7 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I’d give Holyfield a chance before I went to a FA 

He's ok if pressed into service,but he needs more experience.There are 2 we could get fairly cheaply.Lamar Miller or Isiah Crowell.The Colts are looking at Miller due to the loss of Mack.We need to stash one now BEFORE we possibly lose one

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

needs more experience.

Can only get experience by playing. Plus bigger back and was one of the better pass protectors in college at RB 

neither is going t just step right in.Will take a few games to adjust,but they know the NFL experience.Holyfield is a pup(and a UDFA at that)

Also was killing it in camp I mean doesn’t mean a ton it’s practice and camp but should at least be given a fair shake. I don’t know guess I’m just tired of stashing all these guys for no reason. At some point you have to give these guys a chance to see if they are worth keeping around 

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Can only get experience by playing. Plus bigger back and was one of the better pass protectors in college at RB 

Garbage time,that's what garbage time is for.You can play him if we were rebuilding(maybe we should rebuild).but it's only week 3 and we need THREE RB's we can count on

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Also was killing it in camp I mean doesn’t mean a ton it’s practice and camp but should at least be given a fair shake. I don’t know guess I’m just tired of stashing all these guys for no reason. At some point you have to give these guys a chance to see if they are worth keeping around 

well we cut him before and noone picked him up,so that should be an indicator

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Holyfield is a pup(and a UDFA at that)

He is in his 2nd year though not like he was a rook 

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

well we cut him before and noone picked him up,so that should be an indicator

Not at all not like he was playing in preseason games who was going to see him???? Had the smallest number of waiver pickups think was like 17 total at the final cut dates.... Average in a normal year was over 40 

3 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

He is in his 2nd year though not like he was a rook 

Yeah,but if he was that good he'd be playing and he isn't.I would just like the security of having 3 RB's with experience that we know can put stats up and maybe Holyfield will grow into that role,but I want to win games now,not in week 10

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Yeah,but if he was that good he'd be playing and he isn't.I would just like the security of having 3 RB's with experience that we know an put stats up and maybe Holyfield will grow into that role,but I want to win games now,not in week 10

You mean like Mosert who we cut coupel year back lol or Greg Ward that we never gave a chance until massive string of injuries....

If Sanders gets hurt I would rather have a backfield with Scott and Miller than I would with Scott and Holyfield

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

You mean like Mosert who we cut coupel year back lol or Greg Ward that we never gave a chance until massive string of injuries....

We lose alot of players that make it on other teams,and keep the guys noone else wants

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

If Sanders gets hurt I would rather have a backfield with Scott and Miller than I would with Scott and Holyfield

I’d rather see Holyfield play now(get couple reps see what he can do)while there is no injuries before we signed some guy off the street they are still FAs for a reason. 
 

But we have 4 RBs on roster now don’t see us signing or bringing anyone up 

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

If Sanders gets hurt I would rather have a backfield with Scott and Miller than I would with Scott and Holyfield

We lose alot of players that make it on other teams,and keep the guys noone else wants

It’s because we don’t want to give guys chances and other teams do. 

2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I’d rather see Holyfield play now while there is no injuries before we signed some guy off the street they are still FAs for a reason. 
 

But we have 4 RBs on roster now don’t see us signing or bringing anyone up 

2 decent ones and 2 we know zip about.Lose one of the 2 and you have ONE decent one and still 2 you know nothing about in a game situation.FOr a CHEAP price adding a back with experience,why take that risk???

Um we brought in Freeman for a work out,so apparently they feel like I do,But Howie probably didnt want to spend what Freeman wanted.Fact is we were LOOKING

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

2 decent ones and 2 we know zip about.Lose one of the 2 and you have ONE decent one and still 2 you know nothing about in a game situation.FOr a CHEAP price,why take that risk???

Because you can’t know what you have until someone plays.... the guys we know nothing about could be vastly better then Miller. Could you image if we kept Mosert around??? Could have had him and Sanders together.

But we knew nothing about him let him walk and he was killing it for SF

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Um we brought in Freeman for a work out,so apparently they feel like I do,But Howie probably didnt want to spend what Freeman wanted.Fact is we were LOOKING

Fact is Eagles always look at guys and do there homework if we wanted Freeman or wanted another RB we would have signed him 

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Because you can’t know what you have until someone plays.... the guys we know nothing about could be vastly better then Miller. Could you image if we kept Mosert around??? Could have had him and Sanders together.

But we knew nothing about him let him walk and he was killing it for SF

Then why did we bring Freeman in for a workout?

Fact is Freeman walked out without a deal 

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Fact is Freeman walked out with a deal 

yep AFTER we let him walk away then Gnats signed him.Doesnt alter the fact we were looking

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

yep AFTER we let him walk away and the Gnats signed him.Doesnt alter the fact we were looking

Yea it does if we wanted him or someone else we would have signed him... All we were doing was put homework on a guy clearly didn’t want him or he would have been signed so doesn’t sound like we were concerned 

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Yea it does if we wanted him or someone else we would have signed him... All we were doing was put homework on a guy clearly didn’t want him or he would have been signed so doesn’t sound like we were concerned 

Not necessarily.You know how Cheap Howie is lol

BTW who were our RB's when we let Mostert walk?

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Not necessarily.You know how Cheap Howie is lol

You mean the guy who signed Malik to 10m Hargrave to 10m, Djax to 10m, Alshon got paid, Wentz got paid, Cox paid, Graham paid

we sign and pay the guys we want 

6 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

You mean the guy who signed Malik to 10m Hargrave to 10m, Djax to 10m, Alshon got paid, Wentz got paid, Cox paid, Graham paid

we sign and pay the guys we want 

We take care of our players.I'm talking about FA's(season FA's)a cap issue next year,so Howie is watching his pennies.The fact we brought him in(Freeman) tells me they are thinking like I am.say whatever you want,the fact is we had him in here.Thatdoesn't sound like a confienence vote for Holyfield does it?

This comes back to what I said before,We are reactive and not PROactive

So you wouldn't spend a mil on Miller? You'd rather trust an inexperience UDFA if Sanders or Scott goes down? Not me

https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2020/9/22/21450708/nfl-week-3-odds-eagles-bengals-game-line-philadelphia-cincinnati-joe-burrow-carson-wentz-football-qb Found this after my posts.apparently they agree with me.I think will be a really good hard fought game between 2 teams that desperately need a win

10 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

But why do we expect Wentz to turn it around? Actually no that statement is incorrect. We know he can turn it around because he has before. But we also know that these bad patches are a fairly regular thing. He's had them throughout his career. At this point the one summary we can make is that Wentz is a very up and down QB.

What was the down part in 2017 .. when we can clearly say he had the surrounding players in a mainly 3 WR system ... putting up 58 vs Denver who was ranked as a top defense at the time.  I will point out Brees stunk the other night.    Not all QBs play good for 4 quarters of 16 games in a season.    The issue I have  big picture.  We know the QB was able to light it up and play at MVP level when things around him functioned well.  Zach Ertz was the only skill player that was selected to the pro bow.    74 catches 824 yards and 8 TDs..... But he needed 113 targets in 14 games to get there.  8 targets per game, this was prior to Kittle, and really nobody else healthy that was good other than Gronk and Kelce.   He was playing in a 3 WR set for the most part as the lone TE.    

I don't need Michael Thomas, Adams ... Hill Watkins and Kelce ... etc.   But a nice combo of Alshon / Torrey Smith level of good functional NFL type WRs that mesh together nicely would help.  3 WRs at a time for the majority.   And some good RBs for Doug to allow to keep running the ball enough     I think Wentz would thrive there.  16 perfect games... nope.... good enough to keep us competing for a title though.   

In all honesty... this is what I thought separates Wentz from Foles... he has better consistency.   If you take an honest look at the games from 2017 and 2018 ... you see Foles wih 4 good games... NYG, Minn, NE and Houston... the rest not so great at all.  More bad than good.   For Wentz, it's more good than bad.  We only played 2 games so far, i'm not worried about him except for staying healthy.  The offense in general, I am worried about as far as game plans, play calling, route running, QB depth on the drop backs,  sticking to the run when its working...etc.      

There was a great video showing Wentz missing Sanders on the crossing pattern.  Take a look again, tell me if you think he has a better chance making that throw if he drops back 2 more steps, the rush comes further outside, and then he steps up to make the throw instead of basically being surrounded (regardless of pressure, he is still surrounded in a tighter space. and having to throw around Donald would be made much easier if he were a little further back.    Big thing to me... his drop backs do not seem in sink with the timing of the routes.  His skills are not that of Brady and Brees with quick drops and quick throws, and our WRs either don't seem to have that quick twitch ability to get open, or the routes are not designed that way.  This to me is the " offense being out of sink"  and the bigger issue.   The players and the play calls don't match that of the QB like they did in 2017.  Logic says he shouldn't play as well due to that.  How Doug went out of his way to cater to Foles, he should realize the same for Wentz.  Old school WCO is not the way to go with Wentz.