4 minutes ago, stine said:

  Not really fair to compare these two. You need to account for the person throwing him the ball. You do know what AJ Brown has done the past two years to look at vs. Burks.....

Considering the Titans rely more on the run is why i said Brown will need to have a better season statistically.

Not really against the trade it just seems to be a wash

Ham, I have to say I agree with you. Burks was not a sure thing and at 18 we need a sure thing. He may work out to be the steal of the draft, but no one can say for sure. Trading for Brown we get a proven top notch WR 23 years old. Who cares about the money? We are not paying him. We now will be able to find out if Hurts can do what it takes or not. I hope he can. I am not nearly as positive as you have been. But the Eagles will have enough ammo to move up next year and grab a QB if they have to.

   I did not want a WR in the 1st round as I felt the Defense needed more attention. But now that they have done it, I am OK with Brown over Burks.

 

 

1 minute ago, Asg 15 said:

Considering the Titans rely more on the run is why i said Brown will need to have a better season statistically.

Not really against the trade it just seems to be a wash

  You may be right. I do feel the Eagles did well waiting until the last minute to make the deal though. I am sure Titans were asking much more before the draft. Had they waited until after the draft, they may have not gotten more than a 2nd..... But no guaranty the Eagles get him then...

7 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I'm excited that brown makes the pro bowl,he's a shoe in

Would Burks have? I’m a fan of Hurts. But I feel the need to point out the difference in getting a known commodity than a draft pick. For one, I feel we are getting more proven quality consistent routes with Brown over Burks. That consistency should be good for the young QB. Getting a proven commodity over a question mark puts the spotlight on what the QB is doing more. With Burks the QB could be struggling and you could say Burks is just a bust. If Brown and Smitty stay healthy Hurts doesn’t have the massive excuse of his passing not being great because of a poor WR room anymore. Brown brings knowledge and experience to make Quez and Smitty better. Burks from what I gather just kind of wings it with athleticism. What about Siri? Think this puts legit pressure on him not having the excuses also. We got a guy that’s young and can be here a long time. We should all like that. He brings legitimacy to judge our QB and HC.

7 hours ago, joemas6 said:

The next QB comes cheap, so we should be ok for a while.   I'm looking for 2 good prospects tomorrow and possible trades with Dillard and Sanders. 

Based on basically nothing

The Giants may have screwed up Howies plans. By taking the DE Thibodeaux before Neal, they probably screwed the Eagles. I am sure HR wanted to trade up and grab this dude at 6. Had the Giants drafted the OT first, Eagles would have ended up with that DE and possible AJ Brown last night. Not that they did poorly, but things could have looked much different had the Giants switched those picks.....

1 hour ago, Asg 15 said:

Considering the Titans rely more on the run is why i said Brown will need to have a better season statistically.

Not really against the trade it just seems to be a wash

Well, we relied on the run a bit last year also.... Anyway, I think this allows the management to give Hurts a proper evaluation going into next year's draft. Hopefully he does a 180 and proves us all wrong (except Ham)

At the end of the day unless Hurts can turn this team into a pass first team and win throwing that ball 35+ times a game consistently he won’t be the long term answer at QB.

And yes ham you don’t have to win that way yes you can win as a run first team though much harder and more unlikely in todays game…

But none of that has anything to do with why Hurts will have to make this team a pass first team and win with his arm the bottom line is that the type of team Lurie wants. Lurie isn’t going to be ok with this team being a run heavy team 

14 minutes ago, stine said:

Well, we relied on the run a bit last year also.... Anyway, I think this allows the management to give Hurts a proper evaluation going into next year's draft. Hopefully he does a 180 and proves us all wrong (except Ham)

Yeah but that was Hurts doing the running 🙄

Like I said last night, our DL coach recruited Davis out of high school to Georgia. Could be certain HO peeps are opening their minds and listening.

As for Brown, he's a friend of Hurts, they've been working out together. Fans would have had no argument if we'd signed a more expensive player in FA, curious.

So we have 51 and 83 today

1 minute ago, mjkline1958 said:

So we have 51 and 83 today

Thanx. I thought we only had 1 pick

Great clip on tv w/ Kelce celebrating the Brown acquisition

17 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Great clip on tv w/ Kelce celebrating the Brown acquisition

This one?

Jason Kelce excited about A.J BROWN trade to eagles #philadelphiaeagles #AJBROWN - YouTube

Not nearly as great as the SB speech. Bought the "Nobody likes us and we don't give a damn" t-shirt

9 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Nah... I would say neither due to their QBs...but we got  dude that was probowl...at a position that has some real studs in the current league...he did it playing in a run heavy offense... and the QB is meh?   He is going into year 4. He is cheap this year...the extension given was with the Eagles being in control... where guys got paid huge $$ this year, and you can bet that money is going up big time...he got locked in from 2023-26...at 2022 prices.  

Big picture,  no excuse.  With Burks or any other rookie, there would be " Hurts has a rookie WR that doesn't have the experience "   not an excuse now.   

That really is the biggest thing if you step back away from just looking at college players...and look at what matters.   The big question is our QB.  That needs to get out of limbo into a definitive direction.  This move cements that.  From there the organization can plan it one way or another.

Welp,like I said you like this deal I don't. Nothing I can do to change it anyhow. He is an improvement over Reagor,but Burks would be also I understand your arguments,but just "appears" that we made a move just to make a move for Hurts. Wonder how Hurts will feel when he's gone? It could work out,timer will tell,but just because YOU like the deal doesn't change my mind. I didn;t hear the rookie excuse when we got Smith,so once again you are reaching t justify this deal,which is fine,but my opinion differs,and as I said I'm not going to change it. They di what tyhey thought was right,that's their job,not to cater to fans,so I hope this works out,just was an expensive upgarde IN MY OPINION

9 hours ago, joemas6 said:

I like the idea of DB and LB tomorrow...  those guys are usually your best ST players ...which absolutely helps your team.

So let's look at the 2 big moves... first draft pick and the big FA signing.   Does that give off a little 3-4 flavor??? Davis as a NT and Riddick as the pass rusher OLB?

I would prefer a S over a LB,It's possible we draft(or locate) a hybrid that can do both. That S/LB position seems to becoming "murky" as to what the assignments are. Not cut a dried like it used to be. That position is going through changes much like the TE spot did

Did pick up a few things last night about more teams going w/ 3 S sets

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Drafted Reagor or JJaW you’d rather

I didn't pick them.nor did I like the picks and I have made that plain as day.Smith and JJ would be a force to reckon with no??? Did I miss on JJ??? No,but you missed on Reagor. Picks matter(as we are all well aware) Did the vikes complain about JJ being a rookie? Nope. Did any fan complain that Smith was a rookie? Nope. Picks matter and if you can't make then,you have to pay for FA's(which we DID). So IMO you get FA's because you failed to draft and develop the correct players. This deal may grow on me and maybe I eat crow later,but we shall see. As I said to Joe,it improved the position(which is the idea) it remains to be seen if was worth the cost. Maybe it will be,that's now up to Hurts

2 hours ago, Asg 15 said:

My gripe with the trade is is they could have had a physically similar WR for less money and kept the 3rd round pick.

Brown will have to significantly outperform Burks for this to be a good move.

That'is the point I was trying to convey. He's Hurts buddy and I hope that pays off for us.it might,it might not. As joe said,now there are no excuses for Hurts to perform. he has multiple targets now and if I see the 1 read and run,it's not going to be worth this deal if he can't read a defense. it's a DONE DEAL,onward we go,for better or worse

2 hours ago, stine said:

We know AJ Brown will be a stud.

No,we DON't know this. Hurts is not a passing QB,unless he seriously changed. Many times a player "stinks up the joint" making a team transfer. At least Hurts has worked with Brown and I hope he doesn't become the "one read" that leaves Smith out of play. We shall see how Hurts performs. He now needs to pass the ball better for this to be a good deal. As Joe said,if he can't we have our QB decision next year,so on that point I can understand this move. It has forced Hurts to play his position and it will become obvious if we are going to pay him big buck or find his replacement. ON to day 2 lol

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I think everybody here grasps that your…..what fifth WR off the board will be better than a proven All Pro…..in your mind. But I believe Rosie’s thoughts were we need one of those top guys ….that we would have needed to trade up for or trade for the proven commodity instead of Rosie’s gut.

In my mind Burks was the last of the top guys. team fits matter. The fact he went at 18 doesn't mean he isn't good(aka why did Tenn lose him and take Burks,if they though Burks stinks?). Deebo went later right? And teams had more pressing needs than WR,which I thought was an opportune time for us to grab one and giving up a 5th or 2 to move up for one would have gotten a better pick yet. So it's all how you feel,and obviously I like to bring my guys along from within and keep the pipeline going to where there was no need to spend at the position. Smith as a rookie only got 100 yards less then Brown at his best and you feel paying 25 million a year is worth that 100 yards and while there is no proof a drafted rookie would put up 900+ also,you have to understand we have Hurts. It's time to put up or shut up and there is no proof either that Hurts will get both WR's 900+ yards. I just wanted to see Hurts be much improved before spending money at the position. That's the only difference between us. But I'm not changing anything,so onward we go

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Would Burks have

I have no idea,neither do you,but he saves me 100 million dollars to find out if Hurts is my QB going forward. will Brown be a pro bowler? Your argument goes both ways

2 hours ago, stine said:

The Giants may have screwed up Howies plans. By taking the DE Thibodeaux before Neal, they probably screwed the Eagles. I am sure HR wanted to trade up and grab this dude at 6. Had the Giants drafted the OT first, Eagles would have ended up with that DE and possible AJ Brown last night. Not that they did poorly, but things could have looked much different had the Giants switched those picks.....

LOL yeah I posted that. I said they need to take Thib at 5 because we had pick 6 and take neal at 7. I asked if they were smart enough to do this since technically neal was the choice at 5. But knowing we didn't need a T at 6,they made the smart decision and took Thib off our board and got Neal at 7. You can look back to see where I said this exact thing. Not so dumb as some make me out to be LOL 

Seems the fans who didn't like spending the money on Brown would have been very happy if we'd spent more money on the older FA WR's, curious.