out if Hurts is the Guy!" posts. How many years did McNabb have a true #1 WR? Anyone? 1...

   So we have a true #1 WR, a Solid TE option and good RB's out of the backfield. Yet we need more to see if Hurts can do his job? Seriously? Why don't we see if he can connect with Smith when he is wide open? How about we see if he can go thru his progressions and get to #2 before giving him more options to NEVER Get to on his reads. Yes, WR needs to be addressed.

   We also need to address the DT/DE/CB/S/LB along with depth at RB and TE. Just grab players that can start at their respective position. I doubt they go after WR just because they need to see if Hurts is the guy or to attract other QB's. Howie is trying to build a team. History tells us the Eagles do this thru the O-Line and D-Line first, then work their way up the middle and then move outside. Going by history WR and CB will most likely be last on the pecking order. Especially when we drafted WR in the first round the past 2 years in a row.

   We don't HAVE TO draft a WR in round 1. Yes, it would finish off that position, leaving many untouched in the process. I keep hearing the WR position drops off a huge amount after the first two rounds. That can be said about every position. At least the WR position is deep this year, unlike the DT or the S positions...

   Well Howie draft a WR?  Your guess is as good as mine. To be honest, it does not matter in the big scheme of things for me. What matters is we address as many positions as possible.

     To do this, they need to be smart. IF a DT or a S is available and is ranked same as the WR, we should go to the position that is thinnest assuming we need both positions. Pretty simple way of looking at things. The Eagles know what other teams are looking at. They are fairly certain who will be available when during the draft. It is not perfect, but they do allot more research then any of us do. So, lets hope that Howie does his job for a change and figure it out. Fill in 3-4 starters this year. Fill in 2 more next along with a couple Free Agents. Then we will have the making of a solid squad. That is my opinion for next week. IT is not a popular one, but I think the correct way to approach the draft.....

 Been really studying this kid today. It's hard for me to buy he is ranked a 3rd round selection. I love the way he fights for the ball when contested and adjusts to underthrown balls(which is Hurts moniker)

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Metcalfe to me seems like the one out of the 4 who would most likely be traded.    Of Deebo, McClaurin, AJ Brown and Metcalfe ...simply due to Seattle being in obvious rebuild. 

He would be the guy I would want over the others anyway.   My thing would be to try to set up a trade prior to where we move down, get more assets and then use that in a trade if needed.  

Gotta still bug Howie that he missed picking him in that draft also.It would do Howies ego good

3 minutes ago, stine said:

Especially when we drafted WR in the first round the past 2 years in a row.

One is a bust LOL. Quez is "adequate" but nothing special. We basically have Smith and that's it. Goedert isnt going to stretch defenses

5 minutes ago, stine said:

I get a kick from "We need to find out if Hurts is the Guy!" posts. How many years did McNabb have a true #1 WR? Anyone? 1...

   So we have a true #1 WR, a Solid TE option and good RB's out of the backfield. Yet we need more to see if Hurts can do his job? Seriously? Why don't we see if he can connect with Smith when he is wide open? How about we see if he can go thru his progressions and get to #2 before giving him more options to NEVER Get to on his reads. Yes, WR needs to be addressed.

   We also need to address the DT/DE/CB/S/LB along with depth at RB and TE. Just grab players that can start at their respective position. I doubt they go after WR just because they need to see if Hurts is the guy or to attract other QB's. Howie is trying to build a team. History tells us the Eagles do this thru the O-Line and D-Line first, then work their way up the middle and then move outside. Going by history WR and CB will most likely be last on the pecking order. Especially when we drafted WR in the first round the past 2 years in a row.

   We don't HAVE TO draft a WR in round 1. Yes, it would finish off that position, leaving many untouched in the process. I keep hearing the WR position drops off a huge amount after the first two rounds. That can be said about every position. At least the WR position is deep this year, unlike the DT or the S positions...

   Well Howie draft a WR?  Your guess is as good as mine. To be honest, it does not matter in the big scheme of things for me. What matters is we address as many positions as possible.

     To do this, they need to be smart. IF a DT or a S is available and is ranked same as the WR, we should go to the position that is thinnest assuming we need both positions. Pretty simple way of looking at things. The Eagles know what other teams are looking at. They are fairly certain who will be available when during the draft. It is not perfect, but they do allot more research then any of us do. So, lets hope that Howie does his job for a change and figure it out. Fill in 3-4 starters this year. Fill in 2 more next along with a couple Free Agents. Then we will have the making of a solid squad. That is my opinion for next week. IT is not a popular one, but I think the correct way to approach the draft.....

I'm looking and finding viable WR options NOT in round 1. Although I want one badly, I would not reach for any of them. When I get a value pick at WR I will take them.That COULD be in round 1,2 or even 3.I know we have talked extensively with Skyy Moore(round 2). IDK if Howie wants more speed outside or a possession type BIG kid. Either works IF you pick the right player. I'm liking this Pierce kid. IDk where he goes,he is ranked as an early 3rd,but I think he is better than that. Although he DID have Ridder throwing to him

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

"We need to find out if Hurts is the Guy!" posts

I would argue that we DO need to find out. last year we didn't play anyone,or they were so beat up the stats were padded. So what do we have with Hurts? I personally do not know based on last year. perhaps he can show me something this year. I agree he needs to show me more than 1 read,that is essential to me. At this point coming up on a contract year, he needs t prove why he should stay here. He managed 900 yards to Smith with no real threat opposite him and I think that is needed. Quez is OK,still if we find someone better he is replaceable IMO

This is a super good draft for RB value picks. Guys like White or Strong could fall into round 5. Either is better than Huntley,so if those guys are there I would have NP taking one with a 5 pick

20 minutes ago, stine said:

I get a kick from "We need to find out if Hurts is the Guy!" posts. How many years did McNabb have a true #1 WR? Anyone? 1...

   So we have a true #1 WR, a Solid TE option and good RB's out of the backfield. Yet we need more to see if Hurts can do his job? Seriously? Why don't we see if he can connect with Smith when he is wide open? How about we see if he can go thru his progressions and get to #2 before giving him more options to NEVER Get to on his reads. Yes, WR needs to be addressed.

   We also need to address the DT/DE/CB/S/LB along with depth at RB and TE. Just grab players that can start at their respective position. I doubt they go after WR just because they need to see if Hurts is the guy or to attract other QB's. Howie is trying to build a team. History tells us the Eagles do this thru the O-Line and D-Line first, then work their way up the middle and then move outside. Going by history WR and CB will most likely be last on the pecking order. Especially when we drafted WR in the first round the past 2 years in a row.

   We don't HAVE TO draft a WR in round 1. Yes, it would finish off that position, leaving many untouched in the process. I keep hearing the WR position drops off a huge amount after the first two rounds. That can be said about every position. At least the WR position is deep this year, unlike the DT or the S positions...

   Well Howie draft a WR?  Your guess is as good as mine. To be honest, it does not matter in the big scheme of things for me. What matters is we address as many positions as possible.

     To do this, they need to be smart. IF a DT or a S is available and is ranked same as the WR, we should go to the position that is thinnest assuming we need both positions. Pretty simple way of looking at things. The Eagles know what other teams are looking at. They are fairly certain who will be available when during the draft. It is not perfect, but they do allot more research then any of us do. So, lets hope that Howie does his job for a change and figure it out. Fill in 3-4 starters this year. Fill in 2 more next along with a couple Free Agents. Then we will have the making of a solid squad. That is my opinion for next week. IT is not a popular one, but I think the correct way to approach the draft.....

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/750638-philadelphia-eagles-top-10-receiving-targets-of-donovan-mcnabb-era   Not a terrible list although they include RB's and TE's

16 minutes ago, stine said:

 Howie is trying to build a team. History tells us the Eagles do this thru the O-Line and D-Line first, then work their way up the middle and then move outside. Going by history WR and CB will most likely be last.

   . . IT is not a popular one, but I think the correct way to approach the draft.....

1. Hurts, I think he gets the extra year this year by default, but I think they pretty much know he isn't the guy.

2.  Howie does need to build a team, not just one position.  

3. WR and CB are the other positions they draft after QB and the lines ...absolutely not last on their list.

4. I think your opinion is absolutely the popular one,people understand that this will take time, there are a lot of needs and the whole team needs to get built.   

21 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/750638-philadelphia-eagles-top-10-receiving-targets-of-donovan-mcnabb-era   Not a terrible list although they include RB's and TE's

 Maclin had 1 year with McNabb. DJAX had McNabb's last two years with the Eagles. I hardly call that support. Having  WR support as your ending your career helps little.

Pinkston? Seriously? So other than Owens for 1 year he had no WR until his career was almost over.

 

35 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I would argue that we DO need to find out. last year we didn't play anyone,or they were so beat up the stats were padded. So what do we have with Hurts? I personally do not know based on last year. perhaps he can show me something this year. I agree he needs to show me more than 1 read,that is essential to me. At this point coming up on a contract year, he needs t prove why he should stay here. He managed 900 yards to Smith with no real threat opposite him and I think that is needed. Quez is OK,still if we find someone better he is replaceable IMO

  Again, useless if he never gets to his second read! He can prove he belongs regardless who is on the team. Why should he be different than any other QB in the NFL?

3 hours ago, joemas6 said:

How many wins will win us the division ?

More wins than D, Wash. or Jersey will do it.